so ur saying that turning off edge roaming wont do anything if we have an iphone with no data plan on att.
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iPhone Firmware 1.1.1 Soon?
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so ur saying that turning off edge roaming wont do anything if we have an iphone with no data plan on att.
You are correct, sir. If ATT detects it's *their* EDGE network it will jump right on it, and if you're using an unlocked iPhone with an ATT SIM other than an iPhone SIM they will bill you all day long per kb, MB, however they do it. Unless they lock people off their data network if they don't have a data plan. I know T-mobile does; T-mo requires you have at least a basic data plan to access EDGE or GPRS at all from a phone on their network. But I think ATT will gladly meter you.
Look on the bright side... we're definitely going to be getting the update sometime this week.
Yes, this week, although I'd be thrilled with a luck-out today, happy with tomorrow, bummed by waiting until Friday. But, yeah, this week.
I can verify this. I recently activated the RAZR that my iPhone replaced for my girlfriend. It didn't have any data plan but I forgot to disable the e-mail account on there. It merrily kept checking for mail and we didn't notice it until a couple weeks, and $70 in data charges, later.
SalsaShark: cool little forum nickname.
That's what I thought. No data plan does not protect you from data usage. Honestly, I prefer it this way, as I had no data plan with T-mo when I was on T-mo before iPhone, because their unlimited data plan was what I considered too expensive. But I would have liked to check e-mail or a web page once in a while, even paying at metered rates. But you're prohibited without a plan, some of which are capped and metered, anyway. T-mo did well by us before our iPhones, but they're not the great deal many unlockers have imagined.
Also, try calling ATT and asking them if you will buy an iPhone from them and activate an iPhone on an iPhone plan, will they forgive the accidental $70 data charges? Because if it goes like it went with my wife, within a couple weeks, if we're talking a long-term serious relationship here, you will be buying and activating an iPhone for your girlfriend. This way you'll be saving $70 in the bargain.
Look on the bright side... we're definitely going to be getting the update sometime this week.
I meant to mention that if it is tomorrow the wait is sort of artificially shortened for me as I have a warranty replacement of a Seagate internal notebook drive arriving today -- by the way, Seagate, great warranty service experience. So when that gets here, it may as well be Tuesday already, as I'll be doing the clone to external drive, swap internal drives, clone back to internal drive thing -- meaning I can't update until tomorrow anyway. I will like that just fine unless the update comes out while I'm stuck unable to update.
I just gotta know...
Ok, so I just need to know what we're actually looking for in this update (1.1.1).
I know wifi store is at the top of the list, but is there anything else that "big"? I mean EDGE roaming off and int keyboard are ok, but, is there anything else as cool as the wifi store? And where can i find where Jobs said "before the end of the month?"
Ok, so I just need to know what we're actually looking for in this update (1.1.1).
I know wifi store is at the top of the list, but is there anything else that "big"? I mean EDGE roaming off and int keyboard are ok, but, is there anything else as cool as the wifi store? And where can i find where Jobs said "before the end of the month?"
I could probably get them to drop that charge, but for the moment I'm more concerned with the $400 I got charged for data in Canada that they assured me would not happen. The regional manager told me he'd take care of it but it's still on my bill. As for another iPhone, I'm just happy if I can get my gf to take the RAZR and answer calls. I don't think the iPhone would even make it out of its cradle if I got her one.
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if i get the iphone after this week will the iphones be shipped with 1.1.1 firmware in it? Also if the iphones are firmware 1.1.1 am i able to downgrade the firmware to 1.0.2 so i can unlock it? Thanks
if i get the iphone after this week will the iphones be shipped with 1.1.1 firmware in it? Also if the iphones are firmware 1.1.1 am i able to downgrade the firmware to 1.0.2 so i can unlock it? Thanks
if i get the iphone after this week will the iphones be shipped with 1.1.1 firmware in it? Also if the iphones are firmware 1.1.1 am i able to downgrade the firmware to 1.0.2 so i can unlock it? Thanks
If you buy the phone after they release the firmware update it may or not have it pre-installed. It all depends on when the actual unit you receive was packaged.
I am not 100% sure on retrograding your firmware. I think you can, but I am unsure of the actual process. If you're concerned about unlocking your iPhone once you get I am sure that someone will hack the 1.1.1 eventually.
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man there has been so much buzz surrounding this firmware upgrade... and yet it really doesn't add too much to the iPhone... or at least as far as we know...
maybe they're sneaking in a few surprises ( that's why it's taking so long... )
maybe they're sneaking in a few surprises ( that's why it's taking so long... )
i would bet anything i have there wont be any surprises .. we are just talking about it becuase it's already been seen in the wild and many of us are hoping theres more than actually reported .. but i wont be fooled.
so if this update locks all phones, but wut if ur running cingular without unlocking it. will it still work?
so wuts the cheapest but best package to use for att without useing the iphone plan.
Tick, tock, tick, tock.
We're definitely going to see it this week, maybe tomorrow.
Or maybe it will be delayed so they can assign more developers to work on Leopard. How ironic would that be?
We're definitely going to see it this week, maybe tomorrow.
Or maybe it will be delayed so they can assign more developers to work on Leopard. How ironic would that be?
It'll come out tomorrow, b/c this morning I put AppTap on my iPhone. and as of tomorrow it will prob. no longer work
"CUPERTINO, Calif., Sept. 24 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Apple has discovered that many of the unauthorized iPhone unlocking programs available on the Internet cause irreparable damage to the iPhone's software, which will likely result in the modified iPhone becoming permanently inoperable when a future Apple-supplied iPhone software update is installed. Apple plans to release the next iPhone software update, containing many new features including the iTunes Wi-Fi Music Store (www.itunes.com), later this week. Apple strongly discourages users from installing unauthorized unlocking programs on their iPhones. Users who make unauthorized modifications to the software on their iPhone violate their iPhone software license agreement and void their warranty. The permanent inability to use an iPhone due to installing unlocking software is not covered under the iPhone's warranty."
Can someone tell me if when they FINALLY release 1.1.1 if apptapp will still work OR do I need to restore my iphone through itunes, sync and install 1.1.1 then reinstall apptapp... THANKS!!
BTW... I'm new to this site (not new to using apple products though) and since I starting reading all these posts I have learned more about what I can do with my Iphone then I could have imagined!!! THANK YOU ALL!
BTW... I'm new to this site (not new to using apple products though) and since I starting reading all these posts I have learned more about what I can do with my Iphone then I could have imagined!!! THANK YOU ALL!
i hope the firmware update will come out tomorrow... i wonder if it's gonnna be able to unlock cus i was planning on getting mine sometime this week or next week
I dont know, when someone says "later this week" on a moday, that usually means later this week like friday-ish not later this week tomorrow...i hope im wrong though im just not getting too excited that way i cant get disappointed
Sorry, but my source tell me that the Update 1.1.1 due to the iphone users will be release in Sep 27, 2007.
May be Apple release it tomorrow, but i am waiting it on Sep 27.
Sorry, but my source tell me that the Update 1.1.1 due to the iphone users will be release in Sep 27, 2007.
May be Apple release it tomorrow, but i am waiting it on Sep 27.
Your English still sucks!
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