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Normal humans aren’t lazy.

Actually, normal humans are VERY lazy.
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I usually browse in landscape mode since my desktop browser is in landscape mode.

Which is why aspect ratio of the X isn’t ideal. All of the extra size comes from height, not width. Let’s face it, the Plus is the best for any kind of landscape usage.
 
Why did you like it on the right?



As another user said, lefties?
Always knew where home button is. As well as always had same orientation for power, and volume switches. Also knew where and how to hold phone such that back side camera and flash were not covered by fingers and were at top left. Muscle memory and uniformity. Just makes sense to me. Actually get anxious when home button on left in landscape. Phsychologically disturbs me, makes me feel uneasy.

My SLR cameras all had the shutter button on right side. So using home button as shutter trigger had to be on right side. Looking at it objectively of course there is no right or wrong way. Yet I feel it being wrong when held with home button on left.
 
I don't know about that.
I'd Put the sensors on top across the earphone hole and then start the full size screen without any parts cut out under that.
I'd take that any day than what they're putting out now with this iPhone x release.

Steve would have put ears on top of phone to house sensors. Sorta like Mickey Mouse. Nice seperation for 3D camera and the screen would be completely intact. Plus ears at top would let you know which end was up so the cameras on back would be in same position. Same function the home button served, it let you know that part of phone was down.
 
That's a very easy fix for apple. Just make the scroll-bar surround the notch like its wrapping it. As I said, there are many ways the ui elements can take advantage of the iPhone X shape. Apple strangely doesn't seem to realize how much they can use the new shape of the phone as current implementations are thought for square screens with straight lines and shapes.
[doublepost=1507500337][/doublepost]Another fix: put the scroll-bar in the opposite side of the notch at all times.

See? Two options in five minutes that prove the notch per sè isn't a problem.
 
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Why did you like it on the right?



As another user said, lefties?
Yeah, but they are just wrong :D

But in all seriousness, why is there even a scroll bar?its not like you click and hold on it to scroll like on a computer, it’s just an indicator on iOS. It’s super slim and can easily sit in front of the notch without disturbing anything.

On the iPad, if you have the keyboard displaying the scroll bar disappears behind it, don’t hear anyone bitching about that.
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I usually browse in landscape mode since my desktop browser is in landscape mode.
but, on a desktop the browser is in a window unless you like lots of white space. On my desktops the browser windows are portrait, like sheets of A4 sitting side by side, the main reason displays are widescreen.
 
Off course I'm just saying judging by the sleek and nice designs that were put out when Steve was running the show.
To put out a nice OLED screen with parts of it cut off and missing on the top? Hell no.
That's not something I feel he would approve or put out.

Steve also approved the upside down Apple logo on all PowerBooks. He wasn’t infallible. Most of the design direction is under Johnny Ives conteol (just as it was when Jobs was around.) and heavily influenced by
Dieter Ramms.
 
Yes, but this nonsense wouldn't fly with Steve. The CEO still has the final say if he doesnt want to go with something.


Steve also approved the upside down Apple logo on all PowerBooks. He wasn’t infallible. Most of the design direction is under Johnny Ives conteol (just as it was when Jobs was around.) and heavily influenced by
Dieter Ramms.
 
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Yes, article says whatever it says that he left him alone but if he felt compelled enough he'd step in because that's how Steve was. He was a perfectionist ;)
This notch cut out from the screen is beyond moronic that I doubt he'd go for it.


http://appleinsider.com/articles/11...gner_jony_ive_more_power_than_anyone_at_apple

"He told Isaacson that Ive had 'more operational power' at Apple than anyone else besides Jobs himself —that there's no one at the company who can tell Ive what to do," the report said. "That, says Jobs, is 'the way I set it up.'"
 
Yes, article says whatever it says that he left him alone but if he felt compelled enough he'd step in because that's how Steve was. He was a perfectionist ;)
This notch cut out from the screen is beyond moronic that I doubt he'd go for it.

So you and Jobs were best buds? You know how his brain worked? Maybe you have something on record the back up your statement?

Jobs was very vocal about things he didn’t like. Steve’s thoughts on things like progress bars and a stylus for tablets have been captured on video. Did Jobs appreciate good design? That’s for sure! That’s why he selected Ive to handle those decisions.
 
Yes, we were really tight back then.
Tight enough to assume that he wouldn't allow this terrible design to be released. So you are assuming above that he would go for it?;) You got something on record to backup your statement that he would allow that cut out notch from the top of the screen? You know how his brain would have reacted to it? :D

Your stawman argument is a red herring. I never claimed Jobs would have approved of the notch. You’re attempting to shift the burden of proof. However it’s your assumption that Jobs wou,d be against it that I’m challenging.
 
Your stawman argument is a red herring. I never claimed Jobs would have approved of the notch. You’re attempting to shift the burden of proof. However it’s your assumption that Jobs wou,d be against it that I’m challenging.
Wow all these spokesmen for what Steve Jobs would or wouldn’t do. When I see them in their garage developing the latest new thing, well then some credibility might be demonstrated.
 
Guess what? I dont have to prove nothing to you.
Im assuming that he wouldnt allow it just like you are assuming that he would so get over it:D

That aside you know what they say about assumptions right? I never claimed Jobs would approve of the notch. Again you’re making asimptions and putting words in my mouth. I’m challenging that your assumption that Jobs would disapprove is without basis.

Wow all these spokesmen for what Steve Jobs would or wouldn’t do. When I see them in their garage developing the latest new thing, well then some credibility might be demonstrated.

That’s the thing... AppleJusticed is putting words in my mouth. I never claimed Jobs would have approved. I’m just asking that Applejuiced back up his claim that Jobs would disapprove.
 
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I saw a video where when using Safari, scrolling up and down through a web page, the scroll bar that indicates where you are on the page (e.g. halfway down means 50%) actually gets obstructed by that notch when it goes through it! Is that something that happens in some "full screen mode", or is there some tweak that makes it visible when going through it (like it gets bumped outside the notch so it's now visible)?

That notch has got to go for next year's iphone. Portrait mode with that notch is one thing. It's going. To be even more ugly using it landscape mode.
 
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Are we talking about the same Steve Jobs who released the iMac without a bloody floppy drive?
 
It’s either the notch, or a skinny upper bezel like design similar to EVERYONE else...Samsung etc.

The notch actually creates more screen space and it’s closer to bezel free than the other offerings.

And besides let’s actually use one first.
 
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I seem to remember everyone who wasn’t a certified kool-aid-drinking Apple cultist (and even some of them) thinking that it was monumentally stupid at the time.
 
[doublepost=1507581941][/doublepost]The cut out of the OLED screen does not create more screen space.
It takes away usable viewing and touchscreen space ;)

It’s either the notch, or a skinny upper bezel like design similar to EVERYONE else...Samsung etc.

The notch actually creates more screen space and it’s closer to bezel free than the other offerings.

And besides let’s actually use one first.
 
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I saw a video where when using Safari, scrolling up and down through a web page, the scroll bar that indicates where you are on the page (e.g. halfway down means 50%) actually gets obstructed by that notch when it goes through it! Is that something that happens in some "full screen mode", or is there some tweak that makes it visible when going through it (like it gets bumped outside the notch so it's now visible)?

That’s not how Safari works on the X.

Check out the developer guide lines on App layouts and safe margins.

Not sure why more people aren’t aware of this stuff, this thread is full of false information.
 
Can we just move on from the notch please? People like it. If you don't, it's time to move on as it's not going anywhere. You can go back and forth all you want, but it is the decision they made. Take it or leave it (we already know the answer, just move along).
 
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The cut out of the OLED screen does not create more screen space.
It takes away usable viewing and touchscreen space ;)

It really doesn’t though. The design of the X is closer to bezeless. A full upper bezel, as thin as it is is less screen space than the X.

Now if you want to talk about the notch getting in the way we’ll sure, but the design still gives the user more screen space.
 
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