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iPhone X Always On Display [Merged]

I think Ive’s words just meant that the phone’s functionality is not limited by the presence of the home button. The whole screen can be used to do anything. The X will evolve, but not necessarily in the same phone. Maybe the next.

As for always on display I’m neutral on that. If Apple can do that without hurting the battery life and the screen, I’m okay with that. But sometimes I enjoy the totally black front of the phone while it’s not in use. Especially when I’m in a meeting.
 
Ries said:
Update? No. It will be a feature on the next one, they need bullet points to make you fork out another $1000.
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Agreed.

Just look at Raise to Wake. It's such a simple feature, but Apple limits it to iPhone 6s and newer. They're seriously trying to tell us the gyroscope in iPhone 5s or 6 can't handle Raise to Wake?
 
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JPack said:
Agreed.

Just look at Raise to Wake. It's such a simple feature, but Apple limits it to iPhone 6s and newer. They're seriously trying to tell us the gyroscope in iPhone 5s or 6 can't handle Raise to Wake?
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Something to do with battery saving? The constant checking of device orientation is done by the co processor. The support for raise to wake coincides with the support for Hey Siri for instance.
 
haruhiko said:
Something to do with battery saving? The constant checking of device orientation is done by the co processor. The support for raise to wake coincides with the support for Hey Siri for instance.
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The M7 and M8 motion co-processor in iPhone 5s and 6 are able to track steps. In fact, it can even track steps when the main battery is dead. Raise to Wake for iPhone 6s and newer is a clear example of feature rationing in my opinion.
 
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I can’t be sure that it’s the always-on display, but my Pixel 2 XL loses battery power even when in airplane mode. When I’m at work, I leave my Android phone in my car in airplane mode. When I had the original Pixel XL, the battery percentage almost never changed during the day. With the Pixel 2 XL, it drops about five percent.
 
haruhiko said:
The support for raise to wake coincides with the support for Hey Siri for instance.
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When Hey Siri was implemented into the iPhone 6s using the M9 coprocessor, it's actually surprising uses very little battery power even when enabled. That's part of the efficiency with the core processor is assisting in managing power draw.
 
I don't like how it impacts my battery "Usage" vs "Standby" times. Sorry. But I paid to help the developer anyway, even though I won't use it anymore.

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It could come with a software update and as a future option. Battery life will have to be accepted first by most users and right now the best is what the 8 Plus offers compared with the X. With the apple Watch too, I don't think I need an "always on" setting option, although with my SONY Xperia Z Premium and smart watch it did have a nice feel to it... (Not a Samsung fan here.) I'm using iPhone X by the way.
 
The use case for an always-on watch display is stronger than an alway-on phone display and the Apple Watch doesn’t have that. I don’t see it coming to iPhone.
 
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iOS 12 could bring it along. I expect Apple to flush out all the problems with the gestures around that time because there are concepts that could've been done better.
 
cwosigns said:
The use case for an always-on watch display is stronger than an alway-on phone display and the Apple Watch doesn’t have that. I don’t see it coming to iPhone.
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Yeah but the battery on Apple Watch is minuscule so it needs very aggressive power management. The battery on iPhone is much bigger so a feature like this would have less of an impact.
 
HeadphoneAddict said:
I don't like how it impacts my battery "Usage" vs "Standby" times. Sorry. But I paid to help the developer anyway, even though I won't use it anymore.

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Given that the apps energy usage itself is actually close to zero, this is mostly due to the screen being utilized to display the information. However i think it can be further tweaked. Considering that the default color is pure white (looks great) but is the least efficient of any color choice to be displayed on the OLED display, adding a clipping point would help reduce the power draw a bit (combining with the fact that the device is probably not running on full brightness). Using green,red,yellow would be most efficient.The usage numbers can probably be brought down further, what would you personally like them to be?
 
nviz22 said:
iOS 12 could bring it along. I expect Apple to flush out all the problems with the gestures around that time because there are concepts that could've been done better.
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iOS 11 seem to be more in tune for the iPad in many different ways, where as I see iOS 12 hopefully conforming more in the sense of integrating with the iPhone X. As you mentioned, Gesture controls for example.
 
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ronanstark said:
Given that the apps energy usage itself is actually close to zero, this is mostly due to the screen being utilized to display the information. However i think it can be further tweaked. Considering that the default color is pure white (looks great) but is the least efficient of any color choice to be displayed on the OLED display, adding a clipping point would help reduce the power draw a bit (combining with the fact that the device is probably not running on full brightness). Using green,red,yellow would be most efficient.The usage numbers can probably be brought down further, what would you personally like them to be?
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Something less than showing 20% battery usage for 18 minutes on screen would be nice - that screenshot was when I had 7h:21m usage over 25 hours of standby. I keep the screen at about 10-15% brightness.

I know it didn't really use 20% of the battery during that 18 minutes it was loaded and running. It seems like the battery % usage is over-inflated for what impact it really had on the battery reserve, don't you think? I don't know if that's a bug or not.

Do we know how fast the battery will drain on an iPhone X in low power mode and airplane mode while only running OLEDX vs nothing else? In those conditions I believe that Apple claims 60 hours when only playing music with the screen off.
 
HeadphoneAddict said:
Something less than showing 20% battery usage for 18 minutes on screen would be nice - that screenshot was when I had 7h:21m usage over 25 hours of standby. I keep the screen at about 10-15% brightness.

I know it didn't really use 20% of the battery during that 18 minutes it was loaded and running. It seems like the battery % usage is over-inflated for what impact it really had on the battery reserve, don't you think? I don't know if that's a bug or not.

Do we know how fast the battery will drain on an iPhone X in low power mode and airplane mode while only running OLEDX vs nothing else? In those conditions I believe that Apple claims 60 hours when only playing music with the screen off.
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It does seem like it's higher than it really is, as it does not seem to impact it that much during testing, but it can be further tweaked and there are a few things that have already been implemented.

I haven't ran a full test yet but i'll try to go from a full charge to as low as i can get it with only OLEDX running.
 
ronanstark said:
It does seem like it's higher than it really is, as it does not seem to impact it that much during testing, but it can be further tweaked and there are a few things that have already been implemented.

I haven't ran a full test yet but i'll try to go from a full charge to as low as i can get it with only OLEDX running.
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Radios off, low power mode?
 
My Galaxy S8 has an always on clock that is very handy. It moves position so there is no burn in. I wish my X had the same feature.
 
Not that bothered about it. I’ve had the S7 edge and the note 8 which both had an always on display. I don’t miss it now that I don’t have those phones.
 
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