Anyone who objects to side loading, means they don’t trust Apple’s software. Apps shouldn’t be able to escape their environment and wander around the OS and other apps storage.
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iPhone App Sideloading Coming to Users in the EU in First Half of 2024
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" which will mean developers won't need to pay Apple's 15 to 30 percent fees."
Which also means the developer will have to create and maintain their own store or will have to pay a third party store to carry their apps (lots of Mac app developers use third party stores and/or payment providers) Then there’s the expense of advertising and promoting their apps. I wonder if they’ve even thought of those costs? Maybe that 15-30% isn’t as onerous as claimed.
My prediction is that large developers will take advantage of this while small developers will stick with the App Store.
And of course Apple reserves the right to deny installation of apps that don’t comply with its security policies and use of APIs. Will Apple be forced to allow users to bypass like they can on macOS? There are numerous cases of apps screwing over macOS when they are not signed yet the user bypasses verification and install them anyway.
Which also means the developer will have to create and maintain their own store or will have to pay a third party store to carry their apps (lots of Mac app developers use third party stores and/or payment providers) Then there’s the expense of advertising and promoting their apps. I wonder if they’ve even thought of those costs? Maybe that 15-30% isn’t as onerous as claimed.
My prediction is that large developers will take advantage of this while small developers will stick with the App Store.
And of course Apple reserves the right to deny installation of apps that don’t comply with its security policies and use of APIs. Will Apple be forced to allow users to bypass like they can on macOS? There are numerous cases of apps screwing over macOS when they are not signed yet the user bypasses verification and install them anyway.
I'm not supporting EU interference in this case. But hey, if I can finally watch youtube without ads, that's a win 
If not, the moment EU forces Apple to allow other web engines, the first thing to install will be youtube addblocker.
If not, the moment EU forces Apple to allow other web engines, the first thing to install will be youtube addblocker.
✅ I understand that by accepting the option to use third party App Stores, I rescind all free access to Apple technical support.
Hopefully with side loading someone will create an app that will allow removal of the flashlight and camera on the lockscreen.
Lol what relevant game is only available on Epic? Everyone eventually gets back on steam because it provides a superior experience for users even if more expensive than Epic store.
This is all Apple needs to do. Have an AppStore that is better than the others.
Because it’s a fine, not a slap on the wrist.
And up to 20% of corporate revenue. The reason this is the target is to prevent tricky accounting.
iOS, iPad os etc have zero revenue.
Guess it's better when you're "taking back control", right?
Serious vendors will likely post their apps on both channels, like Microsoft going: "buy this app for $10 on the AppStore, or for $7 on our store. Same app, same hash". Then, to each his own.
I mean of all things, that literally would be. Richard Stallman has been warning us about this for forty years. Whoever has root owns the device. Way too many consumer devices have prevented root access for way too long.
I would support a policy where vendors are required to unlock devices once they don't get updates anymore.
They've definitely talked about it. And then Tim saw that $22 billion number.
Apple pushes back against all governments including the US, it's all part of being a multi trillion dollar multinational company.
It's been Apple's obstinance that has caused some of this legislation. I agree governments tend to be a bit ham-fisted when they start sticking their nose into things. Apple could have headed some of that off before it got to this point.
To the people saying "You don't have to use sideloading"....
We may be forced to use it... if some devs decide to pull out of the Appstore and go "sideload only" to skirt Apple's rules, then we have to open up our phones to risk if we wish to continue using that app/service.
We may be forced to use it... if some devs decide to pull out of the Appstore and go "sideload only" to skirt Apple's rules, then we have to open up our phones to risk if we wish to continue using that app/service.
Side loading is not root. They still won't be able to. This is just about who gets paid and how to allow the installation. Apple is still in complete control.
This is the conundrum. It's the same logic that keeps Safari alive. Still not sure how much risk it will be, it's more about Apple's loss of distribution control. Apple still has a completely locked down OS.
Seriously?
Governments have the ability to imprison you. Government cannot be escaped if you live within their jurisdiction.
I get to freely choose my business assocations. Not so with Government. Even in a so-called democracy, your rights are determined by whatever the majority feels should or should not be your rights.
Your naiveté that "elected" governments have your best interests at heart is cute.
This is why I don't like to see people mindlessly bashing capitalism. We've seen the alternative, it's even worse.
There has to be push and pull between government and corporations. Neither one can be allowed to run totally wild.
Nobody is forcing you to do anything. I say, let there be some competition. Apple can improve the App Store and the pricing to make it more lucrative for publishers to be on the App Store.
Stupid question, but what about the PlayStation store or Xbox store? Can EA make their own store on the consoles or is it only about the big 3?
I can just see it... they'll roll like the DYI repair kit... you'll need an app unlock kit which needs to be shipped to you in a large, Pelican case (only to EU addresses, with a 1900Eur deposit until they get it back)... then you can side load the apps you need and return the unlock gear.
Worked for right to repair compliance so let's try it for Right to side load.
Worked for right to repair compliance so let's try it for Right to side load.
Lets list the facts:
- iOS is based on MacOS and shares a lot of code. Steve Jobs told us this at the first iPhone reveal.
- Macs can run iOS applications lending credibility to this statement.
- Since its inception the Mac has been an open platform. People use them for businesses across the world.
- Less tha 10% of Android users sideload, even when alternative app portals exist.
- iOS and Android are about as secure as each other. Malware has found its way onto the App Store in the past.
So either Apple is talking nonsense on opening up the platform for sideloading or its doing its usual Cook-era scaremongering to maintain its bottom line. Apple has never been more control-freak than it is now, even taking the steps to solder RAM directly onto their processors (which isn't necessarily faster) and charging a fortune to upgrade so the user cannot do so themselves.
- iOS is based on MacOS and shares a lot of code. Steve Jobs told us this at the first iPhone reveal.
- Macs can run iOS applications lending credibility to this statement.
- Since its inception the Mac has been an open platform. People use them for businesses across the world.
- Less tha 10% of Android users sideload, even when alternative app portals exist.
- iOS and Android are about as secure as each other. Malware has found its way onto the App Store in the past.
So either Apple is talking nonsense on opening up the platform for sideloading or its doing its usual Cook-era scaremongering to maintain its bottom line. Apple has never been more control-freak than it is now, even taking the steps to solder RAM directly onto their processors (which isn't necessarily faster) and charging a fortune to upgrade so the user cannot do so themselves.
Okey… and in your fantasy world how does you go to court over something that isn’t a regulation or law yet?
The regulation will only apply to the largest so called "gatekeepers".
Digital Markets Act - Wikipedia
Gaming consoles are exempt so far.
Or if we are lucky we get proper iOS games on Steam that is actually good and groundbreaking as steam takes over the mobile game market 🤔