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The only reason I have an android phone is because I'm on Republic Wireless, and I'll save around $2630 over 2 years for doing so. But I hate my phone. It took me 3 months to finally tweak the interface to where it's livable, but as soon as I can afford it, I'm jumping back on the iPhone bandwagon. The iOS experience is just so much more seamless and effortless, in my opinion.

Maybe I sound like an old man because I'm done tinkering, like some of the other commenters have said. But I have more important things to do than fix something that shouldn't have been broken to begin with.

what phone? name one thing broken? and how in the hell did it take you 3 months?
 
Co-worker switched to Galaxy S4 and hates it. They like the screen but does not like how Android operates and battery life is terrible. He is switching back to Apple.
Galaxy S4? You probably meant to say Galaxy S5.

A typical fanboy story who knows nothing besides his iPhone.

Liar
 
Maybe I sound like an old man because I'm done tinkering, like some of the other commenters have said. But I have more important things to do than fix something that shouldn't have been broken to begin with.

I don't understand those "tinkering", "fix something that shouldn't have been broken" about Android.

What it is broken? Why you have to be tinkering?

My wife, my father, my brother, my brother's wife. They all have Androids and none of them have any problem and use their phones for all they need. And they are the most technological illiterates I know
 
That's a major reason why apple has DRM on the videos it sells on itunes and would still have DRM on music if it was possible.

You mean the DRM the record companies insisted on keeping, yet Jobs was able to get a deal of iTunes+ (no DRM) songs because he was, you know, Steve Jobs? You mean the videos with the DRM that the studios insist of keeping yet Jobs said on D that he was unhappy with it yet that's the way it is due to the studios? I wonder where people get their information from.
 
You mean the DRM the record companies insisted on keeping, yet Jobs was able to get a deal of iTunes+ (no DRM) songs because he was, you know, Steve Jobs? You mean the videos with the DRM that the studios insist of keeping yet Jobs said on D that he was unhappy with it yet that's the way it is due to the studios? I wonder where people get their information from.

The same people that get their FUD about Android/Google/Samsung/Apple/Amazon/HTC

Clearly there's a website somewhere you can just cut/paste any crap you want and post it here as if it's fact.
 
The day the Android profit share comes close to the iOS profit share, I'll worry. But till then it's all smooth sailing. Just apple doing what they do best, selling less but making the most profits.
 
Some, yes, but a lower % of android owners are in that rabid fan club than the % of iPhone owners who are in the rabid iPhone fan club.

The rabid Android fans make a lot more noise. Just read the comments on Engadget, The Verge, Gizmodo, CNET.....MacRumors. Heck, check the upvotes on any comment on this thread that is Android-positive.

They're the Ron Paul crazies of the tech world. Loud and proud.

And some, apparently, paid by Samsung. :rolleyes:
 
Shenanigans. Your contract was up on a phone half a year old? Oh, you bought it unlocked and then resold it? Okay, whatever you say.

It's not that far-fetched. I switched from an iPhone 5 to an N4. I gave the 5 to my wife. We alternate who gets the subsidized upgrade (that is, which line gets it -- I always get the new phone ;)). But I bought the N4 outright anyway, since it's cheap.
 
Android market share is not as important when you start splitting the Android phone makers into individual companies. Each company tends to make much less profit and sells less phones the Apple does.

But for some reason they like to add the 200+ phone makers into one entity that use Android. Unless one company makes/uses Android don't see the point of using it as any market share to begin with.

Thanks for making my point.
 
The day the Android profit share comes close to the iOS profit share, I'll worry. But till then it's all smooth sailing. Just apple doing what they do best, selling less but making the most profits.

As a customer - I could care only a little less about how much money a company makes off me and others as a means to "celebrate." That's pretty much backwards thinking. You wouldn't "celebrate" a gas company for making record profits off of you heating your home. No one hear celebrates the phone companies for what they charge for minutes and especially data.

Yes - if you're a stock holder you have vested interest. Otherwise - as long as the product you like is available and supported - "profit" is meaningless to the customer.
 
I agree. Why this graph does not show data for the prior years so we can see the trend? Here is why: iOS market share has been shrinking for some time now. Why would it suddenly expand? Apple is stagnant, lazy and lacking leadership. Stock price is an indicator.

And I am sorry too.

You couldn't be more wrong. This chart is U.S. smartphone marketshare and in the U.S., Android is the one that has been shrinking for some time now while iOS has grown. In fact, this chart is waaay too generous to Android. Most statistics show iOS already to have overtaken Android. For the last few quarters, Android has been on a pretty dramatic downward spiral.

Android is going to have to do something to prevent iOS from taking over worldwide in the future as well because what's happening in the U.S. is a signal of things to come elsewhere as Apple gets on more carriers, pricing gaps decrease, and the number of people switching from feature phones (that Android growth thrives on) decreases.
 
I think you missed his (and my point).

As a customer (not stockholder) why do I care if the company makes record profits?

As a customer, and not a stockholder, I do care that a company makes profits if I like using the stuff they put out. Companies which do not make profits tend to go bankrupt so I won't be able to use their products any longer. And I don't think I missed his point. He asked why should he care that Apple is making profits but he generalised to "customer" instead of asking in first person.
 
This reads more like wishful thinking rather than a proper analysis.

Especially if the iOS software and hardware remains stagnant. People may say they plan on switching to iPhone now - but that may change at any point, if the next-gen iPhone does not stay competitive to Android flagships.

You DO realize the group of us on here who drool over OS updates, complain about how stagnant iOS has become and argue about how useful a widget is are a VERY small minority right? The general public has no idea what version of iOS or Android their phone is on, obsess over widgets and custom launchers and all that stuff. The vast majority of iPhone users like it because of simple things like iMessage, integration with iTunes or just because they like the earbuds. They arent sitting their stressing because they dont have widgets or power control access to quickly turn on their bluetooth. They certainly arent going to switch to Android for widgets and custom launchers or just because the new version of iOS looks like the last one. Try thinking like an average person and not a tech nerd.
 
I believe more people are likely to pick the iPhone if Android does not work for them. Windows 8 phone are late to the game as well as Blackberry who until just recently have made a a true keyless smart phone.

You can hope/believe that all you want. The fact is that when WindowsCE/Palm/Blackberry/Symbian all cratered the leading high end smartphone OS alternative, iOS , did not pick up most of the slack. Android did (which was trailing. ) This analysis is structured so that exactly the opposite happens over the next 2-3 years. In short, those same assumptions wouldn't have worked 2-3 years ago to project into the present. There is little evidence that they will work projecting forward from here also.



Apple already has lower pice point phones starting at the 4 & 4S starting at $0.00. That helps compete with the other cheaper phones.

Those phone do not cost $0.00. They are subsidized in an opaque way to make them appear low cost but are not. If users are made more aware of the costs (e.g., T-mobile seperated payment plan), those phones higher price will increasingly be a factor.

Furthermore the smartphone market likely going to start to mature over the next 2-3 years. A fast enough phone with a good enough screen will start to come done. (for example the Nexus 4 $299 unlocked model. ). The iPhone4 doesn't compete with that at all. Apple may come up with a more cost effective entry but remains to be seen just how well it is going to do.





But Android uses are more likely to switch to the iPhone while existing iPhone users are sticking with Apples platform, thats where a lot of this growth is coming from.

There is no growth in people just replacing phones. More folks coming into the smartphone market is where grow comes from. People replacing phone is just reshuffling the deck chairs. That's what this analysis shows. In a no-to-low growth market where folks are just reshuffling the deck chairs Apple's higher loyalty rate wins ( presuming competitors can't do any improvements to customer satisfaction.) In its own universe that is a believable outcome. It is just that reality likely isn't going to match that. Either in the no-to-low growth or in the incompetent competition factors.
 
The same people that get their FUD about Android/Google/Samsung/Apple/Amazon/HTC

Clearly there's a website somewhere you can just cut/paste any crap you want and post it here as if it's fact.

Better then most people who make things off the top of their head with nothing to back it up. As long as they can look at multiple sources or the validity of the data. As far as I remember Apple was detrimental at getting DRM removed in its music. perhaps it was harder to do it for the movie industry and they needed to offer it DRM or not.
 
The rabid Android fans make a lot more noise. Just read the comments on Engadget, The Verge, Gizmodo, CNET.....MacRumors. Heck, check the upvotes on any comment on this thread that is Android-positive.

They're the Ron Paul crazies of the tech world. Loud and proud.

And some, apparently, paid by Samsung. :rolleyes:

don't insult Ron Paul. he was America's last hope. now you are all SOL
 
I've been using an iPhone for around 5 years. It's great, but I'm bored. I wanted to use an OS that wasn't sandboxed, but I didn't want to use whacky flavors of android. The Nexus is a pure android experience. It's very cool, although there is loads I like about iOS.

I've often wanted to switch momentarily just to be sure I wasn't regurgitating the same old arguments of other phone platforms. I think each platform has its benefits. If it wasn't so expensive and cumbersome I would carry multiple phones just to experience each flavor of OS
 
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