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The display is not inferior. The person you have been posting back and forth with is a known Android troll. That's their entire purpose for being on this forum.

Not trolling ever, go check those display specs...it gives the inferiority away. Also ask MKBHD about that limited brightness....it was also washed out in some current videos released today. Reminds me of the Galaxy S5 display.
 
The only thing that surprises me is that Apple barely mentioned the screen in the keynote. In comparison to the ‘keynote-time’ the iPhone 4 Retina display got, the OLED X’s screen got some bullet points and that’s it.

Even the pre release reviews yesterday didn’t really mention the screen they all talked about the same things, animoji, AR and FaceID, probably all orchestrated by Apple.

I would just love to know why Apple went the AMOLED route and didn’t stick with its LCD.
 
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Could be because of the shape that they were going for. OLED’s are easier to shape and cut into than LCD. I’m disappointed the more I read about the display seeing as it looked on paper to be a big upgrade. Reading about OLED burn in and pentile structures is a bit of a bummer. I’d want this screen to be sharper than my plus if I’m dropping over 1200 on it. Were they really not able to secure Samsung’s best? Or did they go for a weaker build for battery life? I guess I’ll see Friday when I can directly compare it.
 
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For those receiving their iPhone X on Friday, I'm sure they will be more than pleasantly pleased with their display and not having to compare every intricacy between other phones.
 
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Could be because of the shape that they were going for. OLED’s are easier to shape and cut into than LCD. I’m disappointed the more I read about the display seeing as it looked on paper to be a big upgrade. Reading about OLED burn in and pentile structures is a bit of a bummer. I’d want this screen to be sharper than my plus if I’m dropping over 1200 on it. Were they really not able to secure Samsung’s best? Or did they go for a weaker build for battery life? I guess I’ll see Friday when I can directly compare it.
Absolutely no reason to be disappointed. The iPhone X display will be superior to what is found on the iPhone 8/8 Plus. Any suggestion otherwise is complete and utter nonsense.

https://www.macworld.com/article/32...the-iphone-xs-display-changes-everything.html

http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinion/oled-vs-led-lcd-2924602

https://www.maketecheasier.com/lcd-vs-oled-vs-amoled/
 
Absolutely no reason to be disappointed. The iPhone X display will be superior to what is found on the iPhone 8/8 Plus. Any suggestion otherwise is complete and utter nonsense.

https://www.macworld.com/article/32...the-iphone-xs-display-changes-everything.html

http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinion/oled-vs-led-lcd-2924602

https://www.maketecheasier.com/lcd-vs-oled-vs-amoled/

I wouldn't say complete nonsense. If you look into the technical details about the OLED panel they are using, at the PPI they advertise it should actually be a little bit softer than the LCD panel in the plus. They would have to pull off something rather remarkable to have that not be the case, it's just the case of the OLED technology having a lower "true" PPI to the advertised one. Seems like you need 550+ to have it be very competitive. If you are interested, I'd do some research on OLED pentile screens. It appears its using Samsung's diamond layout.

On other fronts I'm sure it will beat out the older models. I'm sure it will be calibrated very nicely and the colors/contrast will be untouchable by previous LCD models. Just appears that it might be a tiny bit less sharp than the plus, which is a little disappointment. Will it be a dealbreaker? Probably not, but I was hoping this model would knock everything out of the park, including resolution.
 
I am sure that there will be YouTube posters comparing the iPhone 8 plus and the new OLED screen side-by-side. If the OLED screen is vastly superior I would be surprised. If it’s a little bit better then the LCD 8+ then I would be disappointed.
 
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I prefer being able to dig into menus. That's what techies do so we can customize things to our liking. If you don't like it oh well. At least I have that option and prefer it.

That's not "what techies do", that's what YOU do. I'm a techie and I don't give two ***** about the so called "customisation" android offers.

So many are useless features, make the system unstable and generally just clutter the phone.

I'd rather have Apple calibrate my screen with people specifically hired for that, than I go do that at home.

I'd rather have Apple find the perfect resolution for the screen and OS so that everything looks great and all apps are optimised.

I'd rather have Apple putting apps in sandboxes than giving them access to everything on my phone.

I'd rather have Apple create flawless biometric validation methods than stuff you can fool with a picture,

I'd rather have Apple make a phone that works instead of something I can "customise" but when I actually want to get something done will increase my workload.

My €0,2
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They would have to pull off something rather remarkable to have that not be the case, it's just the case of the OLED technology having a lower "true" PPI to the advertised one. Seems like you need 550+ to have it be very competitive.

This is like the megapixel debate all over again... can we just agree that till now we have no reason Apple will disappoint us with their devices in terms of build quality and screen quality etc ?
 
I’m sure screen quality you won’t notice any difference from the S8

The screens Apple has from Samsung are 2017 panels so they are top of the range. Best off seeing the difference in person
 
Allegedly, iPhone X is not quite as sharp as Plus screens due to the subpixel res being technically lower, but has much better brightness and color
says who?
The X has higher PPI and oled complete blacks. Also the brightness is the same as the plus models.

It should be much sharper and have more detail because of the screen type it is...
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The display is not the best one Apple could’ve offered. That’s the bottom line. Apple should’ve tried to make improvements to the OLED but they didn’t it seems. This way it wouldn’t be just another OLED display. Apple customers don’t want cheap parts everyone else uses. They want the premium version of what the Note and other flagship phones use.
What do you think Sony did with this first year oled tv they have? ITs an LG oled with Sony processing.
Doesn't mean the panel is worse than the LG with LG processing...
Also Sony sells there set for more? Why is this? Because of processing. Same thing apple goes pretty deep into for screen calibration.
The Samsung phones are vibrant and punchy. But people can also see that as not a good thing as it isn't natural.

So screen tech aside they dont really have a "worse" oled panel.

You cant make judgement from a blurry picture on another screen I mean common.
Look at them side by side and compare. Only true way.
 
Not trolling ever, go check those display specs...it gives the inferiority away. Also ask MKBHD about that limited brightness....it was also washed out in some current videos released today. Reminds me of the Galaxy S5 display.

Are you saying the Galaxy S5 was washed out? It was actually the pinacle of peak contrast and classic samsung's oversaturation. It could do with some "wash" actually.
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The only thing that surprises me is that Apple barely mentioned the screen in the keynote. In comparison to the ‘keynote-time’ the iPhone 4 Retina display got, the OLED X’s screen got some bullet points and that’s it.

Even the pre release reviews yesterday didn’t really mention the screen they all talked about the same things, animoji, AR and FaceID, probably all orchestrated by Apple.

I would just love to know why Apple went the AMOLED route and didn’t stick with its LCD.

It helps that iphone 4 had a screen way ahead of their competition, they could make a big deal of it... Iphone's X screen is catch up, can't really brag much about it can't they?
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I am sure that there will be YouTube posters comparing the iPhone 8 plus and the new OLED screen side-by-side. If the OLED screen is vastly superior I would be surprised. If it’s a little bit better then the LCD 8+ then I would be disappointed.
If the only thing you know about screens is "run of the mill" spec sheets like ppi and brightness, then you'll be disapointed...

Pure blacks that OLED give, and superior pixel response alone give OLED huge advantage. Most of the bad rep OLED's got was from burn in and oversaturated look (wich samsung is to blame for poor software calibration, nothing to do with hardware)
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That's not "what techies do", that's what YOU do. I'm a techie and I don't give two ***** about the so called "customisation" android offers.

So many are useless features, make the system unstable and generally just clutter the phone.

I'd rather have Apple calibrate my screen with people specifically hired for that, than I go do that at home.

I'd rather have Apple find the perfect resolution for the screen and OS so that everything looks great and all apps are optimised.

I'd rather have Apple putting apps in sandboxes than giving them access to everything on my phone.

I'd rather have Apple create flawless biometric validation methods than stuff you can fool with a picture,

I'd rather have Apple make a phone that works instead of something I can "customise" but when I actually want to get something done will increase my workload.

My €0,2

I don't care about customization either. I'm some sort of a "techie" with a PC at home boosting multiple monitors, SSD's of all sorts... pretty fast systems. As a comercial photographer/videographer, I'm used to have fast and responsive high end PC's and Cameras.

This year I'm dumping Android for that exact reason, I can't handle Android's cluster**** of performance degradation.
 
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That's not "what techies do", that's what YOU do. I'm a techie and I don't give two ***** about the so called "customisation" android offers.

So many are useless features, make the system unstable and generally just clutter the phone.

I'd rather have Apple calibrate my screen with people specifically hired for that, than I go do that at home.

I'd rather have Apple find the perfect resolution for the screen and OS so that everything looks great and all apps are optimised.

I'd rather have Apple putting apps in sandboxes than giving them access to everything on my phone.

I'd rather have Apple create flawless biometric validation methods than stuff you can fool with a picture,

I'd rather have Apple make a phone that works instead of something I can "customise" but when I actually want to get something done will increase my workload.

My €0,2
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This is like the megapixel debate all over again... can we just agree that till now we have no reason Apple will disappoint us with their devices in terms of build quality and screen quality etc ?

Cool I just learned you rather have Apple control your tech Life. :rolleyes:
 
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Not trolling ever, go check those display specs...it gives the inferiority away. Also ask MKBHD about that limited brightness....it was also washed out in some current videos released today. Reminds me of the Galaxy S5 display.
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I wouldn't say complete nonsense. If you look into the technical details about the OLED panel they are using, at the PPI they advertise it should actually be a little bit softer than the LCD panel in the plus. They would have to pull off something rather remarkable to have that not be the case, it's just the case of the OLED technology having a lower "true" PPI to the advertised one. Seems like you need 550+ to have it be very competitive. If you are interested, I'd do some research on OLED pentile screens. It appears its using Samsung's diamond layout.

On other fronts I'm sure it will beat out the older models. I'm sure it will be calibrated very nicely and the colors/contrast will be untouchable by previous LCD models. Just appears that it might be a tiny bit less sharp than the plus, which is a little disappointment. Will it be a dealbreaker? Probably not, but I was hoping this model would knock everything out of the park, including resolution.

These are my concerns too. Not long to wait now to compare. Also the plus models are actually higher than 1080p and then downsampled to make them 1080p.
 
I have a crazy idea... How about we enjoy the phone for what it is? Instead of saying what it doesn't have compared to other OLED panels. Or why Samsung's displays are better.. No one can say anything factual cause none of us have it in hand so none of us can judge anything at this point.
 
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I don't care about customization either. I'm some sort of a "techie" with a PC at home boosting multiple monitors, SSD's of all sorts... pretty fast systems. As a comercial photographer/videographer, I'm used to have fast and responsive high end PC's and Cameras.

This year I'm dumping Android for that exact reason, I can't handle Android's cluster**** of performance degradation.

Anyone who likes technology and is keeping track of what is upcoming and fairly new can call himself a techie in my book. That's why I called myself a techie.

I think a lot of people want to be special as in "look at me I'm such a techie I need android cus I wanna customise everything even though I have no clue what I'm doing".

To each their own of course, but I trust Apple and their talented engineers/professionals to give me a very solid product with great hardware as well as software.
 
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No one should have to dig into menus and tinker with settings to have an accurate screen. It should just be default.

Who cares about being able to change the resolution as well. Such a pointless “feature”. It’s comical Samsung promotes their display as 1440p QHD but yet they default the resolution to 1080p out the box.

Well let’s see, you can run 1080p for higher game frame rates or to get better battery life, or you can run 1440p for virtual reality where that higher resolution matters. It’s a pretty good feature, but I can see why someone who’s against anything that’s not Apple doesn’t understand it.
 
You check Apple's spec sheet...I only pointed out the facts that Apple gave us on its website....a subpar ppi a subpar resolution and a subpar brightness compared to the best out there.

Even MKBHD said it didn't get as bright and vivid as he would have preferred compared to the galaxies.
A) Pixel density isn't the complete story. Apple calibrates the anti-aliasing on each OLED display at the subpixel level, therefore making the Diamond PenTile not noticeable. Samsung does not do that and despite having a very nice screen, mind you over-saturated, the pixel matrix is noticeable and does make the image less sharper than it would otherwise be on the Galaxy line. There is not a single person in the world who will convince me that PenTile does not have a bad effect on the Galaxy screens. I would bet a months paycheck Samsung will start calibrating the displays at the subpixel level similarly to Apple.

B) MKBHD only said in the initial hands-on video that his Note 8 did get brighter in the hands-on area they had to work with. Now, reviews this morning have said that the iPhone X OLED display is very easy to view in direct sunlight, which is all that really matters when talking how bright a display does or doesn't get.
 
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Using Samsung's displays but Apple designing and customizing it the way they want, the X's display could be almost every X owners' favorite feature. Not Face ID or Animoji. Not the rear camera which is essentially the same as the 8 Plus which lost badly to the Pixel 2 XL in still photos from SuperSaf's comparison.

Display - X's standout feature

Gesture controls is software-based. Could always be added on future updates for older iPhones to use.
 
Apple has had always nice screens. The 750p was low, yes. But it was really good for that resolution. I have no doubt about the screen of the X.

Samsung has basic screen option which look about the same as an iPhone. So please stop saying the Samsung displays are over saturated. It's not with the basic option.
 
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A) Pixel density isn't the complete story. Apple calibrates the anti-aliasing on each OLED display at the subpixel level, therefore making the Diamond PenTile not noticeable. Samsung does not do that and despite having a very nice screen, mind you over-saturated, the pixel matrix is noticeable and does make the image less sharper than it would otherwise be on the Galaxy line. There is not a single person in the world who will convince me that PenTile does not have a bad effect on the Galaxy screens. I would bet a months paycheck Samsung will start calibrating the displays at the subpixel level similarly to Apple.

B) MKBHD only said in the initial hands-on video that his Note 8 did get brighter in the hands-on area they had to work with. Now, reviews this morning have said that the iPhone X OLED display is very easy to view in direct sunlight, which is all that really matters when talking how bright a display does or doesn't get.

No pixel arrangement is noticeable on the Note 8 (the lie of all lies by you and there are people on here who will tell you this too)...thats bullcrap and you know it (the screen is sharp and clear as day). Enjoy your 1125p screen and stop trying to make the iphone X screen seem better than the Note 8. Read displaymate and read plenty of reviews on the Note 8's amazing screen. No one has been truly amazed by the iphone X screen, its nice but there is no blown away assertions for its greatness except for Apple die hard fans. And samsung already uses diamond sub-pixel rendering and calibrates their various display modes utilizing it.
 
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No pixel arrangement is noticeable on the Note 8...thats bullcrap and you know it (the screen is sharp and clear as day). Enjoy your 1125p screen and stop trying to make the iphone X screen seem better than the Note 8. Read displaymate and read plenty of reviews on the Note 8's amazing screen. No one has been truly amazed by the iphone X screen, its nice but there is no blown away assertions for its greatness except for Apple die hard fans. And samsung already uses diamond sub-pixel rendering and calibrates their various display modes utilizing it.
I said the Note 8 display is very nice...but you're not going to tell me it is sharper looking to your eye than even the 8 Plus 1080p LCD display. Sorry, it's just not. And PenTile is to blame for that.
 
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