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Actually, the Internaional Keyboard is there in a way. Go to Mail, begin a new message. While typing, if you hold down certain keys for about a second, many options will pop up for that letter. This works with all the vowels, C, and N that I have tried. Very nice implementation IMO.

Its nice, but nothing near an international keyboard.
 
See, this is the kind of thing I hate. This should be dummy-proofed by now -- in 2007, Apple can't do a full sync/backup of the iPhone or give users the option to do so before blowing away the SRAM with a restore function.

ARGH!!!

Yes.

Updating now. It apparently had to do a restore, so I lost the few photos I hadn't pushed over to iPhoto yet :( and my Notes.
 
Anyone else have a weird Bluetooth issue? My headset connects fine but when I go to the Bluetooth settings on the phone, next to Devices I see a spinning icon and it doesn't seem to ever stop. I still see the headset I have paired with it in the list but it's just that spinning icon that bugs me.
 
If I update to 1.1.1 (Im not going to yet, I love apptapp), will bypassing activation still work (with iPhone Tool)? Also, will enabling YouTube on an iPhone with bypassed activation work? Will it work again after I restore it? Thanks!
 
I personally think this update is a joke. No IM, no mention of native apps capability to provide functionality that Apple isn't providing, still no copy/paste.

Someone mentioned earlier that Apple basically created a possible new way for us to give them $$ and not much more. Based on some recent reports of Apple sending shutdown notices we know they are aware of the wants and needs out there and they chose as a main part of the update the ability to buy music.

A new Curve with REAL GPS will be out soon and my iPhone will be for sale.

Not trying to be snarky, but if native IM and real GPS are that important to you, why the hell did you buy a phone that doesn't have either? I can see complaining that you won't buy one because of these things, but to state you will be *selling* because of these things just strikes me as you being stupid.

It's like if I bought a Curve and then at the first major software update for the Curve I start bitching about how the interface sucks and it isn't touch screen.
 
Didn't have an unlocked phone but only AppTapp Installer and now since 1.1.1 my autocorrect doesn't work anymore :(
 
Did anyone notice that there are some new basic ringtones added - unless I just didn't see them before: Strum, Timba, Pinball, Robot and I think Trill. Can anyone confirm these?D
No, they're on my not-yet-updated iPhone.
 
You just reminded me how much we need MobileVLC... ;-)


As much as I would like to see it, I think no Edge iTunes is to do more with Apple protecting consumption of the ATT network. They don't need a million people DL'ing 4mb on a limited network. For that same reason, I doubt there will be any streaming media players (such as Pocket Tunes on the Treo) which pretty much blows. BTW: I consistently was able to stream a 128 stereo mp3 stream on the Treo over ATT/Edge.
 
So if someone attempts to restore their iPhone now does it mean they have to restore to 1.1.1 or can they select 1.0.2?
 
One observation so far:

Apple's desire to keep things locked down after the horse bolted has left a lot of unlocked and/or jailbroke iphones in many different states.

Can the strategy to keep this all locked down be considered wise?

I think a better approach would have been to have this a much more open platform.
 
Can anybody give a concrete answer to this question:

What are the top 5 apps that make hacking my iPhone worthwhile?

Not theory, not principle, not what-if scenarios about the future: real apps. It seems to me a lot of people are dying on the cross for an NES emulator... I'm just trying to decide if there are any real, important, game-changing things to be gained by having access to 3rd party apps.

I'm all for 3rd party development, but at the end of the day I'm only going to hack my phone if there is an actual compelling reason to do so. Seems to me like the "hacking" gains stuff that most people wouldn't even bother bringing up if they were freely available. Prove me wrong.

(And "native IM" is not compelling since web-based gets you 90% of the way there already. Native IM makes things slightly more convenient, which is a far cry from a deal-breaker).
 
Can anybody give a concrete answer to this question:

What are the top 5 apps that make hacking my iPhone worthwhile?

Not theory, not principle, not what-if scenarios about the future: real apps. It seems to me a lot of people are dying on the cross for an NES emulator... I'm just trying to decide if there are any real, important, game-changing things to be gained by having access to 3rd party apps.

I'm all for 3rd party development, but at the end of the day I'm only going to hack my phone if there is an actual compelling reason to do so. Seems to me like the "hacking" gains stuff that most people wouldn't even bother bringing up if they were freely available. Prove me wrong.

(And "native IM" is not compelling since web-based gets you 90% of the way there already. Native IM makes things slightly more convenient, which is a far cry from a deal-breaker).

No iPhone here (UK) but I was looking foward to an ssh client on my iPhone.
 
One observation so far:

Apple's desire to keep things locked down after the horse bolted has left a lot of unlocked and/or jailbroke iphones in many different states.

Can the strategy to keep this all locked down be considered wise?

I think a better approach would have been to have this a much more open platform.

I have to agree. Don't get me wrong, I love Apple and will always have much respect for their products, but Jobs' OCD is a lit bit out of control with the iPhone. I realize it is to be expected, that hacking/modding icons and such may cause conflicts, but c'mon already, my RAZR on Cingular allowed for customization through ObEx and that wasn't against Cingular/Motorola policy. I know, Apples and oranges, but for the $599 price tag, at least let me use SOME of the capabilities my RAZR had. Sheesh Apple :(.
 
Ok I updated and now I am bored with the new features. It took, let's see, 3 months to come out with them. 3rd party was a better way to go. I was seeing new native apps daily. If Apple were to purchase installer.app and then Apple can approve the apps that get installed on the iPhone. They could then use that method to deploy applications to iPhones. I mean come on. Having to go back to your computer to install applications is so Palm and Pocket PC.

Google hurry up with the gPhone and make it open source and open network.
 
I didn't have time to browse the other responses, so if this has been mentioned, I'm sorry.

I had one of the 7-series screens (from field test) and not the 5-series. The white dots in the background problem is gone on my phone. Totally gone.

I'm thrilled! My screen seems to be so much sharper and clearer.
 
There isn't any yet. That is why they are all proof of concepts and they are free. Also, an app that is important to me may not be important to you. I like the new step counter app. I think it is a start of a good idea.

Can anybody give a concrete answer to this question:

What are the top 5 apps that make hacking my iPhone worthwhile?

Not theory, not principle, not what-if scenarios about the future: real apps. It seems to me a lot of people are dying on the cross for an NES emulator... I'm just trying to decide if there are any real, important, game-changing things to be gained by having access to 3rd party apps.

I'm all for 3rd party development, but at the end of the day I'm only going to hack my phone if there is an actual compelling reason to do so. Seems to me like the "hacking" gains stuff that most people wouldn't even bother bringing up if they were freely available. Prove me wrong.

(And "native IM" is not compelling since web-based gets you 90% of the way there already. Native IM makes things slightly more convenient, which is a far cry from a deal-breaker).
 
Timer bug fixed

Looks like they finally fixed the timer bug, where it added 21 seconds onto whatever time you input. For example, if you set a 40 minute timer, it would start counting down at 40:21.
 
My iToner experience - I upgraded fw, haven't touched iToner or contacts but old contacts maintain the pre-assigned rings. I probably will just leave it at that for the time being until something more official is announced.
 
I noticed a change after doing the 1.1.1 update, if you go under your yahoo email advanced settings there is an option for "use push mail" which you can turn on or off.
 
Can anybody give a concrete answer to this question:
What are the top 5 apps that make hacking my iPhone worthwhile?

(1) VNSea, I was remote controlling my home Mac and more importantly, my office WinBox. The update that just came out this morning was very usable.

(2) Summerboard was really getting fun, lots of very creative "skins" were becoming available for changing the appearance of the icons, dock, and wallpaper. I can't believe at 1.1.1 Apple hasn't even added something as simple as keeping your wallpaper behind the icons rather than plain black.

(3) NES was really nifty, because it was both fun to play all those retro games that kept me up all night in college, but it was the "gee whiz look what my iPhone can do" application

(4) Any of the several "Finder"-like file manipulation systems that allowed the iPhone to act as a little jump drive...still don't get why Apple won't let you sync selected files to the iPhone for transport from computer to computer, even if it was another barbed-wire protected tab in iTunes. Just about every iPod can do this, even the Shuffle...why do I still have to carry a jump drive with me?

(5) AIM/iChat compatible chat programs

So it was fun while it lasted, but I chose to wipe clean and start fresh....just in case I was at risk of being bricked. I will miss some of those apps, only the VNSea is irreplacable in terms of actual productivity for me, but I can still access my Mac via the web-based Telekinesis.
 
Not trying to be snarky, but if native IM and real GPS are that important to you, why the hell did you buy a phone that doesn't have either? I can see complaining that you won't buy one because of these things, but to state you will be *selling* because of these things just strikes me as you being stupid.

It's like if I bought a Curve and then at the first major software update for the Curve I start bitching about how the interface sucks and it isn't touch screen.

There are more polite ways to say what you said but I will answer your question. I did not buy my iPhone as I got it as a gift. I did accept it as I was blinded and confused thinking the mother of all phones would be able to do some very basic things, even if it came later via an update.

BTW, if you recall they claimed it would have a push-mail solution. IMAP is trash and far, far from a solution.
 
I just wanted to chime in that I updated my non sim unlocked, non customized (at the time of the update anyway) iPhone with iTunes 7.4.1(2) installed, and all went fine I guess. My ringtone that I snuck in via the older iTunes version hack still worked great, until of course I went into the settings on the iPhone to check to see if my ringtone was still in the list. On the general sounds page, where you can click to drill down to the list of ringtones, it listed my snuck in ringtone. But when I drilled down, it was no longer in the list, and the iPhone had reverted back to Marimba. I am so dang sad now, I am getting to where I dread updates instead of drool over them like I had been. I'm going to go pout in a corner until I think of something better to do.
 
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