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iPhone firmware update 1.1.1 released!
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Wow you've certainly bought into the myth of 'intellectual property'.
You buy an iPhone its like buying a book. You can cut out pages, you can add pages, you can rearrange the words, you can even buy someone else's kit for doing the same if it is all for your own use. And there could be nothing more for your own use than your personal mobile phone.
Apple no more owns each copy of the code than an author does the words printed in a book - they merely sell you a copy that you are free to do with as you will as long as you aren't selling the altered copy to someone else.
Its losing sight of the fact that all patent and copyright laws are for the benefit of the citizens not the creators as per the US constitution that we have come to the silly notion that individuals can own knowledge as property.
I guess some people dig this, but I've never been one of those "winamp skinning, turn your cursor into a laser gun" type of guys.
True. Actually, iCal should be updated with this functionality first, which would eliminate this need somewhat. There are some decent webapps for this stuff out there right now.
No question here: some people could really use this. This is one of those things where if Apple won't let 3rd parties do it, they need to do it themselves.
eBook reader seems logical too. Same as above. I don't think I'd ever use it though.
This strikes me as one of those "native IM" situations. The web stuff is pretty much doing the job unless you have no wi-fi and no EDGE for some reason.
This is my main beef with the current hacker situation: it's like a catch-22. Apple should open the iPhone becuase it will spur some great 3rd party apps. But there seems to be very little need to *hack* the iphone because the benefit isn't worth all the trouble: the apps just aren't there yet. Only when Apple opens the iPhone would their be apps worth hacking to get: but then we wouldn't need to hack the phone to get them.
My head spins.
Ahhh...
I'm really suprised more people aren't wondering where the landscape for the keyboard is at. I want this pretty bad for email and SMS.
I like the wifi ITMS. Works like a charm.
Now that I have that spot filled it makes me wonder what is going to go on the left side of that icon. Speaking of the icon... Isn't is terrible? They should've done something like a mini itunes logo or something. I dunno. minor complaint.
I'm really suprised more people aren't wondering where the landscape for the keyboard is at. I want this pretty bad for email and SMS.
I like the wifi ITMS. Works like a charm.
Now that I have that spot filled it makes me wonder what is going to go on the left side of that icon. Speaking of the icon... Isn't is terrible? They should've done something like a mini itunes logo or something. I dunno. minor complaint.
What a NASTY post - are you really happy because some people are having problems with a $400 - $600 dollar purchase?
I hope you dont have children......
'Test mice' WTF? The iphone dev people made excellent unlocking software for free - and it works perfectly.
The 'bricking' taking place today is mostly legit AT&T users who have had trouble with Apple's crazy 'update' and their foolish attempt to subvert the law.
NO unlockers are updating after all the warnings not to. Think about it.
FACTS:
(a) Legally, AT&T (or Apple) MUST unlock the iphone after 90 days if a customer asks them to.
(b) You can do what you want with your iPhone software as long as you dont sell it.
Iphone dev are giving the unlock away - no problem.
(c) In trying to 'lock' the non-phone parts of the iPhone, Apple have got themselves in a legal bind - the iPhone 'phone' part MUST be unlocked soon, even if Apple want to keep the rest of it locked.
These are the real issues, and its because the iPhone is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT form ALL other phones.
Its a COMPUTER with a phone in it - its the first to do this, and Apple will, hopefully, learn that 'locking' is illegal and foolish fairly soon now.
The PR is good, but ONLY if Apple unlock the iPhone. If they dont, the PR will turn very quickly against them, which would be a shame for such a GREAT product.
Chances of a class-action law suit are VERY high unless Apple backs down.
The customer is ALWAYS right - even if you think he/she is wrong.
I think Steve Jobs is asking how the f*** this mess happened, not laughing at all.....
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Wrong on every point.
1) I question your 200K unlocked number. I find it hard to believe that many people unlocked their phones. Hacked, yes. Unlocked, no.
2) The vast majority of those that unlocked are smart enough to read the clear warnings from Apple and not install this update. Those who did receive no pity from me. It couldn't have been more clear. Thus, I doubt that many phones got bricked. We're only hearing about the few that did. How many of those will run out and buy a new phone now? Not many, I'd bet.
3) The phone will get hacked again, and I'll bet it's only days...maybe a couple of weeks at most. Perhaps I'm overly optimistic, but it's only a matter of time.
4) Why would they do this, exactly? Makes no sense. Eventually, they will realize the futility of this foolishness and come to their senses.
5) Hackers are idiots? Right........
Anyone dumb enough to buy another one after Apple's tantrum broke their current one needs therapy. The first step to moving on is to admit the abuser doesn't love you and doesn't want to get better. Apple doesn't want to make the phone extendable and they are actively working to block your ability to do the same. Until the inevitable lawsuit compels them to knock it off or enough people vote with their wallets they will not change. You are nothing but a revenue stream to Apple. Hopefully Google will destroy the iPhone business with an open GPhone.
I like the Mac, and I put up with the crappy hardware choices available to the consumer, but Apple releases an update that breaks my Mac it would not be replaced with another one.
It's not a myth; it's the law. Your own modification is personal use, as has already been discussed. Once you take part in the distribution of materials in violation of law, you have entered the stream of commerce and are no longer protected by "personal use".
If you knew anything about the relevant issues of law, you'd know that no one, absolutely no one, endorses the idea of "owning knowledge".
The first FANBOY strikes!
First off, you're wrong, many unlockers ARE updating their iPhones. Many people won't publicly admit they unlocked their iPhones. Anyone with half a brain knows that Apple is out to sell product and Steve Jobs has been dealing with Hackers for the better part of his adult life. While the iPhone is a new gadget, it's just another computer dude.
You people and your class action law suits are ridiculous, a complete joke. Let's see just how fast a class action law suit gets thrown out of court. The reality is that many people want to cheat, lie, steal, and grasp oppertunity and then claim to be the victim. If you got iBricked, you gambled and lost.
For those unfortunate folks who have been affected and did nothing wrong, who doesn't feel bad for them? Unfortunately, to prevent things like this from happening, you got to lock the iPhone down. Right now it's probably locked down a little too much, but like any good data network's security posture, tighten as much as possible and loosen as only absolutely necessary. I'm sure another update will come out soon if there is truly a bug causing legit iPhones to brick.
The customer IS NOT always right.
Whiner!
Hackers aren't idiots, they're talented people, however, they're after a different kind of fulfilment, one that Steve Jobs' certainly isn't too concerned with after this many years in the business.
Fanboy #2/Whiner #2
Well if you were compelled to buy one in the first place, you might be very well compelled to buy one again. This is especially true if it was you who were ultimately responsible for the damage to your iPhone. People love to have their cake and eat it too, they love to be unaccountable, it's ridiculous. You gotta pay to play and people are going to pay.
Apple has a business to protect, period. They have innovated the best cell phone in American cellular history and brought it to the masses. Now people try and hack it, steal its secrets, break the exclusive contract with the AT&T carrier, and the whiners whine.
Such people don't deserve iPhones.
Makes me wonder if you had read all the posts... First of all, it's the .m4a files that still works, and for it to work, you have to have iTunes 7.4.2, and you also have to assign them to your contacts first before you update to 1.1.1
after the update, you cannot go and check if your ringtone still shows up in the list, if you do, it will revert back to default. As long as you don't click on the ringtone to change, it will remain in the phone.
So, it's not misinformation, you just need to read more carefully, there is no time restriction on updating your iPhone...
Yes. As many have ably demonstrated ad nauseum, there is no reason to let anything as irrelevant as facts/law get in the way of a great whine.
Yes, that is true. What I am calling into question are the claims of illegality.
Thank you! I take it I am reviewing the right material?
And by "bricking" your phone there is none.
This is not a case where Apple transmitted something with the sole purpose of disabling your phone (similar to what the US cable companies wanted to do in the 80's to cripple people who hacked their boxes), but instead, you as an user hacking your phone and then allowing Apple to install software that expects the phone to be in a particular state (not hacked) when the update is sent.
It's not their (Apple's) fault that we, as users, opted to hack our iPhones, now is it. And they did give everyone ample warning of what might happen, now didn't they.
Makes me wonder if you had read all the posts... First of all, it's the .m4a files that still works, and for it to work, you have to have iTunes 7.4.2, and you also have to assign them to your contacts first before you update to 1.1.1
after the update, you cannot go and check if your ringtone still shows up in the list, if you do, it will revert back to default. As long as you don't click on the ringtone to change, it will remain in the phone.
So, it's not misinformation, you just need to read more carefully, there is no time restriction on updating your iPhone...
I have been able to create and add new ringtones with the 1.1.1 update.
You need iTunes 7.4.0
Sadly Apple has come down on iPhone users with an iron fist. But even worse it's shocking to see so many users agreeing with Apple over this, for ****s sake people grow a back bone and stand up for your consumer rights.
The alert volume seems to be tied to the ringer volume. You can change the tone of the alert under sounds
I'm one of the faction that believes Apple is doing the right thing by keeping the iPhone locked down. (you can flame-on if you like).
My principal feeling is that Apple has the best chance of maintaining and growing a highly reliable experience on the iPhone. The more 3rd party stuff that goes on, the more Apple has to deploy resources to chase it's tail. These forums are evidence enough that most of the hacked phones and phones with poorly written 3rd party apps end up back at Apple. Now Apple has to deploy it's resources to chase this stuff. I'd rather have Apple developing new software for the iPhone than chasing a bunch of avoidable problems.
My principal feeling is that Apple has the best chance of maintaining and growing a highly reliable experience on the iPhone. The more 3rd party stuff that goes on, the more Apple has to deploy resources to chase it's tail. These forums are evidence enough that most of the hacked phones and phones with poorly written 3rd party apps end up back at Apple. Now Apple has to deploy it's resources to chase this stuff. I'd rather have Apple developing new software for the iPhone than chasing a bunch of avoidable problems.
It is not a crime to explore and simply have 'fun' with the software or hardware you have paid hard earned money for this is NOT a crime and and users who want to try and unlock their phones should not be penalized just because O2 or AT&T want a monopoly that ties people into a long and expensive contract for months.