I really don't understand what fundamental right you are talking about. The fundamental right for Apple to decide what software you can run on your device?
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iPhone App Sideloading Coming to Users in the EU in First Half of 2024
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I believe it’s actually both about control and money, but if Apple is going to lose control, then at least retain the billing portion.
And one more thing - you know what one of my local banks did in response to the rising rate of android scams? They changed their banking app to not work on android phones if it detected the presence of sideloaded apps.
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I wonder if Apple might be able to get away with something similar. Say disable certain features like Apple Pay or iCloud if it detects the presence of sideloaded apps on an iOS device. All in the name of security.
So it may well be that while sideloading is technically possible, it becomes so onerous and inconvenient that nobody ends up using it?
Just look at the companies complaining:
Spotify,
Meta,
Tencent,
Epic Games (Tencent),
ByteDance (Tencent),
Microsoft,
Google.
"nothing major", these are the biggest companies in the techworld.
My hope is that Apple will have the same feature to allow me to select ONLY app store apps. Just like on the Mac.
Guess what, yes, it's their right. You knew when you bought it. No one forced you to.
The fundamental right for me to let Apple decide what software is safe enough to run on my phone. Yes, I bought my iPhone for that right. Otherwise I would've bought an Android.
I believe it’s actually both about control and money, but if Apple is going to lose control, then at least retain the billing portion.
And one more thing - you know what one of my local banks did in response to the rising rate of android scams? They changed their banking app to not work on android phones if it detected the presence of sideloaded apps.
OCBC'S Anti-Malware Saves S$2M+ Post-Launch | OCBC
Discover how OCBC's anti-malware feature saved S$2M+ since launch. Preventing losses from 30+ customers. Get the details on OCBC success.www.ocbc.com
I wonder if Apple might be able to get away with something similar. Say disable certain features like Apple Pay or iCloud if it detects the presence of sideloaded apps on an iOS device. All in the name of security.
So it may well be that while sideloading is technically possible, it becomes so onerous and inconvenient that nobody ends up using it?
That's Android's SafetyNet. It's supposed to give the best of both worlds, allowing people essentially root but also denying them access if the developer decides they don't like that. Android is famous for banking scams and warez for a reason.
It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out. I would like to see Apple be a better steward of the App Store, but I also don't like governments forcing corporations to do specific things like this. We'll see.
Yes you can - but it is a pain in the ass, so I never came around installing UTM
The US Gov should take reciprocal actions against the EU.
Simplistic and shallow comment.
I don't care about the availability of side loading on its own.
What I DO CARE ABOUT is the continued over reach by governmental agencies. The free market should dictate what companies CHOOSE to create or allow on their products. We are the free market.
Apple just needs to sell sideloading as an annual $299 subscription fee ) Imagine the butthurt.
Oh noez cant pirate iphonez appz
Oh noez cant pirate iphonez appz
Looking forward to the day this is available in the US! It’s ridiculous they would geolock such a huge feature.
Apple is going to do everything possible to drag their feet in opening this up to the rest of the world and likely only do it under government mandate. It's hard for them to surrender that 30% cut of App Store fees/subscriptions....
Wonder if a VPN into the EU would be a viable workaround? Is Apple basing this 'restriction' based on phone's point of origin at purchase or when it's being used?
Wonder if a VPN into the EU would be a viable workaround? Is Apple basing this 'restriction' based on phone's point of origin at purchase or when it's being used?
Even with the cut Appstore is MILES more lucrative for devs than Google Play
A bit hard to have a free market with a duopoly, no?
This will be fine, as long as the "install" process is always something the user has to agree to and cannot be exploited to automatically install something "on the side".
No, actually it's not simple. Once alternative App Stores with lower commission (or zero commission if you set up your own) become possible I very much expect the developers of some popular apps to make their apps only available that way, meaning it's no longer possible to get all the best apps in the Apple App Store.
Only when it’s too big by some measure. For now only the current big three with some of their services.
It’s not a win. Functionality by government regulation rarely is.
Congratulations. You have learned how democracy works.
Also make it an extremely difficult process. If one wants sideloading, he has first to provide docs to prove his EU residence, then selfie with passport in one hand and paper with date in the other hand, then Apple rep books a call with you (maybe next week or the one after, Apple is busy you know) to confirm your identity on video. Then it's seven days data crunching and decision process, then you get your sideloading. If approved. Or documents are re-requested. )))
Butthurt to the moon
What happens is a first, tiny breach into Apple Cut system. The one Apple execs enjoy "while it lasts"
No but the main reason that say Fortnite (Epic) wants sideloading is so they can avoid the Apple tax.