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iPhone Details from AT&T's Sales Training Workbook
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No IM huh? anyone ever heard of meebo.com? If the iPhone's version of Safari is as powerful as Apple says it is, it should have no problem whatsoever running meebo.com
I could care less about MMS, but, I am glad that some people here seem to be bothered with it. Just in case the 3 million iPhones available at launch is an over estimate, it should only increase my chances of getting one on the 29th.
ROTFL!! Best reply I've seen yet. And while I have my own list of gripes, what phone is perfect? I love my Cingular (HTC) 8525, but it has flaws too. I'd rather have a not-yet-perfect iPhone since I have a mac to sync with and a 24-hour Apple store nearby. Also some gripes of others are not major issues to me. I see the iPhone as a PHONE that happens to have an iPod, video player, etc. I will keep my nano for the gym. I never used my video iPod. No one I know sends mms, and rarely do I text anyone.
I am most interested in the TRUTH about the web browsing capabilities. I wonder what type of Flash support it has. And honestly the lack of 3G concerns me, but maybe it'll connect to wi-fi successfully. If they have 30-day return policy like with other phones, it won't hurt to try it.
in looking at all the posted pages from the manual, there are 11 missing. 4 of which are probably blank if you look at the layout (they are after the end of a section and the next section starts after a blank left hand page and on the next right hand page). That leaves 7: pgs 1-5,9(probably blank),10(probably blank),12(probably blank),17,24(probably blank),31
1-5 probably don't contain any information other than employee worksheets and things shown on 6-8
17&31 is quite possible the "overcoming objections" portion about visual voicemail/widgets respectively or a blank page
Those are my guesses
I'm not saying that there isn't a need to have a consistent means to return to the home screen. A button is certainly one way to do it, but why muck with an otherwise very clean-looking interface by having a mechanical button. For $6 or something like that they could've stuck a scroll wheel on it if that's what they were looking for. With a camera, they don't actually need a mechanical button. Could just detect it being covered up (kind of like the reset function of an EyeToy) and have the same end result.
Just out of curiosity, has anyone been able to definitively rule out that it IS a camera under there?
...your analogy (driving drunk, into shallow lakes, etc) is a very poor one, as the risk is much greater with those activities. [Leaving cell phone, unused, is in comparison] hardly worthy of a Darwin award. In any case, I have no doubt I will outlive you.
I was trying to address the thought process (didn't happen last time, won't happen next) rather than the specifics.
But regardless, here's to long lives for both of us! (quaffs a diet dew)
Sweet! I can't wait to see if the Safari browser works as claimed for this very reason. But I hope to be able to use the Firefox browser (haha -- wishful thinking?) instead b/c quite a few sites/functions are not compatible with Safari as-is.
That would make a lot of sense. Haven't seen much speculation in what changes are due in .Mac. Regarding being too slow for EDGE, might be the case but it isn't too slow for WiFi, so it is certainly a feature they could include. Given that it is a full-blown OSX, and iChatAV IS part of OSX, the question might be.. Why wouldn't they do this?
I don't know. What do they say when you ask why your RAZR doesn't have WiFi? Or a touchscreen (never mind multi-touch)? Or play wide screen movies? Or have an elegant interface? Orientation sensor? Proximity sensor? Large screen? 8GB of storage?
My point is that all phones and other things in life have advantages and disadvantages - you need to pick the phone that is right for you. In other words, the one that has the advantages you want.
I have GPS in my car, so I don't really care if my phone does too. It'd be nice, but not a high priority.
Ha! My point exactly. Plus let's not forget about "crowd control". I certainly do not want to be on an airplane where someone snaps because someone is yammering on their phone for too long.
Fair enough, but the specifics do matter. It's relatively okay to have a less-than-logical thought process about something unimportant.
Ahh artificial sweeteners...
Sheep
Knowing one of the Boeing engineers who was responsible for taking every piece of consumer electronics known to man or woman along with industrial high power transmitters, through the entire cabin of their aircrafts including setting the transmitters on the cockpit instruments, and having a fail or even glitch rate of any on board system be zero, well ... Anyone who believes that with the millions of ground and air transmitters out there that a cell phone is going to have any impact on a plane is crazzzzy, and will probably do anything a person holding a clipboard said. The airlines make it a policy to turn off phones because, they have contracts with a certain wireless carrier for there air phones and compnay. Their contracts with their chosen wireless carrier, does not allow them to have other carries used onboard. And from personal experience I have checked email and sent text messages while circling San Francisco, Houston, New York, Minneapolis, and Orlando. Not saying its always great signal but it has gotten better over the last 2 years and Im sure will continue to do so.
Knowing one of the Boeing engineers who was responsible for taking every piece of consumer electronics known to man or woman along with industrial high power transmitters, through the entire cabin of their aircrafts including setting the transmitters on the cockpit instruments, and having a fail or even glitch rate of any on board system be zero, well ... Anyone who believes that with the millions of ground and air transmitters out there that a cell phone is going to have any impact on a plane is crazzzzy, and will probably do anything a person holding a clipboard said. The airlines make it a policy to turn off phones because, they have contracts with a certain wireless carrier for there air phones and compnay. Their contracts with their chosen wireless carrier, does not allow them to have other carries used onboard. And from personal experience I have checked email and sent text messages while circling San Francisco, Houston, New York, Minneapolis, and Orlando. Not saying its always great signal but it has gotten better over the last 2 years and Im sure will continue to do so.
Sheepish
Knowing one of the Boeing engineers who was responsible for taking every piece of consumer electronics known to man or woman along with industrial high power transmitters, through the entire cabin of their aircrafts including setting the transmitters on the cockpit instruments, and having a fail or even glitch rate of any on board system be zero, well ... Anyone who believes that with the millions of ground and air transmitters out there that a cell phone is going to have any impact on a plane is crazzzzy, and will probably do anything a person holding a clipboard said. The airlines make it a policy to turn off phones because, they have contracts with a certain wireless carrier for there air phones and compnay. Their contracts with their chosen wireless carrier, does not allow them to have other carries used onboard. And from personal experience I have checked email and sent text messages while circling San Francisco, Houston, New York, Minneapolis, and Orlando. Not saying its always great signal but it has gotten better over the last 2 years and Im sure will continue to do so.
Knowing one of the Boeing engineers who was responsible for taking every piece of consumer electronics known to man or woman along with industrial high power transmitters, through the entire cabin of their aircrafts including setting the transmitters on the cockpit instruments, and having a fail or even glitch rate of any on board system be zero, well ... Anyone who believes that with the millions of ground and air transmitters out there that a cell phone is going to have any impact on a plane is crazzzzy, and will probably do anything a person holding a clipboard said. The airlines make it a policy to turn off phones because, they have contracts with a certain wireless carrier for there air phones and compnay. Their contracts with their chosen wireless carrier, does not allow them to have other carries used onboard. And from personal experience I have checked email and sent text messages while circling San Francisco, Houston, New York, Minneapolis, and Orlando. Not saying its always great signal but it has gotten better over the last 2 years and Im sure will continue to do so.
if you look at the front cover picture, the phone still says "Cingular" in the carrier id, AT&T has plenty of pictures that say "AT&T" so wouldn't they use one of those? I smelly something fishy...
As someone else said, the only pages posted were ones containing worthy information. The rest were mainly sales tactics and pages where the sales associate could take notes on their progress.
The book was made beforehand. On an early page I believe wasn't posted, it says "By the time you will have this book, we will know the date of iPhone's release. Write the date below." There is a big box right there to write the date in. If they hadn't known the date, Cingular/AT&T probably wasn't done with their transition yet.
Two missing features that seems to cause some controversy are no iChat and no MMS. I think that SMS is meant to replace iChat, and email is meant to replace MMS. The first makes sense from both a monetary and permanent connection perspective, the second based on that Mail allows for much more manipulation over multimedia. MMS would just be a cheap knock-off.
But wasn't cellphone use prohibited long before phones-for-fee became commonplace on airplanes? I think lots of the planes i fly in these days still lack those phones?
Yes.. but as many have said before.. it's always nice to be able to send those pictures to all your friends (or whatever) who still use a crappy old phone. As for the worries about receiving MMSesses(?).. those messages you get: "you have an MMS waiting for you at suckyoperator.com"
never seemed to work back when I had a phone without MMS capability, but maybe that's just me (and Telia for all you swedes out there).
"MMS - It just works.. I take a photo and boom it's sent, to anyone, anywhere! It amazing." (You get the point
Ok - fair enough. I personally don't use it but I am seeing now that enough people are upset by this with good reason so I concede It's a silly thing to have missed.
Which now begs the question ;
Why didn't all the Apple folks who have been using this and testing it and messing with it for 2.5 years ever realise this was missing ?
It doesn't make any sense at all ?
That's a big let down for me, as I use IM all the time on my SK3... I really want an iPhone, but I'd be moving mid-contract to something with less functionality so that may cause me to wait a while. Having said that though, Safari will completely eclipse my current "browsing" experience...
New device...
It's a bluetooth device that is a GPS and 3g receiver that converts to 802.11b, adds and stores MMS attachments with a built-in iSight camera and is bundled with the iPhone.
It's called the iCompensator
HAHAH. I'm funny.
I'm buying a damn iPhone just cuz it's an Apple product and because I already have ATT with an unlimited data plan so really, who cares. If I don't like it, I'll sell it for a couple hundred in a few weeks.
Life's too short.
It's a bluetooth device that is a GPS and 3g receiver that converts to 802.11b, adds and stores MMS attachments with a built-in iSight camera and is bundled with the iPhone.
It's called the iCompensator
HAHAH. I'm funny.
I'm buying a damn iPhone just cuz it's an Apple product and because I already have ATT with an unlimited data plan so really, who cares. If I don't like it, I'll sell it for a couple hundred in a few weeks.
Life's too short.
Darn it fairynymph, every time i seek a cordial closure on this you set me off again. Your initial post said you'd used your phone on flights before "and nothing happened". Like what, the plane didn't crash? Now you refer to "...something unimportant" !?
I'm no engineer, so i can't know whether the threat to onboard navigation systems is real or a sham, any more than we can conclusively argue global warming, the Coriolis Effect, or what my brother really was doing that day i couldn't find him on our trip to Kuala Lumpur. I think my initial beef was the casual way you dismissed behavior that could have grave consequences. Break rules when the risks are small; don't break them when the risks to others could be considerable. It's a mindset that's putting us at odds, i guess.
That diet diew I tipped to you was caffeine free, or i'd be more worked up over this.
Internal Cingular documents all said AT&T almost a month before the "official" changeover to AT&T in anticipation of it, and the iPhone spec documents and information was only recently printed. These do not contain all the anticipated programs on the phone, nor do they accurately reflect the capability of the two most "controversial" parts people have been talking about here.
While these are not "Fake" per say, these are a mockup. The true manual has AT&T all over it, and adds a few more features people dont know about yet and wont until Monday.
Sorry to burst all of your bubbles, but wait till Monday to see what the iPhone can REALLY do.