Yes it did but it was also a totally different looking design after 3 years of the same
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Yes but if Touch ID was that important to users then sales would have came to a grinding stop. Most people love Face ID.
In fact Face ID is more intuitive than Touch ID. Example: years ago I bought my grandma an iPad 6. She could NEVER get the hang of registering Touch ID. She’d literally kept pressing in the button, which would reset the whole process. After 10 minutes of watching this disaster I finally took her finger and placed it for her (and that took another 5 minutes). Every time I visited her after, she always used the on-screen passcode.
Fast forward to this past Xmas. iPad Pro. Here grandma, move your head in a circle. Again. Ok great now swipe up.
Now she never uses the on screen passcode.
I am not denying that there’s a part of the market that prefers Touch ID. Just like there’s a part of the market that wants a tiny phone. It’s just that the vast majority of the market doesn’t.
If they could only release an SE Mini, both my wife and my mom would be happy. They want a small iphone without any bells and whistles, using the SE-platform for Mini-models makes sense in my eyes at least.
Touch ID is one process
Face ID is two processes
What I’m saying is in regards to the previous post is because the design of the iPhone stayed the same for 3 years & then they launched a new design then that was a big factor in selling more
They won’t do it because the demand is not enough for them to produce a mobile like that anymore
Touch ID is also 2 processes. I know because my kitchen 2017 Pro has Touch ID and and I’m itching to upgrade because Touch ID when I’m cooking is borderline useless.
iPhone X and iPhone 8?
I know what you mean. The 5g band radiation is a lot hotter compared to LTE one. It will cook the brains causing a headache and sweating. This was hunting me for months. But then apple came with the solution in the form of this grey rounded edged piece of cloth. Wiping the slate clean of any sweat. And the headache was gone.
with Touch ID you press the button
With Face ID you double press the button & you still have to look at it
So that makes it a longer process because there are more steps involved
what button?
When I take the phone out of my pocket I intend to use it. Face ID and raise to wake is so fast that it’s literally instant. It’s only 1 swiping motion.
so how do you use Apple Pay then is that one swiping motion.
My comment was actually based on the iPhone 8 & plus v iPhone x
I use Apple Pay on my Apple Watch.
Apple Pay on my iPhone SE 1 vs my iPhone X was identical. I still had to look at my screen to make sure I had the right card selected. In fact Touch ID is an EXTRA step because I then have to rest my finger on the home button after selecting the card.
Again, if the Face ID was a worse or slower experience, it would have been taken out of the Pro products eons ago.
Right but it still takes longer on a phone because there are more steps involved.
It is a worse experience using Apple Pay & that’s a fact.
my comment was about Apple keeping the same design for 3 generations
I had an iPhone 5S with it at school, I pressed the home button and it never did bring me home so no thanks.
I just explained how Touch ID is an inferior experience with Apple Pay and is actually slower.
If Apple released the iPhone XR with Touch ID it would have flopped. So, no, I disagree. Face ID was novel when the X came out and is the preferred biometric security for most users.
Oh Jesus not this again.
Kill me with a spoon.
It’s probably psychosomatic.
We had a 5G tower put up locally a couple of years back. Lots of people complained about it, on their 4G phones no less, and of headaches. The phone company informed people at the second consultancy that the tower had no electronics in it yet so this was impossible.
And that’s how it goes.
Original SE had the same 2GB RAM as 6S.
The SE1 did match the then-flagship 6s in RAM and storage.
Off-topic: lol the first like shown on your post is by someone named Joe 😛
Anyway I want one for my dad and the price of a 16 is one I simply can’t afford. So I’m going to approach this like I did his iPad: see how a new device compares to a refurb premium but older model. I think for most people a refurb iPad Air is a way nicer device than the old school normal iPad so I gave him an older but indistinguishable from new iPad Air and he loves that thing. So we’re going to see how the new SE stacks up against a refurb 14 (Pro)! Perhaps not how the average Joe does it, but I think this is how the average Joe should approach it.
No way. Who is going to buy an iPhone 15 if the new SE has a far superior SoC (A16 Vs A18) and a much better price point? Sure, the ultra wide angle camera is useful sometimes, but I could perfectly live without it.
If the upcoming SE comes in an iPhone 14 shell instead of the iPhone 15 one, I’d bet it is coming with a notch. Then, would the Dynamic Island be enough to purchase a more expensive iPhone with an inferior SoC? Definitely not for me.
I honestly think that, if the upcoming SE 4, or iPhone 16e, comes with an A18 SoC, it is a given that it will come with 8GB of RAM (because it is part of the SoC) and will support Apple Intelligence. They are really eager to push this new feature/service onto Apple’s customers.
So, basically, I disagree with your point of view, but I’m not downvoting you, because we all have the right to express our opinions.
And the SE3 did as well, the iPhone 13 it was based off had an A15 with 4GB of RAM and the SE3 had the same 4GB of LPDDR4X memory.
Having both would be the best of both worlds. But even on the Pro models Apple is too stingy for that.
This is similar to how on the iPad it would be useful to have a camera (and Face ID) in both orientations, but Apple won't do it.
Well majority do use larger phones so. They won’t cater to a minority as much
Maybe catering to a minority is pretty important if you want to establish your product line as the defacto standard. So far there still was the SE2/3, which for many was "small enough". With that gone I figure a sizeable chunk of those users will - albeit with heavy heart - switch to an android phone that maybe isn't what they wish they'd get, but is at least usable for them in the way they have chosen and learned to use a phone for decades now.
Bottom line: yes, a "mini" won't sell as well. But it will sell well enough to make a profit, and it will widen iPhone market share one way or another.