Yes, if they wanted to not increase the battery, not add the second speaker, not improve the taptic engine, etc. As evidenced by the tremendous sales, most people love the changes.
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iPhone SE Unlikely to Receive Refresh in Early 2017
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Yes, if they wanted to not increase the battery, not add the second speaker, not improve the taptic engine, etc. As evidenced by the tremendous sales, most people love the changes.
I'm curious as to what people think they could really do to refresh it, a new physical design seems unlikely and an internal speed bump would be uninteresting to the mass market.
It would be interesting to see the current 6/6s/7 form factor downsized for the SE when the iPhone 8 new design comes out though, it'd look kind of cute.
It would be interesting to see the current 6/6s/7 form factor downsized for the SE when the iPhone 8 new design comes out though, it'd look kind of cute.
Remember way back in 2009 when the iPhone 3G / 3GS was considered too large by many and there was so many rumours of a iPhone NANO? Who'd of thought that years later that there would be obese phones like the 7+. I truly hate huge phones but hey, different folks, different strokes.
It takes courage to sell some phones with a headphone jack whilst removing it from other phones..
If they didn't change the design there are still a few changes which they could make. I'm an owner of iPhone SE and love it but
1. Splash/Water resistant
2. Improve the Touch ID - 6S or 7 have the better version
3. Peek and Pop on iOS
4. Better FaceTime camera
5. Same camera as iPhone 7
6. The most current A? processor
7. More RAM
8. Different storage sizes.
These might sound trivial and in essence just shrinking the iPhone 7 into the SE but most SE owners would be happy with that because what they love about the SE is the size. And Apple really shouldn't forget there is a huge market of iPhone buyers that don't want an iPhone any bigger than the SE.
iChrist
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And when they do refresh it, there will be a minor speed bump and removal of the headphone jack. So maybe it's a good thing for now.
I have the SE and I love it. However I do food delivery all day so most of the time I'm in my car driving and the small screen really doesn't suite it, but it works. Part of me wants to upgrade to iPhone 7, but I just love using the SE so much.
ibookg409
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The plus is too big for my taste, my SE is all banged up too, screen replaced once by Apple, has dents and scratches, also has a magnet stuck to the back of it lol.
ibookg409
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Mona Lisa is also "dated", so what? ;-) If you develop something close to perfection, there's not much to change. Of course, you can do changes for the sake of changes, or pretend to build "new stuff" by changing irrelevant details, or make a big change and go further from, rather than closer to, that perfection.
Why would I need a thinner phone? Should a phone bend / break if you sit on it in your pocket? Or you want to use it to cut cheese if you forget your knife? I prefer more battery life if the rest of electronics frees some space due to miniaturization. As far as ceramics is concerned, yeah, looks hipster enough, but it is also very practical in case you happen to drop the phone ;-)
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Sorry , but the 4 inch is dead in the water.
No way there will be a real flagship 4 inch ever again. 4 inch will be a "budget" iPhone .
Perhaps another update with 3D Touch and a better soc in the same format as the se.
Next year the physical home button in the bezel will be gone on the 5.5 inch/plus format, and perhaps the year after the 4.7 will drop the physical home button , has oled and smaller bezels, so it will be physically near the size of a 4 inch se.
That' s all.
Scheldon
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Why not? Apple plain negotiating the price of components, in next 6 months the prices drop again. The existence of SE with the same CPU from iPhone 6s is much more difficult and Apple make it.
Possibilities :
1) next ""SE""(probably they change the name) they use The same hardware off iPhone 8 and unveiling together (same iPhone in 3 sizes with 100 dollars difference), this is less probably.
2) they unveiling separate from iPhone 8/7s/10 whatever they call, and the new SE is the 6s with some things form 7 (the new colors are probability around 100% )
Lol it's not like you have anywhere else to turn.
sudo1996
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Maybe they've decided that they can make more profit with less revenue by not doing any R&D. Their profit margins for Macs have to be increasing as they get older since they're selling old parts for the price of new ones, right?
Scheldon
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Well, if you combine the sales from Mac mini and ipod you don't have the sales of SE, probably you don't have half of the sales.
robeddie
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Been said many times, but this is the disease that is going to destroy apple, the need to change for the sake of change, so shallow consumers can feel they have something 'new', 'trendy', even if its not really better or more useful
tech4all
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What some call "whining" I call stating your dissatisfaction about something. This is a forum after all. If they don't agree with the "whining" fine, that's their opinion. But if they didn't speak up, you wouldn't get changes. Well that and voting with your wallet. Money is like oxygen to corporations, take it away and they'll have to react.
I'm waiting for a Mac mini for basic stuff myself.
pat500000
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Yup. "whining" is a statement of dissatisfaction....and rightly so. Me too. I don't get those people who tells us to "stop whining." It is indeed a forum.
JesterJJZ
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It's Apple's best phone if you ask me. And it has a headphone jack. Hope they keep it going. I totally don't mind having it be a generation behind but in this smaller form factor plus a headphone jack.
Seems like Apple's complacency and greed is finally catching up to them and even their biggest fans are starting to turn away.
iOS updates that offer up more bugs then they do new and useful features. iPhone 7 keynote that is more likely to get you to stop watching the presentation then it does to get you to pre order. A "new" MacBook Pro exterior with old hardware inside, topped off by a much higher price tag and the necessity to purchase multiple $25-50 adapters just to get the same functionality of last years MacBook Pro with the same guts, lower price and didn't need a series of adapters. That's before we even get into dwindling market share across the board.
Their response to this? Instead of trying harder to bring a product to market that excites people, which is what got them to this level of success to begin with, is to give up completely and attempt to leverage the little bit of interest that still remains on a small number of products at the high end.
It almost feels like the boardroom talks went from "ok guys, what can we put out there that people will love?" to "ok guys, how can we maintain our margins on these old products?"
iOS updates that offer up more bugs then they do new and useful features. iPhone 7 keynote that is more likely to get you to stop watching the presentation then it does to get you to pre order. A "new" MacBook Pro exterior with old hardware inside, topped off by a much higher price tag and the necessity to purchase multiple $25-50 adapters just to get the same functionality of last years MacBook Pro with the same guts, lower price and didn't need a series of adapters. That's before we even get into dwindling market share across the board.
Their response to this? Instead of trying harder to bring a product to market that excites people, which is what got them to this level of success to begin with, is to give up completely and attempt to leverage the little bit of interest that still remains on a small number of products at the high end.
It almost feels like the boardroom talks went from "ok guys, what can we put out there that people will love?" to "ok guys, how can we maintain our margins on these old products?"
Carlanga
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they are mostly always reducing, but again this a SE model it doesn't need all the bells and whistles.