Why? Do you have any reason at all that the Silverthorne is suitable for an iPhone, or an improvement to the ARM processor that it is using now?
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iPhone, iPod Touch SDK Details March 6th
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Why? Do you have any reason at all that the Silverthorne is suitable for an iPhone, or an improvement to the ARM processor that it is using now?
I see (and respect) what you're saying, but something tells me this will be a little different. Honestly, I probably don't have any idea what I'm talking about, but it sounds as though Apple is going to have to do some quality control on these applications (to make sure they're void of any destructive coding) before they allow developers' apps to be hosted (on what I'm assuming will be iTunes). This could possibly allow Apple to charge for each individual application, regardless on whether or not the developer originally wanted the app to be free.
Mind you, of course I hope I'm wrong, because obviously I'd rather the apps be free
There is no way Apple is going to QA every little app that gets written. They don't do it for OSX now and it's much more important than whether someone's phone or ipod crashes.
You are completely right and I am completely wrong. There is no way in hell they would ever even imagine charging for an application for their cash cow. I apologize profusely for the overwhelmingly asinine assumption I have made.
development costs
Don't actually know the answer to what I'm going to ask here, but how is this development different from what is done with Dashboard? I can understand why you wouldn't want malicious code on your phone, so I'd want the apps checked out, but I'd also want to know that it wasn't going to add significant cost to the app, over and above what the developer wanted to charge.
Don't actually know the answer to what I'm going to ask here, but how is this development different from what is done with Dashboard? I can understand why you wouldn't want malicious code on your phone, so I'd want the apps checked out, but I'd also want to know that it wasn't going to add significant cost to the app, over and above what the developer wanted to charge.
All I have is anecdotal data. I would say everyone uses a web browser. Camino/FF are both free. If you only use Safari, well that started with KHTML (now Webkit) which is also free.
Quicksilver I use all the time. It's how I launch anything.
Adium is the only chat app worth using because it supports all protocols.
Neooffice for documents.
VLC is easily the best video player on any platform, since it'll play just about any video codec you can find.
Handbrake for ripping DVDs to play on the computer, ATV, iPod, iTouch, etc...
The only software that I use regularly that I had to pay for was VMware fusion. I guess you could argue that since I mainly use xcode all day that I paid for that when I bought osx, but the back end for xcode is gcc, again free.
I'm not opposed to paying for software (I was just pricing a new server at work with 100k of software on it lol), but lots of things are considered commodities now that people write for fun, practice, whatever and release them for free.
That was the basis for the post in which you responded to in the first place. You *did* read the quote to which I was responding, right?
Apple says this for the software page where you can download widgets, etc...
"Apple is providing links to these applications as a courtesy, and makes no representations regarding the applications or any information related thereto. Any questions, complaints or claims regarding the applications must be directed to the appropriate software vendor."
So they are just acting a link aggregator. They aren't doing any QA or vetting of the application. I'm sure if someone posted an app that was truly malicious they would remove it after complaints, but I wouldn't depend on them to say if an application was 'good' or not.
Only 3 people wishing for Lotus Notes/Domino enterprise?
I am guessing that IBM was one of the developers that were given early access to the SDK. I really want (need?) this so that I can say good-bye to the blackberry. Two things that the so-called IT-types say that the iPhone lack are the password protected access to the device and remote delete. I bet that these will be provided by Apple in connection with the enterprise roll-out. Also, they need to add the bcc: feature along with a search capability.
I am guessing that IBM was one of the developers that were given early access to the SDK. I really want (need?) this so that I can say good-bye to the blackberry. Two things that the so-called IT-types say that the iPhone lack are the password protected access to the device and remote delete. I bet that these will be provided by Apple in connection with the enterprise roll-out. Also, they need to add the bcc:
feature along with a search capability.I did and I still don't see them QAing every app. First, QA is expensive. Second, that puts the responsibility on Apple when the app doesn't work as advertised. I can't imagine the legal issues that they'll face if they are taking 3rd party apps, QAing them, charging for that QA, and then missing a bug. Who is at fault in that scenario? Apple? 3rd party developer? I see this whole thing ending up the way widgets or other 3rd party software is pimped on Apples site. If they attempt to add an Apple tax to every 3rd party that gets written they are going to make the jailbroken phones even more popular to user and developers.
It will work great as a sonic screwdriver too !!
Also in the works is funtionallity as a tricorder, DHD, light saber, palm foleo (oh wait, that's only fiction and no science), and elements 1-5.
Now lets just cross our fingers that, when coupled with a bluetooth headset, it doesn't turn us all into cylons.
Keep in mind that Apple isn't the only major corporation that needs to "pitch in" for funding quality control. These applications are going on an AT&T based phone. On one hand, I agree that Apple and/or AT&T isn't going to want to take legal responsibility if something were to happen because of a 3rd party app, but on the other hand, Apple and AT&T are going to want to make sure that their new "golden child" (aka the iPhone) isn't going to malfunction because of bad code.
And, while we're at it, yeah, jailbroken phones are probably still going to remain popular, but not to a majority of iPhone owners. Remember that the majority of (regular) consumers probably don't even know what "jailbreaking" an iPhone means. The majority of consumers will have no problem paying a couple/few bucks for their "apple phone" applications.
Apple, tends to do things the right way... I am dissapointed that the sdk hasn't ALREADY been released, however I applaud apple on at least TRYING to do it right the first time even if it means delaying further....
I refuse to jailbreak my phone, it's still a virgin phone lol
I refuse to jailbreak my phone, it's still a virgin phone lol
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so how long before we actually have these apps on our phones?
so how long before we actually have these apps on our phones?
Please, calm down and look !
Hi,
Why so many people think Apple will charge for every apps ? Do they charge for iphone WebApps ? look at the whole directory: well done, nothing is charged to any one ! Everything gets promoted ! So, What will Apple tell us on march 6th ?
Welcome word
SDK is officially announced
SDK will be available in beta form
Final release for the next Apple WWDC this summer
First few apps shown: Lotus Notes Support, Exchange support
Those two will be sold thru the iTunes Store
That brings us to the distribution model (iTunes)
Free apps
Paid Apps
All apps will need to qualify
Upgrade to newer version very easy to "deploy" (look at the invitation: Software Updates)
And, for those who think Apple won't let any body crash the iPhone... they should look at themselves... I'm sure quite a few people had to reboot their device quite a few times to make things works fine after weird behavior of the phone... and there is not even a single third party app on the iphone for this to happen... so this is a bad argument... that Apple no longer use anyway !
Come on ! They want to make this a plateform, a big one, a serious one. They'll open things up... If you thing the iPhone was big last year, wait t'ill you see what will be the iphone landscape in the next few months with all those apps...
My 2 cents worth opinion.
Hi,
Why so many people think Apple will charge for every apps ? Do they charge for iphone WebApps ? look at the whole directory: well done, nothing is charged to any one ! Everything gets promoted ! So, What will Apple tell us on march 6th ?
Welcome word
SDK is officially announced
SDK will be available in beta form
Final release for the next Apple WWDC this summer
First few apps shown: Lotus Notes Support, Exchange support
Those two will be sold thru the iTunes Store
That brings us to the distribution model (iTunes)
Free apps
Paid Apps
All apps will need to qualify
Upgrade to newer version very easy to "deploy" (look at the invitation: Software Updates)
And, for those who think Apple won't let any body crash the iPhone... they should look at themselves... I'm sure quite a few people had to reboot their device quite a few times to make things works fine after weird behavior of the phone... and there is not even a single third party app on the iphone for this to happen... so this is a bad argument... that Apple no longer use anyway !
Come on ! They want to make this a plateform, a big one, a serious one. They'll open things up... If you thing the iPhone was big last year, wait t'ill you see what will be the iphone landscape in the next few months with all those apps...
My 2 cents worth opinion.
We WILL be paying for apps... you'll be able to buy them through iTunes. We might even see a iTunes update then too.
well, apple offers plenty of 3rd party apps, for leopard, and they are mostly all free, and the free ones arent just P.O.S's either...
so i believe most will be free, just like on leopard
so i believe most will be free, just like on leopard
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Why am I the only one posting from a iPhone?
Why am I the only one posting from a iPhone?
They offer free "demo" apps or watered down version of the real app, but you still have to pay for the real thing
That came out wrong. What I meant was if Apple charged for the Apps, like the iPod Touch update did, it would not be cool. I have To admit that what I said about the developers was harsh. I just hope that we are able to get tons of cool apps. What would burst my bubble was if Apple held back a ton of cool apps.
The shiny apple on the back of the iPhone is actually a touch sensitive pad and will let us activate copy and paste.