I completely agree with you, but I had to write that so that I wouldn't get bombarded with replies from those people who expected more lol
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iPhone SE Reviews: Blazingly Fast With Impressive Battery Life
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I completely agree with you, but I had to write that so that I wouldn't get bombarded with replies from those people who expected more lol
I love when someone thinks they have more knowledge about market trends than a ludicrously profitable giant corporation with dozens, if not hundreds of people devoted solely to researching and analyzing market data.
Did you ever think that this just might have been an intentional move? Look at it this way: They got a huge segment of consumers to move to bigger phones, and now they'll have a sizable portion of those early adopters to move back to a smaller size. All the while they provided a nice upgrade route for folks who didn't upgrade to 6/6S AND created a lower price point to buy into the Apple ecosystem. AND they're spacing it out far enough from the new "flagship" model to spur tons of sales for that model as well. Seems pretty well thought out to me, actually.
At risk of starting WW3, while in essence I agree Steve Jobs smaller can be better on phones, with 4 inches having ideal thumb reach position without being fully extended or flexed (like mine on the 6s+) as well as having a better grip than larger phones, I might worry about repetitive strain injury using one finger to regularly perform tasks, I regularly shift between two hands and multiple positions on the larger phone. To each his own.
Apple stated in their event that they sold 30 million 4" phones last year. The only 4" phone they had for sale last year was the 5s. So, we know exactly how many.
Or different people have different needs. I bought the 6s thinking that Apple would never make another four inch phone. If I had known I would have waited as I hate big phones and always have. Others love their big phones. It is possible for two Apple fans to have completely differing views on the size of phone they want. We don't share a hive mind.
Yes it's true that Apple have lost sight of all the people using the original stereo in their 20+ year old Citroens. That will undoubtedly cause a terrible kerfuffle at the iPhone 7 launch.
Oh wait, do they even know what a Citroen is in America? Perhaps some kind of obscure European citrus fruit?
The BEST iPhone I've ever owned was the iPhone 5 on iOS 6.1.2. The worst iPhone I've ever owned is my iPhone 6. The stutter, lag and general terrible performance is unacceptable. It is THE reason I left Android.
On one hand I'd love the SE, on the other, I know the 7 will be even more powerful. TBH, for a phone, smaller is better. Battery life is my primary concern.
On one hand I'd love the SE, on the other, I know the 7 will be even more powerful. TBH, for a phone, smaller is better. Battery life is my primary concern.
Apple has more than one customer, you know. With different pocket sizes, and with different amounts of cash in their pockets.
I think what's so surprising with the iPhone SE is that it's so very unApple. Very rarely do they release products with this kind of price/performance ratio. I'm still holding onto my 5S, and was planning on the 7 in the fall, but this is pretty tempting...
Make no mistake, the 5S is still a fast phone, even now with iOS 9.3. I can't imagine mine rocking an A9 processor, so I'll take their word that it's blazing fast.
It's a little disappointing that the front camera still has 1.2MP. It would have been nice if they bumped it to 5MP or even 3MP. But 12MP on the back is a sizable increase from the 5S. The only real pressing issue for me to upgrade from my 5S is the dust collecting under my lens. It's really, really annoying. I've already had it blown out once, and dust just keeps coming back. I'm not too keen on the iPhone SE if this problem still exists...
Make no mistake, the 5S is still a fast phone, even now with iOS 9.3. I can't imagine mine rocking an A9 processor, so I'll take their word that it's blazing fast.
It's a little disappointing that the front camera still has 1.2MP. It would have been nice if they bumped it to 5MP or even 3MP. But 12MP on the back is a sizable increase from the 5S. The only real pressing issue for me to upgrade from my 5S is the dust collecting under my lens. It's really, really annoying. I've already had it blown out once, and dust just keeps coming back. I'm not too keen on the iPhone SE if this problem still exists...
It's a different size with a $200 price difference, I don't think that is comparable.
Err yeah, they do, given that Citroen is 1 of the 13 European car manufactures supporting CarPlay compared to the grand total of 5 American car manufactures involved in the program and the remaining 6 are based in Asia, CarPlay would've been dead in the water if European brands hadn't supported it
http://www.apple.com/ios/carplay/available-models/
Looks like a great device but again with the 16gb storage? So perplexing with how cheap memory has gotten that apple doesn't get to at least 32gb. Would be nice if it had the better front facing camera, 3d touch, and image stabilization but kind of minor for the price and performance. A design with reduced bezels would have been nice as well but definitely a market for this device as a lot of people still like smaller handsets.
Biggest issue is if you don't live in the U.S. its not such a good deal. 16 gb is $579 64 gb $709 Canadian. No thanks
Biggest issue is if you don't live in the U.S. its not such a good deal. 16 gb is $579 64 gb $709 Canadian. No thanks
$709 = $534 US. Yeah, it's $34 more but that's not so much.
Blame the currency being weak, not Apple.
$709 = $534 US. Yeah, it's $34 more but that's not so much.
Blame the currency being weak, not Apple.
It's still $34 plus tax I'd rather have in my pocket. Not blaming Apple just saying it's not really a great deal for an off contract phone in most non US countries.
Anyone know what happened to the 5S? No longer on the apple.ca site anyway.
Coke -> New Coke -> Classic Coke
iPhone 5 -> iPhone 6 -> iPhone SE
I've been around in this forums when it became harder and harder to defend hand-sized phones against the ever louder scream for phablets. The notion was the (Android) market had spoken and it demanded bigger screens. Smaller screens were considered to be old and outdated and Apple would be doomed if it would stick to them. And now here we are, the company forecasts it's first no-growth quarter and rushes out an upgraded iPhone 5s successor. And suddenly the old design is beautiful again, because all what came after was even worse.
Back to the taste of Classic Coke!
iPhone 5 -> iPhone 6 -> iPhone SE
I've been around in this forums when it became harder and harder to defend hand-sized phones against the ever louder scream for phablets. The notion was the (Android) market had spoken and it demanded bigger screens. Smaller screens were considered to be old and outdated and Apple would be doomed if it would stick to them. And now here we are, the company forecasts it's first no-growth quarter and rushes out an upgraded iPhone 5s successor. And suddenly the old design is beautiful again, because all what came after was even worse.
Back to the taste of Classic Coke!
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Big difference is Apple will still sell many 5.5 4.7" phones probably more than the SE. New Coke fell off the face of the earth.
Honestly this is the perfect set up for any phone manufacturer there are customers who like each different size for different reasons.
Personally 5.5 (especially the iphone with its large bezels) is to big to have in my pockets comfortably. Currently find my 5s nice in the pocket but wanting a larger display. I still find that 4.7 - 5 is the Goldilocks size phone for me but Apple needs to shrink the bezels to make it the perfect size. Throw in an amoled screen and let the party begin.
Don't you mean 2 gigs of ram?
New Coke was sold and advertised alongside with Classic Coke for quite some time before it vanished completely. No difference so far.
A more apt comparison would be super-compact eco-friendly cars -->big gas guzzlers--> super-compact? Time will tell.
One thing that confuses people is the difference between the size of the battery (which is fundamentally meaningless) and how long that battery runs the phone (which is the key issue). The GS7 has a 3,000 mah sized battery. The iPhone 6s has a 1,715 mah phone. But iOS and the hardware run so much more efficiently that the iPhone 6s runs longer. Apple's ability to run longer on a much smaller battery is just a huge advantage. Android phones just stay competitive by using much bigger batteries (which means added weight and the batteries use up space in the phones, which is generally the initial reason why Androids went with the larger screens, they needed room for bigger batteries).
Another thing is that a slower processor combined with a bigger battery can result in great battery life. I have a BBRY Z30. It has a largish battery, 2,880. And since it has an older and slower processor, it is truly a "two day" phone. I can take it off the charger in the morning on Tuesday and I do NOT need to charge it on Wednesday night. It is only sometime on Thursday that I will run out. Impossible to use the phone up in one day. But the processor is about 80% slower than what is in my iPhone 6S.