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Your lack of knowledge doesn't change the fact that the color of the black/slate iPhone 5 is only shallow and every scuff you make (maybe still in the future) reveals a brighter aluminum color beneath it. Not so with the iPhone 5S and SE. The notion was, new designs introduce new problems and that has been true for both iPhones.
I am very aware of the underlying claims. But in my and many others experience with these devices the particular "problems" were massively over blown. So much so that people who push these "gates" come a cross as little more than rabble rousers.
 
As someone thats been interested in getting an Air 2 for a while please correct me if I'm wrong, but as I see it the new iPad Pro 9.7 looks like the the kinda spec I imagined the Air 2 would be upgraded too, it is over a year & a half old now! so what makes it "Pro" I can still get the Air 2 but slightly cheaper however the Ipad Pro will be £100 more expensive that it's previous price.
To me it looks like a way of rebadging the iPad update and charging more because it's "Pro". Good old Apple marketing once again.

Pretty much... the 9.7 iPad Pro is the iPad Air 3 we were expecting. I wish it would have just gone back to being iPad. The lineup would be a little less insulting at 7.9 iPad Mini; 9.7 iPad; 12.9 iPad Pro. Pricing is pricing and as we've noticed lately iPads have been going on sale a lot anyway.
 
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I'm done with these ridiculous Apple pre-orders. No release on when the preorder starts, then at 3:05am, the site still doesn't work, only the App Store app works, and no option for store pickup.

Let me know when we dont have to jump through these ridiculous hoops, Apple. You'd think if we have to wake up at an insane hour we could actually purchase the device the way we want.
 
Let me know when we dont have to jump through these ridiculous hoops, Apple.
Order now or show up at your local Apple store (or carrier store) and buy it. True, getting up at 3:00am can be a pain, but you don't have to do it now. The order process seems to be problem free right now
 
Order now or show up at your local Apple store (or carrier store) and buy it. True, getting up at 3:00am can be a pain, but you don't have to do it now. The order process seems to be problem free right now

The getting up at 3am is more annoying than anything else but not being able to order because UPS is a disaster in your neighborhood and you can't otherwise order is a problem.

Some information given out ahead of time would be nice, like 12:01 preorder on app 12:05-12:08 on web browser and UPS delivery only. Oh and you can't order to deliver to one of those UPS pickup sites either, Apple won't allow it, found that out with the watch
 
I am very aware of the underlying claims. But in my and many others experience with these devices the particular "problems" were massively over blown. So much so that people who push these "gates" come a cross as little more than rabble rousers.
Oh, come on! Have you ever tried to buy a used iPhone? I'm not talking about a **** storm on Twitter. I'm talking about scuffed iPhones in the wild. Aluminium is a softer material than steel and easier to scratch. Visible damages are a real problem to very many iPhone 5 owners.

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You would think apples website would know by your ISP address which region you are coming in at and process orders for the east coasters at midnight our time even though it's 9:00 out there. I've never liked that but it is what it is. Yeah I'll be dragging today as I couldn't fall back to sleep after 3:00 argh!!
 
I got my 9.7" iPad Pro through B&H photo. Don't have to pay sales tax that way. B&H is a great store to order from because they pack it well and are usually pretty quick.
 
As much as i want to pre-order, Apple will give me £260 in store for my iPhone 6, and i want to put that against the cost of the iPhone SE.
 
$1749 for 256gb iPad Pro in Aust. Apple have gone mad. I have a $500 Apple gift card and have been waiting for something to buy from Apple for years now. When I think what I can get for $1700+ and compare it to what Apple offers, I just can't do it. The iPad Pro still runs iOS for $1749. It's ridiculous.
 
When 6 sales stalled, Tim pointed out that over 30 per cent of users had stuck with 4" phones. Weeks later, we get the scrap-heap Frankenstein SE...part 5 and part 6, but belonging to neither. If this was well planned, it would have a design close to the 6. Or is Apple going to have a 7 alongside a 5 design with 7 internals?

The SE is a fudge, brought about by bad planning.

Or, y'know, it's a product that people asked Apple to make so they made it... People who wanted a 4" phone have repeatedly stated on this forum and others that the 5S is great, all it needs is the 6S internals and they'd have a sale. That's exactly what they have produced.

I'm not sure how this is a "scrap heap" design - I mean, what specifically makes it that? It has the internals of a 6S, so it's not that, which means it must be because the external chassis looks like a 5S, so I have to ask, what makes it "scrap heap" to stick with a design that clearly works instead of just making it look like the 6S (presumably, since you don't think the current phones are "scrap heap designs") just for the sake of it?
 
You would think apples website would know by your ISP address which region you are coming in at and process orders for the east coasters at midnight our time even though it's 9:00 out there. I've never liked that but it is what it is. Yeah I'll be dragging today as I couldn't fall back to sleep after 3:00 argh!!

The server you're routed to is geo IP based. That's almost always the case for big sites like Apple and Google.
 
Not replacing my Air 2 with a C$800/1,000/1,200 iPad Pro 9.7" Wifi. Especially if there's a chance that they surprise us with an A10X version in the fall.
 
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With the 7 coming out not too long from now, most are holding out and passing on the se.
This was just a way for apple to test the 4 inch market and possibly include it with future iphone releases as the "mini" inthe line up.
 
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You would think apples website would know by your ISP address which region you are coming in at and process orders for the east coasters at midnight our time even though it's 9:00 out there. I've never liked that but it is what it is. Yeah I'll be dragging today as I couldn't fall back to sleep after 3:00 argh!!

No, then east coasters would get the jump on everyone else and create an unfair advantage in Apples mind.

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I'm actually impressed with the SE. I didn't expect it to be so close to a 6s in specs. I might see about trading in my 4s and 5s and get an SE as my backup to my 6s Plus.
 
Ordered through Verizon at 12:15am and was the smoothest I've seen for an iPhone launch (normally Apple/carrier sites freak out/run slow). I could care less if it's due to lack of sales, just happy to finally get a non-gimped 4-inch upgrade from the 5S.
 
Ordered Space Gray 256 GB + Cellular at 12:04AM via the app. Have order number already, to be delivered 3/31.
This was going to be me... only hangup was when they announced "only" 2GB ram. Shouldn't be a problem for now, but I wonder how that will affect future, more powerful apps coming down the line.

I'll think it over - maybe order one this weekend.
 
So, if I go to the Apple Store and give back a working iPhone 5S in perfect conditions do I still get the $200 in credit?
 
Oh and you can't order to deliver to one of those UPS pickup sites either, Apple won't allow it, found that out with the watch

I had the Link Bracelet Apple Watch held at a UPS facility. I just called UPS after I got the shipping notification, and it was there the next morning at their local hub. It was marked high value and held somewhere special, but it was not hard to do at all. You can do it for free via UPS MyChoice too.
 
Wife ordered a Space Gray iPad Pro 9.7 with LTE for me this morning at breakfast (7 AM EST). Delivery by March 28! Already have a pending trade-in with Gazelle for my iPad Air 64.

One note for those of you who want to use Verizon as your cellular carrier with your new iPad. Remember, the Apple SIM that comes included only works with certain carriers, but NOT VERIZON.

https://www.apple.com/ipad/apple-sim/

If you want to use Verizon, during checkout when you get to the Accessories page, at the very bottom of the page is a check box to include a FREE SIM card that will work with Verizon. Check that box to receive a Verizon SIM.
 
If Steve Jobs was still alive, we would have moved on to another form factor by now. Rehashing the same thing year after year is going to put Apple out of business. Just because people want something doesn't mean it's good for them. Steve Job knew this and knew what you wanted before you even wanted it.
 
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