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iPhone/Verizon? 3G Unlocked?
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based on your posts in the t-mobile 3G thread your credibility here is pretty low. which carrier gets the deal in the US market has little bearing on who apple deals with over seas. the point is, verizon was offered the iphone and they turned it down. let me see if i can spell this out for you since you continue to lack any form of reading comprehension.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/29/verizon-passed-up-apple-iphone-deal/
its not "assumptions" its called a verizon vp press statement. oh im sorry steve jobs didnt say it so it must be a lie.
also:
https://www.macrumors.com/2007/01/29/verizon-rejected-iphone-deal-due-to-apples-terms/
The Verizon VP can say anything he wants. Unless he knows the inner workings of Apple Inc., he doesn't know that he's the first. You put too much faith in PR statements, and your own credibility is hardly shining.
I don't recall Verizon ever saying they were first.
It was reporters who added that idea, sometimes. Probably because they couldn't conceive of Apple going to more than one carrier.
According to the original WSJ article on the iPhone (which I think was better than the mixed up Wired article a year later), Apple started with Cingular, then courted Verizon later on. It's not clear if they wanted Verizon alone, or in combination with Cingular.
What IS irrefutable, is that Apple obviously saw value in being with Verizon. Verizon's refusal does not change that fact.
you are harping over the order in which the iphone was offered when all that really matters is the fact that it was offered to and refused by verizon. that is not up for debate and i couldn't care less about the order because my argument still stands even if verizon was last to get the offer. you can keep nitpicking or actually give a reason why:
1. Apple would go back to someone that already turned them down
2. Verizon would all of a suddenly have a change of heart and have no problem with apples demand for a high amount of control over the iphone/cut of service revenue.
3. Why apple would make the investment in a CDMA that is sold to only ~25% of the US market when they currently have 1 model that is sold world wide.
impress me by giving me a response to those instead of splitting hairs that do nothing but distract from what i am really trying to say.
Let me remind you that I have never said Apple would produce a CDMA iPhone. I said that it's likely we'll see the iPhone offered on Verizon after their transition to LTE is completed, as, by then, Apple's contract with AT&T should be expired. I said that Apple's not going to go out of their way to exclude a certain UTMS band from the 3G iPhone just to appease one carrier. Tell me how this detracts from anything you've said. You instigated this "nit-picking". Why don't you stop talking as though you know every detail about Apple's operations? You can cite all the news reports you want; no "insider" article without direct statements from Apple's higher-ups is 100% accurate.
When will iPhone come to verizon?
I am just wondering because my mom will not switch to at&t and personally i think their customer service is SH**... I am hopeing for the end of this year early next year? does anybody know? if not i will have to get the blackberry 9000 or thunder.... great phones but i am an apple addict so i would love to have the iphone...
Thanks - Appleninja
I am just wondering because my mom will not switch to at&t and personally i think their customer service is SH**... I am hopeing for the end of this year early next year? does anybody know? if not i will have to get the blackberry 9000 or thunder.... great phones but i am an apple addict so i would love to have the iphone...
Thanks - Appleninja
Exactly. That's why I was so happy to leave Verizon. They want to charge you for everything they possibly can. You want to use the "R" key on your keyboard? That'll be $1.99 a month additional but, hey, we have a special package for R, Y, K, M and B for only $5.99 monthly.
As to the OP's question, there have been an avalance of recent announcements for iPhone expansion into new countries. They're all GSM. Apple has quite enough on its plate keeping GSM phones flowing to all those markets. No, they're not going to come out with a CDMA U.S.-market phone. GSM is making them plenty. Apple is thinking globally, not locally.
Well the iPhone even in its next generation will not come to Verizon and will never be available because Verizon uses a completely different network technology - CDMA - instead of the network type the iPhone uses - GSM. However, Verizon is converting to a GSM standard for 4G - LTE, so in theory, when an LTE compatible iPhone comes out (and it will eventually since AT&T has decided to move to LTE as well), it *might* be possible to get an iPhone on Verizon's network through unlocking. This however is unknown if it would work since Verizon's plans for its LTE network are unknown (SIM cards, etc). But it also should be noted that Verizon's 4G network plans to come live around 2010-2011, while AT&T is supposed to come out 1-2 years later, so it may be awhile before there is even an LTE compatible iPhone. It is also extremely unlikey an iPhone will come to Verizon officially even after Verizon converts to LTE since AT&T and Apple have a supposed 5-year exclusive agreement.
So short answer - it is impossible to get an iPhone on Verizon now (through unlocking) and in the near future and will be unlikely to be able to get one on Verizon (even unofficially) even in a few years.
Note: The last few posts were merged into this thread from a different thread so the specfics have been answered before
So short answer - it is impossible to get an iPhone on Verizon now (through unlocking) and in the near future and will be unlikely to be able to get one on Verizon (even unofficially) even in a few years.
Note: The last few posts were merged into this thread from a different thread so the specfics have been answered before
What are the chances the 3G iPhone will be unlocked?
So I'm curious, what are the chances that Apple will release the next iPhone unlocked? I'm curious because I ordered one of the ATT refurbished 8GB phones last week & was planning on unlocking it & using it on T-Mobile (I'm still in contract). If Apple sells the next iPhone unlocked could that change how I activate my the 8GB iPhone? It would be nice to not have to void the warranty before I start using the phone. Give me your thoughts.
So I'm curious, what are the chances that Apple will release the next iPhone unlocked? I'm curious because I ordered one of the ATT refurbished 8GB phones last week & was planning on unlocking it & using it on T-Mobile (I'm still in contract). If Apple sells the next iPhone unlocked could that change how I activate my the 8GB iPhone? It would be nice to not have to void the warranty before I start using the phone. Give me your thoughts.
Try https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/272219/
An 11 page thread starting post being:
"Does anyone think that maybe down the road the iPhone will be available to verizon or other cell phone companies? "
An 11 page thread starting post being:
"Does anyone think that maybe down the road the iPhone will be available to verizon or other cell phone companies? "
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I also doubt this particularly in the US. I think that it is more likely that it will eventually be offered by other carriers in the US but for now it's AT&T or unlock it yourself.
I also doubt this particularly in the US. I think that it is more likely that it will eventually be offered by other carriers in the US but for now it's AT&T or unlock it yourself.
Your warranty does void, btw. In the Warranty statement it says your warranty starts from the "time of purchase." If you unlock it appropriately and understand how to reverse what you've done before you do it then if anything goes wrong you can reverse it back to it's original state or a state that looks like it. Also keep you receipt for proof of your purchase date.
Do you know what the "appropriate" way to unlock it & be able to reverse it is? And if I was able to restore it & I'm not on ATT wouldn't they still turn me away?
No, you don't personally think that, you're restating something you read or heard elsewhere.
If you can't have anything other than VZW, then you don't have any personal experience with AT&T to draw a conclusion like that.
And no, not by the end of this year or early next year. If you read this thread at all rather than just posting in it, you'd see most guesses are around 2011 or 2012.
They'd not only have to pay millions to break the contract, they'd also lose the millions of dollars they're making in subscription kickbacks, and probably have to repay the take they have so far.
Contracts aren't simple things to break. They exist for a reason, especially when dealing with multi-billion dollar corporations. Hell, it costs you $200 to break a $30 a month contract with a cell carrier, imagine what it takes to break a contract where you're taking millions a month.
1. If Apple decides to work with another carrier, then some or all of the penalty might be paid by that carrier. I'm not sure that comparing it to a lowly user-end contract is valid. Apple comes to the table with the sexiest phone on the market, millions of customers, the best mobile platform ever created, and billion of dollars in cash to play with. You and I come to the table with so little clout that we must sign these lousy user contracts with absolutely no negotiation.
2. We don't know anything about the Apple-AT&T contract, except that it's exclusive for an undisclosed period of time.
Just a reminder not to assume anything about the contract because we don't know much, except that there's been a gross mass assumption that it's for 5-years due to one article which didn't list a source. I'm skeptical that the iPhone will come to Verizon any time soon, which is a drag because I can't rely on AT&T in my area, but anything could happen. For all we know, Verizon has taken a good look at the number of people who switched to AT&T, the amount of money they're paying AT&T per month, compared it to the amount of money they make on their crap music service, and decided that perhaps they want the iPhone after all.
Having been on Sprint, AT&T before and after the transition to Cingular, Verizon, and now T-Mobile, I can say, unequivocally that Verizon SUCKS. They suck because they cripple their phones. And they suck because their customer service is atrocious. I've had nothing but a good experience with T-Mobile.
If Apple ever brought Verizon on board as a carrier, I'd be happy for my sister b/c she's on Verizon & she could get an iPhone. But I'd be disappointed a bit since I'm sure I'd field many calls from her for technical help. I wouldn't put it past Verizon to lock out some of the iPhone's features and charge and arm and a leg for others.
If Apple ever brought Verizon on board as a carrier, I'd be happy for my sister b/c she's on Verizon & she could get an iPhone. But I'd be disappointed a bit since I'm sure I'd field many calls from her for technical help. I wouldn't put it past Verizon to lock out some of the iPhone's features and charge and arm and a leg for others.