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The only problem I see with that browser ID string is the "Safari/419.3". Safari build 419.3 is the Safari build that comes with OSX 10.4.9. I highly doubt the OSX running on iPhone runs the same build of safari build as the OSX 10.4.9 does. And webkit 420 is the webkit that ships with OSX 10.4 .. again, I doubt the iPhone will have the same build of WebKit as the full blown OS.

I'd say somebody at apple is playing practical joke on people. Who could it be, Steve himself?

update: ok, so i'm a bit wrong. WebKit build with 10.4 is 419, OmniWeb currently supplies with 420. Still, I'd expect the iPhone (as well as Leopard) WebKit build number to be higher.

Some of this access was the 19 of the month, not just today.

Besides I do not believe that Apple stated that it was going to run Leopard or did they?

Makes sense that it is Tiger based.
 
Oh bother, nothing in my logs for "iPhone" in the last month. Must not be a high priority for the folks at Apple :eek:
 
Browser Window Size

I'd be curious if any of the weblogs recorded iPhone browser screen real estate, since it's obviously smaller than the iPhone screen.

I'd really like to know the two browser window sizes when it's vertical and horizontal so I can start developing web applets for it.
 
The only problem I see with that browser ID string is the "Safari/419.3". Safari build 419.3 is the Safari build that comes with OSX 10.4.9. I highly doubt the OSX running on iPhone runs the same build of safari build as the OSX 10.4.9 does. And webkit 420 is the webkit that ships with OSX 10.4 .. again, I doubt the iPhone will have the same build of WebKit as the full blown OS.

I'd say somebody at apple is playing practical joke on people. Who could it be, Steve himself?

update: ok, so i'm a bit wrong. WebKit build with 10.4 is 419, OmniWeb currently supplies with 420. Still, I'd expect the iPhone (as well as Leopard) WebKit build number to be higher.

Review http://developer.apple.com/internet/safari/uamatrix.html

The current WebKit nightly build says...
"Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/522+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/419.3"
 
I don't think Steve would take advice on how to run his company from a stranger. But what if...
Look into my eyes not around my eyes! 3 2 1 *Click fingers* Your under. You will first class mail an 8GB Sim free iPhone to my house now! 3 2 1 your back in the room!

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Yes, but perhaps Steve is a proper English lady...?
 
I thought that Macrumors was blocked from use at Apple, unless its a legit test by R&D.

It might not be blocked as such, just not aloud to be used.

From everything I've heard over the years, Apple employees are allowed to view rumor sites -- they just can't post anything on the forums.

Besides, the purpose of using the iPhones is product testing. In order to effectively test the phones, they have to visit websites that the majority of their customers will visit. :)

Besides I do not believe that Apple stated that it was going to run Leopard or did they?

Makes sense that it is Tiger based.

No, it was never explicitly stated that the iPhone will run Leopard. However, it was stated in the keynote that the iPhone uses Core Animation, which is a Leopard-only technology (as far as we know).
 
They were probably checking to see if the iPhone was still shipping at the end of June.

Haha, your so right, theyve got an iphone in their hands but they'll be damned if theyve been told when they're gonna be released and when they can have one for real.

What better way to get information that to visit MR.

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See 2007/05/19 01:34 c-24-7-124-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/1A530a Safari/419.3
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Anyone knows who from apple attended Virginia college?

mymowser.com shows they were visited.

More at ualberta.vmitchel looks like same unit
... Windows NT 5.1; SV1) 675695 2007/05/19 01:05 c-24-7-124-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420+ (KHTML, ...

If I find more ill add it to this post

Anyone find it odd that the second one is Windows NT 5.1 ??

Besides..A couple of Apple's best ideas came from Macrumors :)
 
Anyone find it odd that the second one is Windows NT 5.1 ??

It's just a missing line break. The NT text is the end of the previous log entry.
 

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32 more days till the iPhone launch can't wait till the announcement next monday!!!
 
If this proves that folks at Apple look at MacRumors, then they clearly must have some idea of what users really want. Hopefully, they read the thread that was a nearly unanimous negative on the demise of the Mini, because it can't go away.

Most companies that care what their customers think browse forums.

While Apple could look at the Mac Mini thread, why should they? People saying one thing and do another is something entirely different. You have all these people asking for the Mac Mini to be saved, but yet when it comes to sales, it is disappointing. If they sold plenty of them, then it would stick around. I saw quite a few posts of people stating that when they have enough money saved, they would buy one. The Mini has been out for quite awhile. If it takes that long to save the money, then that is why it is being discontinued. The market that is buying it is small and at the extreme low-end and people are buying laptops or the iMac.
 
why would the traffic come from an apple internal ip (17.*.*.*) address? surely if the phone is on cingular/at&t's network, the ip address of the phone would be an ip address assigned to cingular or at&t?
 
Well, it was confirmed some time ago (by the mods) that Apple employees occasionally browse the site.

* waves to Apple employees *

And, it's news because it proves there are actual functional units roaming around, and we can determine some (but not much) information from the browser string.

A few weeks ago, Stan Sigman gave an iPhone away. There have plenty of proto units being used for testing as well; both at Apple and AT&T.

Did you think that the phone would be released with no test units ever being used?

I bet Apple Employees also want to know what the rumors are. They probably don't know everything that's behind closed doors at Apple either.

As for the testing... good. Let's hope they're testing the iPhone browser 24/7... to make sure it works on as many sites as possible.

That is dependent on how the website wrote their html code. IE allows for errors which allows for programmers to write sloppy code. If people would code to W3C standards, sites would the same on any browser used.

Apple would be insane NOT to have functional units being tested within a month of the product's launch.

Try MONTHS. It is not uncommon to test for 6 months; new OS, new hardware, etc. Why do you think Leopard is delayed? Leopard is delayed by about 5 months; care to guess when Apple started testing?

It might not be blocked as such, just not aloud to be used. Plus I bet this visit was just to test how the iPhone can deal with forums and the layout of Macrumors (a lot of people who are going to buy the iPhone are most likely going to visit MR).

They could visit any forum powered by vBulletin software.

why would the traffic come from an apple internal ip (17.*.*.*) address? surely if the phone is on cingular/at&t's network, the ip address of the phone would be an ip address assigned to cingular or at&t?

You don’t think they would have GSM equipment as they were developing it? A little hard to test it in the lab without it. You don’t want to use a carriers system. They wouldn’t have FCC certification yet and it could cause issues.
 
why would the traffic come from an apple internal ip (17.*.*.*) address? surely if the phone is on cingular/at&t's network, the ip address of the phone would be an ip address assigned to cingular or at&t?

Wifi access?

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... No, it was never explicitly stated that the iPhone will run Leopard. However, it was stated in the keynote that the iPhone uses Core Animation, which is a Leopard-only technology (as far as we know).

Some sources claim Apple TV is using a version of the Core Animation API, and yet Apple TV is running a version of Tiger.
 
why would the traffic come from an apple internal ip (17.*.*.*) address? surely if the phone is on cingular/at&t's network, the ip address of the phone would be an ip address assigned to cingular or at&t?

It's got Wireless LAN, so if they use it from a hotspot on Apple Campus... well that's an Apple IP internal, right?
 
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