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iPhone Coming to Verizon... Next Year?

my .02 cents

I for one believe this to be highly plausible.
Fact 1: Apple did approach VZW first

Fact 2: CDMA technology is relatively similiar sizing to GSM and could be easily (relatively) put in the current model

Fact 3: This is what Apple does, constant innovation, thats why everyone likes them and thats why they could release a CDMA model with a shelf life of 2 years. How long did the 1st gen iphone stay on shelves (b4 3G)?

Fact 4: Apple allowed subsidizing of the 3G model

Fact 5: VZW's new any device plan, i believe this to be apple's route of attack (say goodbye to subsidy, and hello to a 500+ vzw capable iphone), and this quells VZW gui talk

Fact 6: Alltell take over adds millions to make a 70+ million subscriber base for VZW

Speculation 1: 2 year exclusivity would be up or close, or you call it the iphoneV, claim it to be a new device and claim exclusivity clause null

Speculation 2: i'm no EE but if the radio technology is in place for LTE they may build that technology into the first CDMA offering. So they could do a rollout when those networks become active, giving them another year (or so) of shelf life, before reduxing and making a newer iphone

Speculation 3: With CDMA technology Sprint could open another revenue path for apple, and you know they like that.

Ultimately: I believe that I demonstrate a key demographic; people tied to verizon, for whatever reason, wanting an iphone.

Thanks
 
stupifiery said:
I for one believe this to be highly plausible.
Fact 1: Apple did approach VZW first

Fact 2: CDMA technology is relatively similiar sizing to GSM and could be easily (relatively) put in the current model

Fact 3: This is what Apple does, constant innovation, thats why everyone likes them and thats why they could release a CDMA model with a shelf life of 2 years. How long did the 1st gen iphone stay on shelves (b4 3G)?

Fact 4: Apple allowed subsidizing of the 3G model

Fact 5: VZW's new any device plan, i believe this to be apple's route of attack (say goodbye to subsidy, and hello to a 500+ vzw capable iphone), and this quells VZW gui talk

Fact 6: Alltell take over adds millions to make a 70+ million subscriber base for VZW

Speculation 1: 2 year exclusivity would be up or close, or you call it the iphoneV, claim it to be a new device and claim exclusivity clause null

Speculation 2: i'm no EE but if the radio technology is in place for LTE they may build that technology into the first CDMA offering. So they could do a rollout when those networks become active, giving them another year (or so) of shelf life, before reduxing and making a newer iphone

Speculation 3: With CDMA technology Sprint could open another revenue path for apple, and you know they like that.

Ultimately: I believe that I demonstrate a key demographic; people tied to verizon, for whatever reason, wanting an iphone.

Thanks
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That would make sense if not for the exclusive contract with AT&T.
 
BenRoethig said:
That would make sense if not for the exclusive contract with AT&T.
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The rumored exclusive contract, that is. :)

With the success of the iPhone, you have to wonder why in the world Apple would continue to agree to miss out on 2/3 of the lucrative (and naive) US market. With the first, unknown, phone, it was almost understandable that they bent over to ATT.

Do they not think any other carrier would pay as high a subsidized price? Or agree to give up all their own app/tone sales?

If no other carrier would agree to their terms, then there's no need for, or meaning to, an exclusivity clause.
 
There is an exclusivity contract with Apple and A&T on the iPhone. The rumor is it's length, which no one really knows for a fact yet.

The other part that isn't known is the details of the contract. Since yes, Apple could release another phone that isn't an iPhone and put it on VZW/Sprint's network. I doubt it will happen since Apple has it's hands full with not only the iPhone, but the mini OS that it runs, the full OS that runs on their hardware, and the many other software titles they have to maintain.
 
iPhone Alternatives and Verizon

I'm one of those that really likes Verizon, AND I really like my Mac's. Assuming that the iPhone isn't going to show up on Verizon in the next week or two, what are good alternatives. It has to be a smart phone that works well with OS X.
 
when i talked to Verizon CSR he said there is no truth to this. if there is then its not public info nor does anyone in the Verizon company he knows confirm such a thing. I was talking to the CSR in regards to ETF because I wanted an iPhone. His response was the DARE is superior to any iPhone and that the iPhone will not last long... dear me.

ever since that phone call to Verizon they have called me 3 times to convince me the DARE is a superior cell and they even offered some discounts on plans and the cell to keep me. they are desperate. i am a 12 yr customer with Verizon so I don't know if its because of that... but the iPhone 3G is calling me and now that I found out i get a 25% FAN this is it
 
iMetalG5 said:
His response was the DARE is superior to any iPhone and that the iPhone will not last long... dear me.
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Verizon has the network, but the people in the stores are just either idiots or poor salespeople. I was looking at one of their iphone like devices and asked them what it can do. They said to play with it and come and get them when I was ready to buy it, and then walked away. ANother one didn't know what 3G was, saying "all that technical stuff just confuses her"...
 
if you want a good alternative on Verizon check out the Blackberry Storm comming out in a few weeks. I love Apple and the Iphone, but I can't stand to leave Verizon for ATT. This new Blackberry is gonna be really great from what I see, enough to maybe even pull over people with iphones not happy with ATT
 
nyisles84 said:
if you want a good alternative on Verizon check out the Blackberry Storm comming out in a few weeks. I love Apple and the Iphone, but I can't stand to leave Verizon for ATT. This new Blackberry is gonna be really great from what I see, enough to maybe even pull over people with iphones not happy with ATT
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interesting, I did not know what the STORM was but last night I bought my iPhone and Verizon called me on it asking me to re-consider my leave. They mentioned the STORM and offering it to me for $100 when it releases. but i did not give it any thought until nyisles mentioned it here. so i looked it up and it does look like an answer for VZW customers who want an iPhone. I admit VZW service is top notch and i have been with them since 1996!!!! but i've been wanting an iPhone for a long time so... we'll see how this 30 day period goes. i'm going to take it everywhere to test service.
 
Michael CM1 said:
A lot of speculation right now. Steve Jobs hasn't ruled it out, but they do have a contract with AT&T. They either have to buy out of that or let it expire in...2012 I think. I'm all for it since it would force AT&T to compete with others with their plans. $70 is a little rich for a phone plan if you don't use the data like crazy and can never come close to the 450 minutes. I'd love a $45 or so plan for 200 minutes w/rollover, 200 texts, and some limited data plan.
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Don't expect Verizon to become the cut-rate iPhone seller - if and when they ever get the iPhone. Their rates are generally the highest of the U.S. carriers because of their rep. Most of their data plans are $45 by themselves. And of course they don't do rollover.
 
yup my blackberry data plan for unlimited is 29.99. ATT and Verizons plans are just about identical to eachother.

Glad I coul help with enlighting you about the Storm. It will definetly be something I will pick up the day it comes out.
 
Iphone and Verizon

Tallest Skil said:
This isn't some idiot trying to put a "Verizon SIM" in the iPhone or someone ripping out the internals because they think they can put CDMA guts in, this is a new topic. If you had actually read the first post, you would see that this is a new rumor about an entirely different hardware base.

But yeah, it's not happening.
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It may or may not be true, but it is pretty bad that apple has locked themselves into one carrier to begin with. I am a loyal macintosh user that would buy an Iphone just as fast as taking another breath if it was on multiple networks. Alltel rocks in my area of the country and it is likely that it will be part of Verizon in 2009. So I hope the Iphone comes to verizon in 2009. It makes sense to me for apple to desire a larger Market share. Verizon will be the largest network when they aquire alltel. Wouldn't you want to have you phone available on the largest network? I agree that the CDMA is not a good choice for how to get Iphone to other carriers and I do not have the technical knowledge concerning the different types of networks. But from a marketing standpoint, I think Apple made a mistake with selecting just AT&T as their one and only carrier. I am not an AT&T fan, had a plan with cingular in the past and did not like my service at all. I believe their is a very large number of people in my situation that apple could make a ton of money on.
 
They're going to wait for LTE. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. LTE will be in place by 2010 - it may not be fully mature - but Apple will create devices for it just to get more marketshare.
 
y does everyone keep saying they are locked to one carrier?? its going to sell in 70 countries!! america is one of the few places using cdma, i doubt they would create a hole new phone just for a few hundred thousand people on verizon.
 
I hope it comes to Sprint, Verizon service in NC is terrible. I know many people with it and they have bars everywhere, but their calls are being dropped all the time. And its not the phone either, because I have the sprint version of their phone and have no problems with dropped calls. Plus my data rates are way cheaper, $10/month for unlimited 3G data.
 
cWeems said:
y does everyone keep saying they are locked to one carrier?? its going to sell in 70 countries!! america is one of the few places using cdma, i doubt they would create a hole new phone just for a few hundred thousand people on verizon.
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In the US Apple has an exclusive 5-year contract with ATT. People typically post from their point view, often forgetting sites like this have a world-wide audience. But, that's why. I think some other countries have 2 carriers for the iphone, but I think most have one.

Most phone manufacturers seem to do this for each eagerly-awaited model. I forget the name, but when Morotola came out with the very thin black (cheap quality feel) flip phone (not the razor..this was few years before that), it was only on Verizon. I had to wait more than a year before it was on Cingular...or vice-versa. I switch carriers from time to time depending on what phone is available.
 
kdarling said:
Sorry, but the five year myth is woefully out of date.

This past summer it was revealed that ATT and Apple renewed their original short exclusive contract for two more years... until 2010.
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correction noted, but the point of my post (why everyone says the iphone is locked to 1 carrier) still stands in most countries - people post thinking pretty much about the situation in their own country and although the contract term may be shorter (in the US), exclusivity is still in affect here.
 
Warbrain said:
They're going to wait for LTE. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. LTE will be in place by 2010 - it may not be fully mature - but Apple will create devices for it just to get more marketshare.
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I don't think there will be large scale deployment of LTE in 2010, also, the initial deployment will be data devices only (laptop, data cards), and cell phones supporting LTE need another 12 months.

Even if LTE gets commercialized in 2010, VZW will need to roll out LTE and EV-DO dual mode devices, since EV-DO will still be around for very, very long time. Remember when the analog AMPS dies after being replaced by the digital TDMA technology in North America in 1990? The answer is 2008.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Mobile_Phone_System
 
gh0001 said:
Even if LTE gets commercialized in 2010, VZW will need to roll out LTE and EV-DO dual mode devices, since EV-DO will still be around for very, very long time.
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For the same reason (lack of coverage at first), ATT will have to sell dual mode LTE and GSM devices.

LTE is a totally different technology from either CDMA or GSM, both on the device and in the backend systems.
 
Verizon plus iPhone would make Apple ridiculous amounts of money. I switched and I miss the coverage a lot.

Every person I know who doesn't have an iPhone cites AT&T's coverage as the main reason they don't have one.
 
zachplaysguitar said:
Verizon plus iPhone would make Apple ridiculous amounts of money. I switched and I miss the coverage a lot.

Every person I know who doesn't have an iPhone cites AT&T's coverage as the main reason they don't have one.
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when the iPhone first debuted I wanted one so bad but last year ATT service around my hometown was not there. But within a year they upped the service to everywhere it did not work (3G as well). So this prompted me to get the 3G. So far so good, i get service everwhere my old Verizon got service so, its been the same (so far).
 
iMetalG5 said:
when the iPhone first debuted I wanted one so bad but last year ATT service around my hometown was not there. But within a year they upped the service to everywhere it did not work (3G as well). So this prompted me to get the 3G. So far so good, i get service everwhere my old Verizon got service so, its been the same (so far).
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Same here. At home, I get excellent coverage (3G) which is better than my Verizon coverage was. However, at school I'm jealous of everyone who can actually make calls/send texts inside buildings. I'm only on edge with only service outside. :mad:
 
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