iPhone With Apple Pencil Support Could Launch 'As Early As 2019'

[adamjackson]

I hear ya.

I put off replying to texts until I'm back in front of my laptop - Everyone knows that if they need me to reply urgently, call me.

Holy crap me too. All of my friends joke that that I take a full 8 hours to reply to messages but I'm in bed by 9PM and don't sleep with my iPhone like a lot of people since I hear the iPhone buzzing & making noise will disrupt the sleep cycles, and if I'm on the go, I just call them. It's not like i'm not-techie. I just don't want to mash out 24 characters and then spend 2 minutes changing all of the auto-correct things to the right words.

Siri voice to text has helped me a bit but after someone replies to me the 3rd time, I just call them and they don't pick up. sigh.

 

[DCIFRTHS]

... Having watched some people in assisted care using iOS devices with those typical rubber stylus devices, I realize how ignorant I was to the fact that a precise pencil style input could also be of great use to that community as well...

Great point.

 

[Ciclismo]

No, that’s not how to charge a Pencil. The correct method is to use the wire with the provided adapter.
The method depicted on the picture is for a quick charge in case you can’t plug to an outlet and you need the Pencil to be functional within 15-30 seconds.

You mean that adapter that virtually everyone lost 0.3 seconds after opening the package?

 

[840quadra]

No, it's a stylus. A precision stylus, but a stylus nonetheless. There are some that are more precise and some that are less precise. They're still all styluses. No matter what the marketing department says. Microsoft doesn't have a pen and Apple doesn't have a pencil. They both have styluses called Pen and Pencil respectively.

They are different devices, a stylus is a piece of plastic that the device simply responds to. These newer devices (marketing aside) have a lot more functionality and intelligence behind them.

Your argument is akin to calling everything you hold and write with a Pencil, despite pens, markers, etc all being different types of media.

 

[samcraig]

Let's be clear about three things.

1. Steve Jobs is not in charge of Apple any more. He's dead. The company is moving forward.
2. As with any product and company, the comment about stylus was because he was pitching his multi-touch phone and wanted to differentiate his product from the competition. He may have been against the idea of a stylus. But it's pretty irrelevant to the conversation. It was a way to mock the competition at the time.
3. a Stylus on a 3.5" phone made/makes no sense. But technology, phone size and consumer behaviors have changed a lot since Jobs made those comments.

 

[citysnaps]

First off, it is more than a stylus.

I agree with what Jobs said in the past, and agree a stylus shouldn't be needed on these devices to function. That said, the pressure sensitivity, angle sensitivity and precise point is nice for writing and artistic input that a finger really can't reproduce as easily.

Having watched some people in assisted care using iOS devices with those typical rubber stylus devices, I realize how ignorant I was to the fact that a precise pencil style input could also be of great use to that community as well.


Actually, that is how you pair the device too.

Honestly I never use the adapter, it charges so fast from either of my iPad Pro devices that I never need it.

Yes... People seem to conveniently forget that Jobs' view was that a stylus shouldn't be required for phone operation.

And that sentiment is perfectly compatible with someone needing a more sophisticated and more capable instrument that works better than a finger, a stylus, for activities beyond normal day-to-day phone operation. Such as capturing hand-drawn notes, artistic sketching/painting endeavors, etc. A stylus offers far more capability and nuance in those situations.

I don't understand why people are so upset since a stylus/Pencil would be an optional purchase. Don't need or if you hate on the mere idea of a stylus? Easy. Don't buy it.

 

[YaBe]

As usual, the video and quote from S.J. are used out of context to prove a non point.

 

[chucker23n1]

Former Apple CEO Steve Jobs was famously against launching a stylus for iPhones, during the original iPhone event stating: "Who wants a stylus? You have to get them, and put them away, and you lose them, yuck. Nobody wants a stylus."

Not sure why this keeps getting pulled out of context? What Steve didn't want was for a stylus to be the primary input method. He achieved that: you interact, almost entirely, with your finger.

This says nothing about the merits of a stylus for drawing. Obviously, a stylus is a far more fitting input device for drawing than a finger. But a finger, in Steve's view (and I think this has been proven correct), is a more fitting input device for general-purpose UI interaction.

Look no further than Apple's Newton to see what Apple was trying to prevent a repeat of.

 

[deanthedev]

He was wrong on this topic, with a pencil the iPhone can compete with the note phones for business people and improve productivity

Funny how something that’s supposed to “improve productivity” is only used in a niche device.

If they’re so useful, why doesn’t Samsung give their number one selling device (Galaxy S Series) the ability to use a stylus?

 

[I’mpaced]

We miss you Steve

Speak for yourself. And I doubt you “miss him”

 

[3rdiguy]

I’d like to have the ability to use it on a Plus model as sometimes I go from iPad Pro to iPhone and added functionality would be great. Plus it helps keep fingerprints off the screen

 

[democracyrules]

Apple is reportedly "mulling" the idea of launching a stylus compatible with iPhone, believed to be a new iteration of the Apple Pencil, which is currently only supported by the iPad Pro. The rumor comes from industry sources speaking to The Korea Herald (via The Investor), which claimed that Apple engineers "have recently been working" on a new iPhone device that "comes with a digital pen," aiming for a potential launch in 2019.

The sources said that the iPhone stylus is likely to adopt a "supercapacitor stylus type" for price benefits, contrasting with Samsung's Galaxy Note pen which is based on electromagnetic resonance technology that needs additional panel components to be installed underneath the smartphone display. "A supercapacitor type is cheaper to make compared to the EMR stylus. It also offers a more pen-like feel," according to the industry sources.

Notably, Apple's current A-series chip would see a "drastic upgrade" as well in order to fuel a better handwriting experience for the stylus on iPhone.
The Apple Pencil launched nearly two years ago in November 2015 alongside the 12.9-inch iPad Pro. Apple's first stylus was designed specifically to work with the iPad Pro, and gives users the feel of using a real pen or pencil with sensors that determine the orientation and angle of the Apple Pencil, and pressure sensitivity allowing for darker or lighter pen strokes.

Former Apple CEO Steve Jobs was famously against launching a stylus for iPhones, during the original iPhone event stating: "Who wants a stylus? You have to get them, and put them away, and you lose them, yuck. Nobody wants a stylus."

Apple executives and current CEO Tim Cook have repeatedly avoided referring to Apple Pencil as a "stylus" over the years, with Cook commenting in an interview last year that "we launched a pencil not a stylus." The Apple CEO further stated, "I think that Steve would have loved" the Apple Pencil, and even gave early mention of a pencil device potentially supporting iPhones in the future: "if you've ever seen what can be created on an iPhone or an iPad with that pencil is really unbelievable."

Article Link: iPhone With Apple Pencil Support Could Launch 'As Early As 2019'

Hopefully this rumor will materialize. This is what I have been waiting for. When it is materialized, thanks and kudos to Apple

 

[Apple blogger]

Also, iPad with 3D Touch would be launching alongside, with a touch screen Mac

 

[mthomas184]

God no.

 

[5105973]

Iphone isn’t a Nintendo DS and the Apple Pencil isn’t a stylus. I just got back into digital art using the Apple Pencil and it is a really powerful tool, despite the software I’ve been using seeming limited and underpowered compared to what I was used to working with on a full desktop computer 12-15 years ago. But I’m just getting started and not used to the new tools yet and going by limited first impressions. I’ve put in only about 14 hours of work on my preliminary project so far. That’s nothing.

Anyway, I can’t see composing great works of art on a little iPhone screen, but it would still be a very welcome convenience on occasion to be able to pull the Apple Pencil out of my purse and jot a few things down on the iPhone. Especially if some good apps come out to make the most of the AP and iPhone combination.

I would NOT want to see the Pencil have to be stored somewhere inside of the iPhone, necessitating building out a completely separate and dedicated Note-taking iphone. I’ve owned and used a Note and the short stubby S-Pen isn’t as nice to use as a full sized pen or pencil. It also takes up so much internal space that Samsung has to compromise on battery size. So I’d rather see all iPhones have the capability to work with the Apple Pencil but not be sold in the way the Note series is.

 

[obiwan]

Yes, because we are so used to border-less displays of iPhones of the past.... and this enormous-shocking notch came out of nowhere!!

I'm not quite sure of your point. When did the border ever get in the way of the display? Er, never.

 

[Nozuka]

Not only that Apple takes 2 or 3 yrs to use those "ideas..." and have the gall to still call them "innovative."

Does Apple even use the word "innovative" or "innovation"? Can't remember them using it.

 

[j3T]

The video and quotes of Steve often get rolled out whenever the Apple Pencil is discussed. However, in defence of Tim Cook, I think people are too quick to jump to those quotes/video.

At the time Steve made those comments in the keynote, pretty much all 'touch screen' devices were shockingly bad and pretty much unusable with just a finger - at least in the way we use them now. Most devices resorted to needing a stylus as the only reasonable way of interacting with the device. The iPhone changed all that, and Steve's comments were indicative of that shift in technology. Here'a device with a touch screen so good, so accurate, so responsive that you can use it entirely without a stylus, unlike 98% of devices on the market at that time. It was a game changer.

The Apple Pencil is an optional stylus. You don't need it. You can use the iPad Pro without the Pencil. But with it, you can write naturally or be more precise.

In that sense, I don't think Steve's comments are completely out of sync with the existence of the Pencil?

Exactly that. Everyone here responding negatively is thinking about using it to navigate the interface, which isn't the point at all. The pencil is an optional device for creative purposes. I love using my pencil on the ipad pro with procreate and sketchbook, and would definitely use it on the iPhone with the same apps.

 

[convergent]

Not interested for me. Whole point of the iPhone is it being compact and ready to use with just your finger

Yet Samsung manages to include a stylus (in a silo), a headphone jack, expandable storage, make it waterproof, and still has a better screen to size ratio than any shipping iPhone. And they didn't even claim it was courageous.

Here is the problem with Apple and innovation. They have been stubborn in many areas, and that allows the competition to leap ahead. So when they do come out with something, the competition will be down the road. A couple of examples - touch on laptops, stylus/pen/pencil on phones/laptops, AMOLED display tech, etc.. If they manage to come out with a pencil in several years, they aren't going to have all the software integration points that Samsung has been tweaking for years already.

 

[Pagemakers]

Just make the PEN feel as comforable to write on the screen with as Samsung does instead of a hard, cheap feeling plastic tip.

 

[brianvictor7]

The video and quotes of Steve often get rolled out whenever the Apple Pencil is discussed. However, in defence of Tim Cook, I think people are too quick to jump to those quotes/video.

At the time Steve made those comments in the keynote, pretty much all 'touch screen' devices were shockingly bad and pretty much unusable with just a finger - at least in the way we use them now. Most devices resorted to needing a stylus as the only reasonable way of interacting with the device. The iPhone changed all that, and Steve's comments were indicative of that shift in technology. Here'a device with a touch screen so good, so accurate, so responsive that you can use it entirely without a stylus, unlike 98% of devices on the market at that time. It was a game changer.

The Apple Pencil is an optional stylus. You don't need it. You can use the iPad Pro without the Pencil. But with it, you can write naturally or be more precise.

In that sense, I don't think Steve's comments are completely out of sync with the existence of the Pencil?

Well put. I don't know why so many people are belly-aching when Apple makes options available for the 12 people who will use it. If you have use for a stylus, buy one and use it. But honestly, you're going to find that most of the time most people aren't going to have much use for a stylus. I cannot remember the last time I saw an Android user with a stylus (perhaps once in the last year?). Styluses allow for nimbler point/click/draw, but get in the way of typing. Also, the things get lost easily.

 

[Wackery]

“who wants a stylus, Yuck”
this encompasses modern apple in many ways

 

[Delgibbons]

They are different devices, a stylus is a piece of plastic that the device simply responds to. These newer devices (marketing aside) have a lot more functionality and intelligence behind them.

Your argument is akin to calling everything you hold and write with a Pencil, despite pens, markers, etc all being different types of media.

The note 8 has a Wacom digitizer remember.

The Samsung Galaxy Note 8 is the only current-gen smartphone that packs an S Pen. This tool, when combined with the Wacom digitizer under the curved Gorilla Glass 5 screen, supports 4,096 levels of pressure sensitivity. That’s the same kind of tech found in most graphic designer tablets.

 

[satchmo]

Jobs dismissed the stylus for pointing and navigating.

His comments need to be taken in context.

Steve studied calligraphy. I think he would have loved the Pencil as a tool for creative expression.

 

[69Mustang]

They are different devices, a stylus is a piece of plastic that the device simply responds to. These newer devices (marketing aside) have a lot more functionality and intelligence behind them.

Your argument is akin to calling everything you hold and write with a Pencil, despite pens, markers, etc all being different types of media.

Respectfully, you're wrong. You're wrong about your definition of what a stylus is. You're most certainly wrong about my argument. 180 degrees wrong. My argument is about calling a stylus a stylus, and not something it's obviously not. A rubber tipped plastic stick is indeed a stylus. But so is an Adonit Dash 3, Bamboo Fineline, and yes an Apple Pencil or Surface Pen.

Heck if you search for stylus on apple.com you know what you get? This.