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For those who were getting the 1604 error, I got mine working again by doing the update/restore from another computer. Got the error on my desktop. Hooked the phone up to my girlfriends laptop and it worked with no problems.
 
(Emphasis mine.) I must be missing something that is obvious to you. Can you point to the law or laws that prohibit installation of third party software on computers you own?

You're missing the point. The software is no longer compatible with the device. Apple stated that they're not supporting third party apps, which means that some might work, some might not. They're being up front about this. Now it's up to the third party software community to update their software. This is no different than when an OS is updated and an application stops working.
 
Status bar replaced by dark grey bar when using mail app?

I didn't have time to read all nearly 600 posts so I don't know if anyone else has posted this yet or not. But, has anyone else noticed that the status bar at the top of the screen is replaced by a dark grey bar when using the mail application?
 
You probably guessed it already but I happen to know that it's rumored that a 16Gb iPhone is coming (Holiday?). That's what the source says but i can't speak to the credibility of them because they just started working for Apple Corporate.
 
You probably guessed it already but I happen to know that it's rumored that a 16Gb iPhone is coming (Holiday?). That's what the source says but i can't speak to the credibility of them because they just started working for Apple Corporate.

Wow that's some incredible inside information. A 16gig is rumored to be coming out soon. Not even COMING OUT, but RUMORED to be coming out. Wow.

And now all they have to do is check out a few people that know you that just started work in Apple corporate to discover the source of this huge leak.
:D
 
Do not dispose of your rights so readily!

Can you point to where the OP suggested that installing third party software was not allowed?

I did. Read the quote in my original post.

Installation of third-party software is a separate issue from illegal hacking of protected code. Installation is perfectly legal. Breaking the law to get to the point where you can do so is still breaking the law.

There we go again, you write "illegal hacking of protected code". What does that mean? What law says I cannot modify the software on a device I own to perform as I see fit? You are making the same assertion as the poster I quoted but neglect to provide evidence supporting your claim.

At no point does the software (or any part thereof) become yours.

I do not make such a claim nor do I imply appropriating it or distributing it. I do claim, however, that the flash storage inside the device belongs to me and if I want to toggle any number of bits it represents to a configuration of my liking, I am well within my rights to do so.

The handset is yours to possess, dispossess, resell, or destroy, sure. The software and all of its aspects remains wholly owned by Apple.

Absolutely correct.

You can wholly replace that Apple software with your own or a third party's (assuming said software is itself not breaking any legal constraints). Their exercise of their property is not in conflict with your use of yours.

(Emphasis mine.) Exactly! Or I may replace tiny portions of their software at my discretion to in the pursuit of certain goals such as to facilitate the installation of my own software. And better yet, we have nearly 30 years of precedent with third party in the computer industry to protect that very activity!
 
GD! i updated because people on here stated that ringtones converted via the mp4 to m4r way or whatever still worked. well... they don't! i'll admit the speaker is louder and that was the only reason i wanted to update. the wifi music store is pointless since i don't buy music from itunes. i want a few apptapp programs, but am sick of missing call after call because of the low speakerphone/weak vibrate alert.

so thanks for the misinformation people.

another problem i seem to be having is the home button. double clicking on it always brings up the music controls. if i have 'phone favorites' selected it brings up music controls. if i select 'ipod' it brings up music controls. if i turn off 'show ipod controls' it pulls up ipod controls. i want my favorites to come up!
i swear, the iphone is getting on my nerves. can't wait for the Se k850 to come out and replace this damn thing.
 
another problem i seem to be having is the home button. double clicking on it always brings up the music controls. if i have 'phone favorites' selected it brings up music controls. if i select 'ipod' it brings up music controls. if i turn off 'show ipod controls' it pulls up ipod controls. i want my favorites to come up!
i swear, the iphone is getting on my nerves. can't wait for the Se k850 to come out and replace this damn thing.

Are you playing music when you double click the "home" button?
If so, try double clicking after stopping the play.
You can configure this functionality by enabling or disabling the "Show iPod Controls" feature.
 
Happy iBrick to those who hacked their iPhone. And then you complain about Apple? Don't like At&T? EDGE? TFB. Use your old Motorola and resign to the fact that you might not have the latest greatest must-have gadget by Apple. Chances are, they'll come out with another great product soon.
 
Happy iBrick to those who hacked their iPhone. And then you complain about Apple? Don't like At&T? EDGE? TFB. Use your old Motorola and resign to the fact that you might not have the latest greatest must-have gadget by Apple. Chances are, they'll come out with another great product soon.

My unlocked iphone still works great without the update. Enjoy the wifi Itunes,;)
 
Happy iBrick to those who hacked their iPhone. And then you complain about Apple? Don't like At&T? EDGE? TFB. Use your old Motorola and resign to the fact that you might not have the latest greatest must-have gadget by Apple. Chances are, they'll come out with another great product soon.

How much do you get paid for the shilling? :rolleyes:
 
I did. Read the quote in my original post.
No, you referred to a section regarding "illegal hacking" which is in no way synonymous with "third party installation"
What law says I cannot modify the software on a device I own to perform as I see fit?
You're free to modify software yourself for personal use. You are not free to distribute or engage in the commercial use of said modifications if they violate laws respective to the original software, nor are you granted any defensible legal right to the operation or execution of infringing third-party software. In the case of the iPhone, that would be, at common law, breach of contract, and pursuant to 17 USC §§101, 103, 109, et seq. along with 35 USC §§101, 271 et seq., infringement of property rights, for starters. It hardly ends there.
I do claim, however, that the flash storage inside the device belongs to me and if I want to toggle any number of bits it represents to a configuration of my liking, I am well within my rights to do so.
No court has ever made a distinction between the atoms composing a bit and the protected code it represents. There is no arbitrary method of hand-recoding a memory storage medium to avoid copying software that would otherwise be illegal--in other words, there is no non-infringing way of any statistical significance to get that same sequence, and thus your argument is void. Should any of the software used have violated the rights of Apple, they are perfectly within their rights to take measures to prevent said code from running on their software platform.

In order to object to any restrictions Apple may impose on their software, you would have to establish property rights to code compatibility, and you have none.
Or I may replace tiny portions of their software at my discretion to in the pursuit of certain goals such as to facilitate the installation of my own software.
Only insofar as your modifications do not infringe on any of Apple's rights or the rights of any third party whose code you may have obtained, and further only insofar as the Software License Agreement permits it.

You have no rights to the use of the Apple software on the iPhone except those granted by the SLA and those required by copyright law to allow for the execution of said code.
 
My story.

Okay, I have a June-29 purchase 8 GB iPhone, series 7 screen, using iTunes 7.4.1 (2) on OS X 10.4.10/Intel. (This is iTunes 7.4.1, but when I do "About iTunes", it says "7.4.1 (2)" It is not 7.4.2.)

I had a variety of third party apps on mine, including SummerBoard, a couple games, Terminal, the BSD utilities, a whole bunch of stuff.

I also had mine unlocked, but I use the original AT&T SIM. Here "original" meaning the one included in the iPhone when I bought it. But I had confirmed that a (U.S.) T-Mobile SIM worked in it after it was unlocked.

Looking at all the problems, it appeared to stem from unlocking breaking the iPhone's IMEI. People were reporting that the IMEI on their phone did *NOT* match what was on their iPhone box. So before trying the update, I checked mine. My IMEI matches.

So I took the plunge. I did a "Restore and Update", since I knew it was going to insist on a restore anyway because of the third-party software.

The restore went fine, it activated just fine, it restored just fine, and it synced just fine.

I now have all the 1.1.1 updates, WiFi store, bluetooth headset battery meter, the works.

But, my phone is now re-locked. That's right. My T-Mobile SIM produces the "SIM not Authorized" message, just like before I unlocked it. And, of course, nobody has figured out how to put third-party apps back on, so I don't have those, either.

Also, my manually-created ringtones are gone. (These were the 'created by just renaming to .m4r', then after updating to 7.4.1, renaming back to .m4a. I have not updated to 7.4.2.) They still appear in iTunes under 'Ringtones', but they didn't sync to the iPhone. (No error message, either.) My one purchased ringtone is there, though. (As expected.)

edit: Since my ringtones are gone, I went ahead and updated iTunes to 7.4.2. As expected, it deleted my manually-created ringtones from within iTunes as well. Not a huge loss.
 
No, you referred to a section regarding "illegal hacking" which is in no way synonymous with "third party installation"

You're free to modify software yourself for personal use. You are not free to distribute or engage in the commercial use of said modifications if they violate laws respective to the original software, nor are you granted any defensible legal right to the operation or execution of infringing third-party software. In the case of the iPhone, that would be, at common law, breach of contract, and pursuant to 17 USC §§101, 103, 109, et seq. along with 35 USC §§101, 271 et seq., infringement of property rights, for starters. It hardly ends there.

No court has ever made a distinction between the atoms composing a bit and the protected code it represents. There is no arbitrary method of hand-recoding a memory storage medium to avoid copying software that would otherwise be illegal--in other words, there is no non-infringing way of any statistical significance to get that same sequence, and thus your argument is void. Should any of the software used have violated the rights of Apple, they are perfectly within their rights to take measures to prevent said code from running on their software platform.

In order to object to any restrictions Apple may impose on their software, you would have to establish property rights to code compatibility, and you have none.

Only insofar as your modifications do not infringe on any of Apple's rights or the rights of any third party whose code you may have obtained, and further only insofar as the Software License Agreement permits it.

You have no rights to the use of the Apple software on the iPhone except those granted by the SLA and those required by copyright law to allow for the execution of said code.
I concurr
 
Can anybody give a concrete answer to this question:

What are the top 5 apps that make hacking my iPhone worthwhile?

Not theory, not principle, not what-if scenarios about the future: real apps. It seems to me a lot of people are dying on the cross for an NES emulator... I'm just trying to decide if there are any real, important, game-changing things to be gained by having access to 3rd party apps.

I'm all for 3rd party development, but at the end of the day I'm only going to hack my phone if there is an actual compelling reason to do so. Seems to me like the "hacking" gains stuff that most people wouldn't even bother bringing up if they were freely available. Prove me wrong.

(And "native IM" is not compelling since web-based gets you 90% of the way there already. Native IM makes things slightly more convenient, which is a far cry from a deal-breaker).

My most useful list:

1) The ability to completely customize my phone to make it unique - icons, sounds, colors, etc. easily.
2) ToDo List
3) VNotes - voice recorder
4) Books - Bible software and other ebooks of my choice.
5) weDict - reference library

I do enjoy an occasional game too, (helpful in waiting rooms).

To die for...no. More useful than wifi iTunes? Any day.

It's not what we have now that excites me most...it's what will surely come if Apple doesn't screw this up. In just 3 months without an SDK and zero help from Apple, these developers have done an incredible job. I can't even imagine going back to where we were + today's update - installer. I hope those guys don't stop for a minute...and I'm sure they won't.

Firmware 1.1.1 = iPhone -1.0
 
Gotta say, this seems like a let down....I'm not sure I"ll update unless someone actually verifies that volume is much better. But it's probably even more locked down now, and iTunes wifi music store is not an incentive to upgrade at all. I really don't need another way to spend money on a device I've already spent a lot on. Landscape email attachments, great, how about landscaping everywhere? How about that landscaped keyboard in other programs? Plus this update is like a choice between locked down with some bug fixes and the iTMS versus the unlimited potential of third party apps through installer.app on 1.0.2.

Come on already Apple, people expect more, open up!

God i am glad you dont work for apple. As it is i wish i could turn off landscape mode in safari. I definately dont want landscape everywhere!!!
 
Happy iBrick to those who hacked their iPhone. And then you complain about Apple? Don't like At&T? EDGE? TFB. Use your old Motorola and resign to the fact that you might not have the latest greatest must-have gadget by Apple. Chances are, they'll come out with another great product soon.

I love my iPhone and I enjoy other Apple products but I absolutely hate... HATE ... Apple fanboys (and gals).

Imagine if Microsoft came out with a software and said "no third party software, just ours". You guys would be suing Microsoft the next day. Yet if Apple does it then you have to go defend it. Shame!
 
iBricking iPhones is another way for Apple to make money. They knew that literally 200,000+ thousand iPhones have been unlocked. Rage against the machine, but I love the wit of Apple. Apple is laughing their asses off right now. They realize that so many people are going to have to purchase new iPhones from this, they know that people won't make such an expensive mistake twice.

Don't be so sure that the iPhone will get hacked anytime soon either. Even if it does, people hacking it immediately are going to be test mice for the hackers and this will equate to more iBricks.

Apple is going to progressively make it harder and harder to hack the iPhone to a point where the benefits won't outway the hassle.

Jobs' is cracking up right now and knows that it's really the hackers that are the idiots. Talented idiots, but nonetheless, idiots in his book. It all generates more sales and more PR.
 
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