I hate to say this, but such a monumentally preposterous decision to not allow sideloading worldwide and making this EU only may be my final straw to sell all my Apple products and move back to Android.
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iPhone App Sideloading Coming to Users in the EU in First Half of 2024
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“You don’t have to use it if you don’t want to”
Yeah, until a few of my apps decide to pull from the App Store to save money and then I’m forced to either go find them and keep them updated manually or choose another app/service instead.
Yeah, until a few of my apps decide to pull from the App Store to save money and then I’m forced to either go find them and keep them updated manually or choose another app/service instead.
They might try that, but it's not going to buy them any goodwill with EU Commission, that's for sure. This regulation has teeth, and the Commission has means to enforce it. Of course, Apple can (and likely will) challenge it in courts.
You like your walled garden? Great, I do to too!
Now there's a door, so we're no longer locked in. You can still relax by the koi pond if you'd like.
Now there's a door, so we're no longer locked in. You can still relax by the koi pond if you'd like.
I don't know how it works where you live, but we vote for governments to make laws for the benefit of society. Citizens and businesses are subject to the laws, not above the law. You are surely not suggesting big businesses should be able to dictate the law.
That's it. You don't, because you will lose. It's the real world. They have nothing on Apple, so they simply create a retarded law in area they shouldn't be regulating at all unless there's a breach of anti-monopoly laws. And if there is a breach - welcome to court and gl.
Keep up the good job defending this, tomorrow they will make you drink Cola instead of water. Cause you know, reasons.
Standard Oil controlled 94% of US oil distribution, refinement… and most importantly, R&D. Standard Oil also had growing competition that copied their vertical integration method and were doing better than it and growing at a rapid pace. And the breakup of Standard Oil was terrible, and made a retired man - a man that wasn’t working - the richest man in human history. It really set the stage of our present day situation, and a better option would’ve been to give it the same deal AT&T got in 1913 to be under price control and regulations from the US government. But.. like the breakup of AT&T some 50 years later… it was about the almighty dollar and making more of it, and siphoning more of it from the people.
EU let's you own the device without the company tell you that "you are holding it wrong". Same reason those stickers that are on computers on top of screw holes saying you void warranty if removed does not apply in the EU.
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Then Apple will have to lower the fees or change the policies around the App Store to win developers back, which is the intention of this bill, no more monopoly.
*wink wink expert users* It's to pirate apps, nothing else.
And it's the reason Play Market developer's revenues are sh*t compared to Appstore and Play Market revenues in total are lower than Appstore's, despite the higher number of devices sold.
The thing is you already have this code, and it have existed for a few years. It’s just a little more cumbersome to do and the need get hold of a certificate to do it
Apple doesn't need to win anyone back, devs are all in for closed ecosystem and higher sales.
That's definitely not what I was saying. North Korea already does that. I meant the opposite way. The people making and using an open system without any government or corporate interference. But we are already trying that with things like FreePhone and the market seems to indicate that they don't care enough. But even FreePhone is stuck using Android which is controlled by Google, and Google has cared less and less about the Android Open Source Project as time has gone on. And the big corporations still make the hardware.
If you're willing to do business and trust a developer because they're distributed via the App Store why would you not also trust the same developer if their app is distributed outside of the App Store?
iOS is heavily sandboxed (much moreso than macOS) and there's no reason sideloaded apps wouldn't have to abide by the same permissions structure that App Store-distributed apps do. Apps would still need to ask permission to access files, record audio, access the camera, track your location, etc. All of that is a function of iOS, not the App Store. This already happens on macOS with all apps regardless of where they were installed from. So I'm genuinely curious as to what risk you think you're exposing your device to if you're using an app from a known, reputable developer?
lol why? Are the developers forcing you? Use something else.
Why is it that people fear that developers will go away? What happened to voting with your wallet? Or is it only the case when developers don’t have a choice?
I thought you could either think this is a good thing, or don't care about it at all. But apparently there are people that think this is somehow a bad change for the consumer. Okay.
I personally don't absolutely need side-loading, but I'm sure I'll use it for some alternative YouTube frontend and maybe browsers with actually different engines (not sure major browsers will put effort into porting to iOS though as long as it's EU only).
I personally don't absolutely need side-loading, but I'm sure I'll use it for some alternative YouTube frontend and maybe browsers with actually different engines (not sure major browsers will put effort into porting to iOS though as long as it's EU only).
This is definitely Apple's goal, and a lot of people seem to be missing the point that this is literally all this is about. It's just about money.
One of my friend is studying computer science. He takes an iPad pro 12.9 for notes and a MBA for programming. One of his wish is to use Java, Python, Git on his ipad, so he can offload 50% weight from his bag.
So vote with your wallet and pick a different app or service. There will be plenty of developers who stay on the App Store because it will be the first choice for most iOS users to install apps and the potential loss of customers would be more impactful than saving a few percentage points of revenue.
I am Belgian. I completely disagree with you. So there we are: it's a tie!
(I realize both our opinions are completely irrelevant)
No one will force you to venture outside of the App Store. Don't want to sideload? Just don't do it. Simple as that. But if other people think otherwise, let them.
It's always all about money. Money is literally the only thing that counts in this entire argument. But that goes both ways.
Payments processing is not related to sideloading.
But those games will theoretically be able to run modified clients with cheats.