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iPhone Air iPhone Air is the best product Tim has ever launched
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Battery matches my 16 pro which is already great. So I’m down with the Air.
Ähmmm. Did you have a stroke? 😉
How can the have the audacity to call it air, with a camera bump that makes it thicker than the normal iPhone?
And we already had a real iPhone Air with the Version 6 in 2014.
Of course they can’t invent the wheel new in every year but Jesus!! They are out of ideas and messing up all the OS with that stupid glass design.
Have you seen the new Huawei Pad? Thats Innovation!
How can the have the audacity to call it air, with a camera bump that makes it thicker than the normal iPhone?
And we already had a real iPhone Air with the Version 6 in 2014.
Of course they can’t invent the wheel new in every year but Jesus!! They are out of ideas and messing up all the OS with that stupid glass design.
Have you seen the new Huawei Pad? Thats Innovation!
Let me guess you purchased a Pro. Anything to make you feel better about your purchase. It’s not going to flop, it’s only going to get better. That’s how tech works. But enjoy your aluminum dated looking iPhone.
It failed because the screen was to small. People don’t want small screens like that.
Agree 100%
About time we tuned down the bloatware and got back to elegant design. First Apple product since X that I actually am looking toward to as opposed to just buying as a needed replacement.
I do. But I’m well aware I’m in the minority on that.
The iPhone 12 mini and 13 mini have the same resolution as the iPhone X, XS, and 11 Pro: 375x812@3x, so they won't have been discontinued because of that. Apps are written to intelligently fit the available screen real estate thanks to size classes (I'm an app developer), so there's very little effort involved. They will have been discontinued for lack of sales.
The iPhone Air could be one Tim Cooks best products, but personally for me its the 2018 iPad Pro, M1 Macbook Air and maybe the Apple Watch Ultra.
Those are great products, but I’m rather partial to Apple Polishing Cloth. I’ve never had one fail.
Plus I like that they didn’t release a new model that makes the original look dated.
I think it’s very possible. Believe it or not they left big margin of improvement with battery life. As far as I know they did not use silicon carbon battery yet, but the technology is already there. And this phone already outperforming 16Pro on CPU and GPU intensive tasks (geekbench) is insane. Slim first gen macbooks of the past had nowhere near this relative performance. Only a matter of time till they close the gap some more with cameras as well, or more minor things like speaker performance, charging speed and displayport support.
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Nope. minis used the X/XS/11 pro size assets so nothing needed to change for the form factor
You know... One thing I greatly appreciate about MR is the oftentimes very helpful and thoughtful suggestions and ideas folks contribute... And then there are the trolls and the hype machines... If the OP is truly excited about the Air.. more power to him/her. Personally, I just see it as a thinner iPhone... I know he/she was talking about the phone and not the Mac but when Apple Silicon came out... I felt THAT was a leap forward.
You know what, before seeing it in person i would definitely say it is the prettiest iPhone Tim Cook has ever released
Very well summarized and agree with you 100%.
There are so many "keyboard reviewers" that have never touched the new Air and will spout off anything they see or hear on social media.
Don't worry about their nonsensical comments - not worth it.
It’s all fun and games until a butterfly keyboard comes back.
I don’t disagree with your argument OP, but Steve Jobs lived in a different time when Apple could attract the very best talent. Today is not that day. Execution is much more important than ideas and I fear the former is becoming more and more unattainable as Apple continues to spread itself thin.
I don’t disagree with your argument OP, but Steve Jobs lived in a different time when Apple could attract the very best talent. Today is not that day. Execution is much more important than ideas and I fear the former is becoming more and more unattainable as Apple continues to spread itself thin.
People who point out that the Air isn't the perfect device you make it out to me are not haters. They are rational thinkers.
The Air isn't for me, but I'm very glad it exits. Slab iPhones have been too heavy and thick for too long.
I think the Air 1.0 is a very flawed device, but I do think it has a ton of potential in future editions.
I believe in due time it will replace the vanilla iPhone entirely.
I hate the iPhone Air because I want to love it but the single camera, single speaker, and USB2 transfer speed is keeping me in the Pro camp. If the battery is already 16 Pro level, I’d take 15 Pro battery life in the Air in exchange for an ultra wide lens and a second speaker (assuming whatever space those components take up somehow impacts battery size). And price it starting at $1,009 to cover the additional parts and USB3 transfer speed and I’d be all over the Air and stand shoulder to shoulder with all the Air defenders against the unwashed haters pre-ordering 17’s and 17 Pro’s. I’m looking forward to how the Air evolves the next few years and could definitely see an Air in my future with just a few tweaks to the current offering.
I'd live with the single speaker and transfer speeds, if it just had an ultra wide lens.
I loved my 12” mb. Used it for years. If they ever re-introduce it, I’ll buy it day 1. I even used Lightroom cc on it, and it worked fine.
Remember, not all of us are Pro users.
For those that prefer the basic 17 and Air - they are not your pro types.
I don't mind spending $1099 on my Air if it gives me a slimmer profile and lighter weight as I am a casual user with very light uses.
I get that. I don’t even consider myself a Pro. But are you saying only Pro users want stereo speakers? Of the three dealbreakers for me (ultra wide, stereo speakers, and USB3 transfer speed), I’d say only the transfer speed is a decidedly Pro feature. The other two have been staples of iPhone for years. Even the non-Pro 17 has stereo speakers and an ultra wide.
I would probably be ok with the Air missing Pro features, but not also missing base model features as well, considering its price and position in the product hierarchy. I think that weird set of compromises Apple made are partly fueling the strong reactions.
I think it’s the best looking iPhone since the X and as I said with a few even non-pro tweaks, I would be all over the Air as my next iPhone.
P.S. I’m also just a bit salty that I need to buy a Pro but I get stuck with aluminum… I’m willing to admit I have a wee bit of polished titanium envy.
Thanks for the photos. All reporting I've seen before has claimed that virtually all the electronics were moved into the camera bump, but these photos show that most of the electronics are just BELOW the camera bump, with the exception of the A19 chip. The rest of the camera bump of course contains camera parts.
I am saying that I am a basic user and only need the 17 base or Air.I get that. I don’t even consider myself a Pro. But are you saying only Pro users want stereo speakers? Of the three dealbreakers for me (ultra wide, stereo speakers, and USB3 transfer speed), I’d say only the transfer speed is a decidedly Pro feature. The other two have been staples of iPhone for years. Even the non-Pro 17 has stereo speakers and an ultra wide.
I would probably be ok with the Air missing Pro features, but not also missing base model features as well, considering its price and position in the product hierarchy. I think that weird set of compromises Apple made are partly fueling the strong reactions.
I think it’s the best looking iPhone since the X and as I said with a few even non-pro tweaks, I would be all over the Air as my next iPhone.
P.S. I’m also just a bit salty that I need to buy a Pro but I get stuck with aluminum… I’m willing to admit I have a wee bit of polished titanium envy.
I don't need USB3 transfer speeds as I don't transfer stuff thru the USB port - only to charge.
Other Pro / PM users are saying stereo speakers, battery and 3 camera lenses are the only way.
I don't use any of the above items - my iPhone is tertiary device, after my home/work devices.
I'd rather pay the extra cost for the slim and diet weight of the Air.
A19 vs A19 Pro does not matter to me as I am a light casual user.
If I need more horsepower, I would select my Mac Studio Max or M4 iMac which I prefer over the tiny iPhone displays that are actually annoying to me.
I would disagree. As another poster pointed out Cook's biggest contribution, so far, was moving Apple away from Intel and developing their own chips inside. Gives Apple more autonomy over their own products and allows them to release Mac's on their own timetable. Hard to understate the importance of that.