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You've never worked in software development, have you?

Sorry I have. My comment back earlier in this thread was aimed more at people doing productivity at work. Which is why I mentioned Windows owning the desktop and iOS owning mobile (phones & tablets) in enterprise use. DEX is useless in this scenario.

Then someone decided to try and bring software development into the discussion. As I already replied, there’s no way you’ll convince me that any serious developer is going to code on a stupid phone. So DEX is also useless in this scenario.

Basically DEX is useless. Unless you want to manufacture another scenario where it’s worthwhile.
 
It's damn impressive for 6-month old A-series SOCs to easily beat the best the competition offers TODAY.

Now bring this to a laptop, ditch Intel, and lock all the SW Engineers at Apple in a room for 2 years and have them only fix bugs. One release like Snow Leopard will not be enough -- every OS they ship needs back-to-back SL releases just to get normal.

Even more impressive - the old iPhone 6s (2015) beats Samsung's not even a year old S8 (2017) in performance.
 
The latest iPhone is always the fastest thing in the world, and then 1 year later either through iOS update or the amazing battery throttling, the phone somehow is a stuttery slouch.

I'd love to see iPhone X benchmarks after 1-2 years when the throttling kicks in and you lose 50-70% of the performance.
 
The latest iPhone is always the fastest thing in the world, and then 1 year later either through iOS update or the amazing battery throttling, the phone somehow is a stuttery slouch.

I'd love to see iPhone X benchmarks after 1-2 years when the throttling kicks in and you lose 50-70% of the performance.

The 6s from 2015 beat the 2017 S8 when it was released..
 
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care to elaborate more?

I already did when I mentioned tablet Apps (which are terrible on Android). The whole point of hooking up to a monitor/keyboard/mouse would be to run more sophisticated Apps you normally wouldn’t want to on a phone. These types of Apps (typically tablet Apps) are sorely lacking on Android. So you’re left with running your existing phone Apps on a much bigger screen. Not particularly useful when it’s already easy to switch between them on your phone (and the fact you get notifications to alert you of something you need to check).
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The latest iPhone is always the fastest thing in the world, and then 1 year later either through iOS update or the amazing battery throttling, the phone somehow is a stuttery slouch.

I'd love to see iPhone X benchmarks after 1-2 years when the throttling kicks in and you lose 50-70% of the performance.

I’ve already posted several of mine. 17 month old device (iPhone 7 Plus) and still runs full speed.
 
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Still not sure what that has to do with anything? Who cares if Samsung is a manufacturer.
Oh no don't get me wrong, I wasn't on either side of the argument. I was just pointing something out; most companies would kill to build the amount of chips Apple needs every year.
 
After having an iPhone X with the bigger OLED display, the only possible reason I can think of that most normal people would upgrade their iPhone X after this is for a much better camera (which is already pretty good, could be better in low-light) or faster, wide-angle Face ID. Most flagship phones these days are fast enough for anything you would want to do on a phone for the next several years. I mean, we can shoot 4K60 for crying out loud! And the iPhone X battery seems to last forever for me. The only thing that might change speed/battery requirement is AR, which is very much in it's infancy.

As for actual areas where hardware improvements could be useful, besides the cameras and Face ID improvements I mentioned above, faster SSDs and more RAM would make the multitasking experience more fluid. It's not bad currently but honestly I'm grasping at straws.
 
Look at that pathetic FaceID attempt from Samsung! Just look at it! Why would they try so desperately to copy it, when you say that FaceID is unnecessary? And look at those two huge bars at S9 (let's call it chin and forehead). How is that less annoying than iPhone notch? You people never cease to amaze me.

3.5 mm jack got removed for the same reason as VGA ports on laptops got removed: it is not needed when more advanced tech is here. There is no need for fingerprint sensor when you have FaceID, which is more secure than fingerprint.

There are more holes in your points than swiss cheese. "huge bars"? You lost me there. Look up the definition of "huge". I think you confused it with "slim" And while the S9 has top and bottom bezels, at least they are symmetric. I'd rather have symmetric SLIM bezels, than an irregular HUGE notch in only the top middle of my display.

VGA went the way of the dinosaur because it was an INFERIOR technology. Digital alternatives that supported higher resolutions, longer cables without signal loss, and can deliver audio is why VGA went away.

BT delivers INFERIOR sound to wired. It needs to be constantly charged. It's prone to interference and BT disconnects (which iOS 11 LOVES to do). And Apple refuses to support BT improvements like aptX to improve audio. By far, the majority of headphones and earbuds are wired. They're also less expensive. I could go on, but it starts to get embarrassing for you.

I couldn't care less about FaceID. More secure? The FBI can't even break into an iPhone with TouchID, why do we need more secure? What's on YOUR iPhone?

People like you never cease to amaze me. ;)
 
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Not to besmirch the results here, but we'd like to see these same tests ran again after a few updates have been issued later on down the road. It's not really the issue for us if Apple products are quick out of the stalls, that's fine and all, but after a few updates how are they on stamina.
 
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There are more holes in your points than swiss cheese. "huge bars"? You lost me there. Look up the definition of "huge". I think you confused it with "slim" And while the S9 has top and bottom bezels, at least they are symmetric. I'd rather have symmetric SLIM bezels, than an irregular HUGE notch in only the top middle of my display.

VGA went the way of the dinosaur because it was an ANALOG technology. Digital alternatives that supported higher resolutions, longer cables without signal loss, and can deliver audio is why VGA went away.

BT delivers INFERIOR sound to wired. It needs to be constantly charged. It's prone to interference and BT disconnects (which iOS 11 LOVES to do). And Apple refuses to support BT improvements like aptX to improve audio. By far, the majority of headphones and earbuds are wired. They're also less expensive. I could go on, but it starts to get embarrassing for you.

I couldn't care less about FaceID. More secure? The FBI can't even break into an iPhone with TouchID, why do we need more secure? What's on YOUR iPhone?

People like you never cease to amaze me. ;)

iPhone X is all screen. Except the 5mm black bezel frame all the way around. And the notch.

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There are more holes in your points than swiss cheese. "huge bars"? You lost me there. Look up the definition of "huge". I think you confused it with "slim" And while the S9 has top and bottom bezels, at least they are symmetric. I'd rather have symmetric SLIM bezels, than an irregular HUGE notch in only the top middle of my display.

VGA went the way of the dinosaur because it was an ANALOG technology. Digital alternatives that supported higher resolutions, longer cables without signal loss, and can deliver audio is why VGA went away.

BT delivers INFERIOR sound to wired. It needs to be constantly charged. It's prone to interference and BT disconnects (which iOS 11 LOVES to do). And Apple refuses to support BT improvements like aptX to improve audio. By far, the majority of headphones and earbuds are wired. They're also less expensive. I could go on, but it starts to get embarrassing for you.

I couldn't care less about FaceID. More secure? The FBI can't even break into an iPhone with TouchID, why do we need more secure? What's on YOUR iPhone?

People like you never cease to amaze me. ;)

You forgot to say that horses and carriages are superior to automobiles, too.

I do not know what is more embarrassing: fact that you have overlooked shortcomings of wired headphones, and only spoke about the CURRENT shortcomings of wireless audio, or me saying that wireless audio is more convenient for mobile devices. And we know very well that sound quality can and will get better.

World has changed in the past, and it will keep changing probably forever. It is why you are not listening to music from your Walkman anymore, but from smartphone. If you lived in that era, you would be probably talking about advantages of audio cassettes over CDs.
 
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...the only possible reason I can think of that most normal people would upgrade their iPhone X after this is for ...

The bigger screen is literally the only reason for me to upgrade this year. I went from a Plus to an X and I really just didn't like the transition. I love the gestures for getting around and Face ID is alright (I still get more fails with it than I did with Touch ID, but it's still Gen 1 so I'm assuming that will improve over time), but the smaller screen is just not as good of an experience for me. The lack of a proper landscape mode is my biggest issue with it.

Really looking forward to getting the plus sized phone back.
 
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Oh no don't get me wrong, I wasn't on either side of the argument. I was just pointing something out; most companies would kill to build the amount of chips Apple needs every year.

Okay. Still kind of lost as to the point, but moving on.
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After having an iPhone X with the bigger OLED display, the only possible reason I can think of that most normal people would upgrade their iPhone X after this is for a much better camera (which is already pretty good, could be better in low-light) or faster, wide-angle Face ID. Most flagship phones these days are fast enough for anything you would want to do on a phone for the next several years. I mean, we can shoot 4K60 for crying out loud! And the iPhone X battery seems to last forever for me. The only thing that might change speed/battery requirement is AR, which is very much in it's infancy.

As for actual areas where hardware improvements could be useful, besides the cameras and Face ID improvements I mentioned above, faster SSDs and more RAM would make the multitasking experience more fluid. It's not bad currently but honestly I'm grasping at straws.

Hardware will become less and less critical over time. All flagship phones are "fast" as this point, all cameras are "very good" at this point. It really just comes down to software.
 
Like you I got an iPhone 7 (2 in fact for my girls). Best iPhone bang for the buck in my opinion. Unlike you, I have an S7. I do not like the edge. The S7 is probably my last Sammy until the design language changes. Too bad iOS is so restrictive. The hardware is pretty damn good.

Someone may have asked you this already so im sorry if its repetitive but when you say "iOS is so restrictive"... what exactly are you doing with your phone that you would need a Mobile OS to not be restrictive. I have never used an Android but I have jailbroken my iPhone back in the day so I understand some things but just curious on your use case. thanks!
 
The 6s from 2015 beat the 2017 S8 when it was released..

Great example, my friend had a 6s that was severely slow due to the throttling, he thought he needed a new iPhone. On the other hand Galaxy users keep their devices at 100% CPU speed throughout these years, no throttling needed ever.
 
Great example, my friend had a 6s that was severely slow due to the throttling, he thought he needed a new iPhone. On the other hand Galaxy users keep their devices at 100% CPU speed throughout these years, no throttling needed ever.

Well your friend shut pop in a new battery and his phone would run circles around the S8 again. No, Samsung doesn't throttle due to bad batteries. They just explode or let Android slow down the phone over time.
 
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