iPhone X in landscape mode with notch on right hand side...

[ackmondual]

I saw a video where when using Safari, scrolling up and down through a web page, the scroll bar that indicates where you are on the page (e.g. halfway down means 50%) actually gets obstructed by that notch when it goes through it! Is that something that happens in some "full screen mode", or is there some tweak that makes it visible when going through it (like it gets bumped outside the notch so it's now visible)?

 

[subjonas]

That notch is the worst.

 

[Aibocyrus]

Turn the phone over so the notch is on the left. Problem solved.

 

[subjonas]

Turn the phone over so the notch is on the left. Problem solved.

Good design doesn’t require workarounds.

 

[Aibocyrus]

Good design doesn’t require workarounds.

Normal humans aren’t lazy.

 

[Ries]

Normal humans aren’t lazy.

The "You're holding it wrong" 2.0 Edition.

 

[Aibocyrus]

The "You're holding it wrong" 2.0 Edition.

Still no excuse for lazy. There’s two ways to hold a phone in landscape. If you buy a X you know what you’re in for. Who knows, maybe they will come up with software where the scroll bar will scroll around the notch. It’d look cool

 

[DNichter]

I don’t believe we have seen the final software for the X yet

 

[Vermifuge]

If it was a commercial or promotional spot by a 3rd party (not Apple) it was probably a simulated user experience. If you want a good idea of what it will be like install Xcode.

 

[subjonas]

Still no excuse for lazy. There’s two ways to hold a phone in landscape. If you buy a X you know what you’re in for. Who knows, maybe they will come up with software where the scroll bar will scroll around the notch. It’d look cool

So people were holding the iPhone 4 wrong?

 

[HEK]

Good design doesn’t require workarounds.

Turning it over is a workaround.. who knew all these years I was using a workaround because I liked my home button on right when in landscape mode. All the years I like the iPhone, and now to know I was wrong. Whoe is me.

 

[OneMike]

Normal humans aren’t lazy.

That applies to engineers as well.

 

[Jimmy James]

Still no excuse for lazy. There’s two ways to hold a phone in landscape. If you buy a X you know what you’re in for. Who knows, maybe they will come up with software where the scroll bar will scroll around the notch. It’d look cool

Still no excuse for bad design even if you aren't lazy and manipulate it appropriately.

 

[Marshall73]

Why would you use safari in landscape on a phone?? You barely see any of the page. Even if you do, who puts the top of the phone on the right side? That’s just mental.

 

[Applejuiced]

That asymmetrical notch on the top of the screen is a huge turn off to me.
And the screen wrapping around those top hardware sensors and components it's ridiculous.
How do you put out something like that and then cut out the OLED screen around blank useless space?
No thank you, that's a very bad decision that wouldn't be made if Steve was still around.

 

[Tork]

Why would you use safari in landscape on a phone?? You barely see any of the page. Even if you do, who puts the top of the phone on the right side? That’s just mental.

I could see a lefty doing the second — but as to the first point, yeah, why would you use Safari in landscape??

 

[Mr.C]

Why would you use safari in landscape on a phone?? You barely see any of the page. Even if you do, who puts the top of the phone on the right side? That’s just mental.

I use Safari in landscape mode on my 7 plus the majority of the time. It works far better then portrait mode unless you're using the mobile versions of web sites which I don't like to do. Granted the iPhone x will provide a challenge with the notch getting in the way but it's a compromise I'm willing to make because overall it's a far better phone then the 7 Plus or 8 Plus.
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No thank you, that's a very bad decision that wouldn't be made if Steve was still around.

You have no idea whether Steve Jobs wouldn't make that decision or not. You're just making an assumption. I'm not defending Apple's design choice just saying you don't know how he would have thought or what decision he would have made.

 

[Applejuiced]

Off course I'm just saying judging by the sleek and nice designs that were put out when Steve was running the show.
To put out a nice OLED screen with parts of it cut off and missing on the top? Hell no.
That's not something I feel he would approve or put out.

You have no idea whether Steve Jobs wouldn't make that decision or not. You're just making an assumption. I'm not defending Apple's design choice just saying you don't know how he would have thought or what decision he would have made.

 

[Marshall73]

I use Safari in landscape mode on my 7 plus the majority of the time. It works far better then portrait mode unless you're using the mobile versions of web sites which I don't like to do. Granted the iPhone x will provide a challenge with the notch getting in the way but it's a compromise I'm willing to make because overall it's a far better phone then the 7 Plus or 8 Plus.
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You have no idea whether Steve Jobs wouldn't make that decision or not. You're just making an assumption. I'm not defending Apple's design choice just saying you don't know how he would have thought or what decision he would have made.

I use the Plus in portrait mode, easier and quicker to browse website unless you are hard of seeing. Gonna be worse on the X as it’s narrower than the plus so even less of the website. But, who puts the top of the phone on the right in landscape, thats just weird.

 

[Diorama]

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Off course I'm just saying judging by the sleek and nice designs that were put out when Steve was running the show.
To put out a nice OLED screen with parts of it cut off and missing on the top? Hell no.
That's not something I feel he would approve or put out.

He approved a smartphone without copy/paste.

 

[Gathomblipoob]

Why would you use safari in landscape on a phone??

I usually browse in landscape mode since my desktop browser is in landscape mode.

 

[Applejuiced]

That's software that was implemented well at a later time.
I'm assuming the screen cut out top notch will also be addressed later in future devices to be fully symmetrical without parts missing.

H


He approved a smartphone without copy/paste.

 

[subjonas]

Turning it over is a workaround.. who knew all these years I was using a workaround because I liked my home button on right when in landscape mode. All the years I like the iPhone, and now to know I was wrong. Whoe is me.

Why did you like it on the right?

But, who puts the top of the phone on the right in landscape, thats just weird.

As another user said, lefties?

 

[HEK]

Off course I'm just saying judging by the sleek and nice designs that were put out when Steve was running the show.
To put out a nice OLED screen with parts of it cut off and missing on the top? Hell no.
That's not something I feel he would approve or put out.

Steve would have put ears on top of phone to house sensors. Sorta like Mickey Mouse. Nice seperation for 3D camera and the screen would be completely intact. Plus ears at top would let you know which end was up so the cameras on back would be in same position. Same function the home button served, it let you know that part of phone was down.

 

[flat five]

I saw a video where when using Safari, scrolling up and down through a web page, the scroll bar that indicates where you are on the page (e.g. halfway down means 50%) actually gets obstructed by that notch when it goes through it! Is that something that happens in some "full screen mode", or is there some tweak that makes it visible when going through it (like it gets bumped outside the notch so it's now visible)?

the scroll bars, when the X is landscape with bezel on the right, will likely appear in the margins as shown at 5:20 in the following video:

https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/fall2017/801/

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(or 7:40)