Apple "promised" iPhone in June. What is your evidence that Apple will not deliver that? Even this latest "dire" rumor says late June.
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Apple "promised" iPhone in June. What is your evidence that Apple will not deliver that? Even this latest "dire" rumor says late June.
It's not speculation, it's precisely what Apple said in their press release: "we had to borrow some key software engineering and QA resources from our Mac OS X team, and as a result we will not be able to release Leopard at our Worldwide Developers Conference in early June as planned."
why is everyone in such a rush? Apple should get it right and if that takes longer then so be it. You'd hate to be the first one with the phone and have to return it or wait for some software update...wouldn't you? Hey if it takes until the Fall, that's alright by me.
well they really didnt say anyhting because june 11th wasnt the offical date it was just a rumor, so late june would still be considered on time, plus if this is true then possibly their will be more features on the iphone and maybe more storage capacity
if you were planning to sell it in July then maybe you'd have a problem but if you keep it for ten years or longer like most shareholders used to. You will have a very nice nest egg.
i agree alot of new products have bugs, apple is trying to avoid that and i would much rather wait till late june instead of get the phone and have to ship it back for problems. and they might have some new features which would be cool.
Apple already had stated it was late June
This is not news. It appears this "rumor" came out a week too late. The first sentence in Apple's Statement clearly mentions:
"iPhone has already passed several of its required certification tests and is on schedule to ship in late June as planned."
They have always said June, but have never specified when in June. I'm so tired of people twisting rumors into reality and then claiming Apple is late when their "new reality" doesn't pan out.
People are doing the same thing with iLife and iWork rumors. Apple has never admitted to new versions even being planned, yet people are complaining that they are now late. Just because Apple released previous versions at a certain time in previous years does not guarantee that future versions are to be expected at the same time, folks.
This is not news. It appears this "rumor" came out a week too late. The first sentence in Apple's Statement clearly mentions:
"iPhone has already passed several of its required certification tests and is on schedule to ship in late June as planned."
They have always said June, but have never specified when in June. I'm so tired of people twisting rumors into reality and then claiming Apple is late when their "new reality" doesn't pan out.
People are doing the same thing with iLife and iWork rumors. Apple has never admitted to new versions even being planned, yet people are complaining that they are now late. Just because Apple released previous versions at a certain time in previous years does not guarantee that future versions are to be expected at the same time, folks.
Big Company
Apple just became a big company like DELL, Microsoft etc. and got all theirs illnesses. But in addition to it also they became a liars. Two weeks before launch of Apple TV they perfectly knew that this will be delayed, and said there'll be no delay. Month ago they said Leopard will be shipped this spring, and they knew that it won't. Now they promise that iPhone will be shipped in June, and believe me, somewhere on 20's of June they'll say that it'll be delayed because of third party something. As well as Leopard won't be shipped on October. If you believe all that Apple say, so you should assume that Apple is a kind of company, that have no idea about time framing of project management, that develop products spontaneously and unable to estimate which part of work we'll be done in a month on specific project.
Apple just became a big company like DELL, Microsoft etc. and got all theirs illnesses. But in addition to it also they became a liars. Two weeks before launch of Apple TV they perfectly knew that this will be delayed, and said there'll be no delay. Month ago they said Leopard will be shipped this spring, and they knew that it won't. Now they promise that iPhone will be shipped in June, and believe me, somewhere on 20's of June they'll say that it'll be delayed because of third party something. As well as Leopard won't be shipped on October. If you believe all that Apple say, so you should assume that Apple is a kind of company, that have no idea about time framing of project management, that develop products spontaneously and unable to estimate which part of work we'll be done in a month on specific project.
By that logic, Apple can just tell the suppliers to "make it happen" and the parts will be available in time?
That's absurd.
Open up your computer. Open up your phone. Tell me that those devices are *just* products of their respective companies, especially when they are stuffed with 3rd party chips, RAM, and motherboards. Sure, your computer is branded as an Apple, but did they make the CPU? The GPU? What about the RAM? Or the hard drives? If Intel couldn't supply enough C2D for the entire Mac line to be outfitted with them, is that Apple's fault? Of course not.
Apple made judgements as to when they thought they could release the product. They made it believing that the suppliers could provide the required parts in enough volume to make a June ship/availability date possible.
If the suppliers mess up, either through technical problems, mismanagement, or any one of the other possible issues that might come up, Apple has no other choice but to sit on its hands and wait.
At the end of the day, Apple can only ship what it can build.
[edit: the article mentions how all the suppliers are meeting their ship times and goals, so it appears that waiting for the required parts isn't the cause for the delay. my mistake.]
I doubt iPhone will be delayed, there's too much publicity surrounding it. If worse comes to worst they'll just launch without a few features and release a software update later.
That's an entirely different arguement.
Leopard is SOFTWARE, which is something that Apple can develop in-house, without hardware suppliers.
Leopard's delay was entirely Apple's fault.
The iPhone delay isn't the same.
The iPhone, just like everything else that Apple offers in terms of HARDWARE is dependent on whether or not Apple can actually get the parts and components it needs.
Apple can't just wave a wand and suddenly produce the chips it needs. It has to depend on other companies to supply the chips.
Do you guys honestly not see the difference here?
[edit: the article mentions how all the suppliers are meeting their ship times and goals, so it appears that waiting for the required parts isn't the cause for the delay. my mistake.]
They WILL delay it if they have to, whether they want to or not. And either way, it won't be any more shocking or criminal than the millions of self-imposed deadlines Apple--and EVERY other tech company, large and small--has missed in the past. An announced ship date is not a contract, not impossible to miss, and nobody is under any illusion to the contrary.
There are no solid rumors of an iPhone delay beyond Apple's stated "June." But even if there were, it's not some new phenomenon. It's the kind of thing that happens--to all companies. It hurts the company and it hurts the users. But somehow, we will survive.
I do agree that Apple will really bend over backwards to avoid that in this case. The Leopard story is plenty of evidence for that.
And of course, the iPhone may well be right on schedule for June with no crisis at all. Just like all the other on-time Apple products nobody remembers because on-time is not a good headline
This is a non-story...karlfranz has it spot on!
I wholeheartedly agree with karlfranz on this one, this looks like an analyst reading the Apple statement and creatively clarifying it in an attempt to gain credibility:
I wholeheartedly agree with karlfranz on this one, this looks like an analyst reading the Apple statement and creatively clarifying it in an attempt to gain credibility:
Why Apple doesn't pre-announce
All this speculation is why Apple doesn't pre-announce products. Makes you wonder why they have done this with the iPhone, AppleTV, and Leopard. Maybe it's a strategic decision, but all this idiotic speculation and commentary makes me wish Apple would go back to keeping everything a secret until it's released.
All this speculation is why Apple doesn't pre-announce products. Makes you wonder why they have done this with the iPhone, AppleTV, and Leopard. Maybe it's a strategic decision, but all this idiotic speculation and commentary makes me wish Apple would go back to keeping everything a secret until it's released.
Sure... you understand this, and I understand this but when will our stupid retarded bosses understand this? NEVER!
Agreed 100%.
It was always a nice surprise when Apple released something that no one saw coming.
Then again, the harm of this speculation--harm to Apple and to us rumor-followers--is really pretty minor harm
Compared with the pre-sales buzz Apple gets, and the FUN we get from knowing ahead of time, I don't think pre-announcing is such a bad thing.
Sometimes putting more people behind a job will not help it get done any faster. With the iPhone there is also dealing the FCC for regulation of the product. But if there is other technical problems getting new people may take longer then using the ones who already seen the code and know how to fix the problems
It's not an AAPL stock price drop, it's a buying opportunity
*I realize the proper grammar is "Think positively," but I just wanted to riff off Apple's grammatically-(ahem!)interesting slogan.
You know, that's something I have been thinking about lately. Is "Think different." grammatically correct? I doubt Apple would let something as big as that slip.