Not to mention the fact that there are other CDMA carriers around the world that would probably jump at an opportunity to carry the iPhone.
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iPhone Coming to Verizon... Next Year?
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Not to mention the fact that there are other CDMA carriers around the world that would probably jump at an opportunity to carry the iPhone.
Indeed. Given that GSM may be a much more widely used network, but CDMA has been running at 3.5G/EVDO for a while now. And AT&T is barely able to give users the 3G that they advertise. On the iPhone, it's not that much faster than EDGE.
Nonsense
Despite some peoples love of Verizon, I think the number one reason you will not see an iPhone on Verizon until they transition to LTE is that Apple doesn't make single market products. I can't imagine iPhone coming out on a non-world standard at this time or in the near future. Until then expect UMTS/HSxPA phones. Half the time, I think bloggers invent rumors to support their personal wishes.
Despite some peoples love of Verizon, I think the number one reason you will not see an iPhone on Verizon until they transition to LTE is that Apple doesn't make single market products. I can't imagine iPhone coming out on a non-world standard at this time or in the near future. Until then expect UMTS/HSxPA phones. Half the time, I think bloggers invent rumors to support their personal wishes.
I agree, but I agree with the fact that Apple wants to make money even more. I don't have a stance on whether there will be a CDMA version of the iPhone, I don't really care too much, but I do know that given the opportunity to par up with another company and make more money Apple will take it.
So far, Apple has been doing a good job of covering all it's basis in terms of making money and opening up the potential of the Mac and iPhone.
What part of "there are other CDMA carriers around the world" did you not understand? GSM may be ubiquitous, but it's NOT a "world standard." It IS a European standard and is used throughout the world, but there is no one-world government saying GSM is the standard for wireless communication.
LOL not this again. Anyone who thinks an unencumbered apple won't make an iphone for VZW isn't thinking right. That's like throwing money away. Not only that, apple wants iphone to be dominant in the mobile computing space. You cant do that if half the people in your biggest market don't even have a chance to buy your product. If there isn't an iphone on VZW its because both parties can't come to an agreement that makes sense financially, not because of some engineering issue. Do you really think apple's engineers are so incompetent that they cannot make a version of their phone with a CDMA radio when all the other major handset manfacturers can? LOL
Apple has already shown that they want to be on Verizon.
Verizon CDMA was their first or near first choice.
Apples ORIGINAL PLAN was to release it on Verizon here. Who cares if CDMA =/= World Standard? There are A LOT of CDMA users who will jump at a Verizon capable iPhone. Apple knows this, which adds the likelyness of this happening. Especially with Google Android stepping up and challenging Apple, Apple is not going to back itself into a corner and stick to one cell-technology and one provider.
If I were Verizon, I'd be kicking myself for rejecting Apple's proposal in the first place....they lost A LOT of customers to AT+T and prly realize that they missed the boat on this one. I could see them wanting a piece of the pie.
If iPhone goes to Verizon, I go back to Verizon....for me the loss of reception when I switched to AT+T is a big bummer, but I love the phone...internet, app store, form factor, and I won't go back to Verizon until they get the iPhone.
Apple already crippled bluetooth just like Verizon did so I don't know if there is anything else Verizon could do to make it unappetizing to switch back....maybe not let us use iTunes or something...but we all know Apple wouldn't let that happen.
I hope this rumor is true, cause I would gladly jump ship and pay an ETF to do it....
If iPhone goes to Verizon, I go back to Verizon....for me the loss of reception when I switched to AT+T is a big bummer, but I love the phone...internet, app store, form factor, and I won't go back to Verizon until they get the iPhone.
Apple already crippled bluetooth just like Verizon did so I don't know if there is anything else Verizon could do to make it unappetizing to switch back....maybe not let us use iTunes or something...but we all know Apple wouldn't let that happen.
I hope this rumor is true, cause I would gladly jump ship and pay an ETF to do it....
Verizon lost a few, but they're not hurting. Last year they lost less percentage of customers than ATT did, and they made more money with fewer customers overall.
Verizon also claims they are second only to iTunes in sales of ringtones and music for phones.
OTOH, reportedly ATT gets a cut of the App Store, which could be nice.
You'd not be alone.
Going along with Xtgirl, many users aren't going over to AT&T simply for the service...
And many people aren't staying with Verizon because they think the iPhone sucks.
Apple does want the phone on any network that will have them. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see Apple finding a way out of the AT&T exclusivity, or Apple and AT&T simply breaking the contract.
And many people aren't staying with Verizon because they think the iPhone sucks.
Apple does want the phone on any network that will have them. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see Apple finding a way out of the AT&T exclusivity, or Apple and AT&T simply breaking the contract.
It would be great in Arizona...
AT&T is just horrible in Phoenix. Conversations about coverage usually end up in Verizon's favor, so I suspect it would be great for Apple to have them as a carrier in this region. AT&T is the number one reason quoted when people tell me why they don't have an iPhone. Mine drops calls and has almost no signal strength at my own home, and zero at my job.
AT&T is just horrible in Phoenix. Conversations about coverage usually end up in Verizon's favor, so I suspect it would be great for Apple to have them as a carrier in this region. AT&T is the number one reason quoted when people tell me why they don't have an iPhone. Mine drops calls and has almost no signal strength at my own home, and zero at my job.
I couldnt agree more. I left VZW for the original iPhone and jumped back and was glad to pay the ETF because ATT's service is horribly subpar in Florida. I had to keep the phone on my desk infront of the window to use it.
Right now Im loving the Touch Diamond on Sprint but if VZW gets the iPhone then I immediately jump ship back to VZW because the iPhone with EVDO Rev A will be a Godsend.
Agreed. I miss getting service in the basements of stone buildings and never worrying about a signal. Plus I would love to get back on my family plan and save a few.
I can see verizon trying to get apple to put their logo on the iPhone... which would be hideous.
Not to say the article is wrong, but it could've gone deeper:
When ATT's chief said "multi-year" back in Jan 2007, bear in mind that the Apple-ATT contract was signed in summer 2006. That makes 2008 easily the end of the first "multi-year" contract.
As for "The problem with the report is that the Apple and AT&T exclusivity deal is fact, not rumor."
Eh? Any current deal is still just speculation or "backroom" rumor.
Good to hear there are some that DO have sense. How is that Diamond on the Sprint network anyway? Is the back of the phone like the picture, does it have WiFi, and is it as good as HTC's website makes it?
I would buy an iPhone in a heartbeat if either Sprint or VZW could promise me two things: 1) Insurance for the iPhone, and 2) the same 3.5G signal strength that I get with my current Sprint phones. I'd even pay the $100 for unlimited service for an iPhone on either CDMA network.
from what I've heard online, Is that both AT&T and Verizon are going the route of LTE, with Verizon planning on rolling it out end of 2009 into 2010. I could see the iphone comming out as one of the first 4g LTE phones, which would be compatiable on both Verizon and ATT
I would switch to Verizon instantly if they offered an iPhone; Verizon service where I work is far better than AT&T (zero AT&T signal inside the building while there's perfect Verizon coverage).
I had a Motorola Q on Verizon before the iPhone came out. Can't imagine going back to something other than the iPhone however.
I had a Motorola Q on Verizon before the iPhone came out. Can't imagine going back to something other than the iPhone however.
Apple is not going to make a CDMA iPhone. It would be stupid to do so.
Verizon will be switching over to a GSM system in the next few years. They announced that maybe six months ago.
Verizon will be switching over to a GSM system in the next few years. They announced that maybe six months ago.
Its really funny hearing people say verizon sucks in their state. I live in NY State which is if you don't know a very powerful state and has a super large Verizon base. Only one person I know has a different phone other than Verizon. I never met one single person who uses At+t. I don't have any Apple fan boy friends so that might be the case. Every single friend(except my one idiot sprint firend) and customers I have is hooked up with Verizon.
I would buy an Iphone if they get the flashplayer and move over to Verizon.
I would buy an Iphone if they get the flashplayer and move over to Verizon.
I'm sorry but you and others that say this have no concept of how the cell phone industry works.
What Verizon announced was a gradual switch to LTE, which could be viewed as a distant offspring of GSM technology, but it is not GSM. Now put your thinking cap on for just a minute. Just how major do you think such a switch will be? Verizon has 60 million customers, currently all on CDMA, and countless towers. The switch to LTE will take a LONG LONG time and the old technology will run in parallel with it for a LONG LONG time. LTE rollout won't START until 2012, per Verizon's announcement, and I'm sure CDMA won't be obsolete until at least 5 years after that.
Now back to handsets for a minute. Apple is so far updating the iPhone on a 1 year cycle. They are undoubtedly working on the next model already. Verizon rolls out new handsets all the time, and most smartphone models are only sold for maybe 8 - 12 months until they are replaced with something new.
So in summary: Cell technology updates on a very long cycle (5-10 years). Handset technology updates on a pretty rapid cycle (6-12 months).
Therefore, Apple would have NOTHING to lose by coming out with a CDMA model of the iPhone. They would sell PLENTY of them for many years before the next gen of cell technology is even an issue.
IMO the only reason Apple has not started selling a CDMA iPhone is because they got a really sweet exclusivity deal with AT&T that made them more money. Once that runs out, it's open season for Apple. Steve does not ignore market share opportunity unless the alternative makes him more money.
They're not switching to GSM. They're adding on LTE, just as ATT is.
Although a GSM group worked on it and approved LTE first, it is no longer just the 4G path for most GSM carriers, it is also the 4G path for other carriers. So calling it "GSM" is really bogus. It's simply a 4G path for anyone who wants to use it.
LTE has no technical relationship to either GSM or CDMA. It's totally different. It is far closer to WiMAX, in fact, especially in the IP based backend. Also bear in mind that GSM 3G is based on CDMA, so you could say that LTE is the upgrade path for all 3G CDMA users.... including ATT.
And one more time: an LTE phone will still be made to fall back on the carrier's native protocols. A Verizon LTE phone will fall back on CDMA. An ATT LTE phone will fail back to GSM.
Such a shame Apple will not make the iPhone work on CDMA networks too, they're essentially alienating half of the US market
Not to mention that it wouldn't be too hard to grab that large chunk of the US market since many that don't have an iPhone consider their service provider to me far more important than the phone they'd be using.
In the end, it's always going to be a choice between the iPhone & AT&T... or everything else.