I think using a note8 has made him ornery.
Everyone knows he secretly wants an iPhone
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I think using a note8 has made him ornery.
Everyone knows he secretly wants an iPhone
Per TechCrunch:
Another major feature, another big risk. Organic light-emitting diode, OLED, screens have been prized for their much better color and ability to “turn off” completely at the pixel level, leading to deeper blacks. But, especially in smartphones, they’ve also been plagued by poor off-axis viewing, rough color balance, issues being driven by onboard graphics cards and latent screen images that get “burned in” over time.
The Google Pixel 2 is getting a drubbing currently for falling prey to a few of these issues. People who obsess over screens have been waiting to see whether the iPhone X is able to hurdle these issues and come up with a better implementation of OLED.
The answer is yes, mostly.
Apple’s version of an OLED screen is manufactured by Samsung, but is not an off-the-shelf Samsung part. It’s a custom-built, diamond-pattern OLED array that was built to Apple specifications and driven by an Apple display driver. This screen is not comparable to screens found in Samsung devices on a variety of levels. You can like those screens just fine, I’m not arguing that, but this is absolutely not an implementation of a standard Samsung part.
The colors are bright and saturated, without blocking up — a big problem with red and magenta colors, typically. The True Tone screen means that you’re getting more accurate balance indoors and out as well. I could tell how my images would and should look even if I was viewing them under artificial light.
I hate to say it, but it makes the iPhone 8 Plus LCD look kind of like butt. I love it, even though it is flawed in one noticeable way.
The one area where this display falls prey to standard OLED gripes is in off-axis viewing. Apple tells me that it has done work to counter the drop-in saturation and shift to blue that affects OLED screens traditionally. I can tell you that, compared to other OLED screens, you have to get further “off of center” to see a real shift in color, holding the phone 30 degrees or more off of dead on. But it is still there. For people who share their phone’s screen or use it at odd angles a lot, it will be noticeable. On some phones, OLEDs go super blue. On the iPhone X it’s more of a slight blue shift with a reduction in saturation and dynamic range. It’s not terrible, but it definitely exists.
From the front-ish though? Wooof. It’s good. At a brightness of 640 nits, the view-ability is insane in the sun — much, much better than the iPhone 8 LCD. It’s hard to capture via photograph to be honest (though we tried), but in person you’ll be impressed by how easy it is to use in direct light. This helped a ton when walking back and forth from the interior of ride buildings to exterior walkways and looking at images while walking around under the molten, ever-present eye of a merciless star.
That, coupled with the True Tone tech makes images look better and brighter on the iPhone than any other Apple device, iMac included. It even makes pictures taken on other devices look better.
I haven’t been using the phone long enough to determine whether it is “burn-in proof” or whatever you want to call it, but Apple insists that it has done a ton of work to mitigate the problem. And I do use Twitter, with a static menu bar, a whole heck of a lot and see no burn in so far. That’s the best info I can give you besides that the Pixel 2’s burn-in started showing up pretty quickly.
Another major feature, another big risk. Organic light-emitting diode, OLED, screens have been prized for their much better color and ability to “turn off” completely at the pixel level, leading to deeper blacks. But, especially in smartphones, they’ve also been plagued by poor off-axis viewing, rough color balance, issues being driven by onboard graphics cards and latent screen images that get “burned in” over time.
The Google Pixel 2 is getting a drubbing currently for falling prey to a few of these issues. People who obsess over screens have been waiting to see whether the iPhone X is able to hurdle these issues and come up with a better implementation of OLED.
The answer is yes, mostly.
Apple’s version of an OLED screen is manufactured by Samsung, but is not an off-the-shelf Samsung part. It’s a custom-built, diamond-pattern OLED array that was built to Apple specifications and driven by an Apple display driver. This screen is not comparable to screens found in Samsung devices on a variety of levels. You can like those screens just fine, I’m not arguing that, but this is absolutely not an implementation of a standard Samsung part.
The colors are bright and saturated, without blocking up — a big problem with red and magenta colors, typically. The True Tone screen means that you’re getting more accurate balance indoors and out as well. I could tell how my images would and should look even if I was viewing them under artificial light.
I hate to say it, but it makes the iPhone 8 Plus LCD look kind of like butt. I love it, even though it is flawed in one noticeable way.
The one area where this display falls prey to standard OLED gripes is in off-axis viewing. Apple tells me that it has done work to counter the drop-in saturation and shift to blue that affects OLED screens traditionally. I can tell you that, compared to other OLED screens, you have to get further “off of center” to see a real shift in color, holding the phone 30 degrees or more off of dead on. But it is still there. For people who share their phone’s screen or use it at odd angles a lot, it will be noticeable. On some phones, OLEDs go super blue. On the iPhone X it’s more of a slight blue shift with a reduction in saturation and dynamic range. It’s not terrible, but it definitely exists.
From the front-ish though? Wooof. It’s good. At a brightness of 640 nits, the view-ability is insane in the sun — much, much better than the iPhone 8 LCD. It’s hard to capture via photograph to be honest (though we tried), but in person you’ll be impressed by how easy it is to use in direct light. This helped a ton when walking back and forth from the interior of ride buildings to exterior walkways and looking at images while walking around under the molten, ever-present eye of a merciless star.
That, coupled with the True Tone tech makes images look better and brighter on the iPhone than any other Apple device, iMac included. It even makes pictures taken on other devices look better.
I haven’t been using the phone long enough to determine whether it is “burn-in proof” or whatever you want to call it, but Apple insists that it has done a ton of work to mitigate the problem. And I do use Twitter, with a static menu bar, a whole heck of a lot and see no burn in so far. That’s the best info I can give you besides that the Pixel 2’s burn-in started showing up pretty quickly.
My favorite part was the bit about making the iPhone 8 screen look like butt! Haha...so glad I bought the X over the 8. The iPhone of the future, rather than yesterday.
But really, at these display sizes the difference is negligible. Your eye isn’t actually going to see those added pixels.
Really appreciate that Apple labors to customize components to their highest standard. Also feel their disregard for OLED in the previous years were justified.
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ppi doesn't mean much at this level.
Only different you'd notice is in VR
I’m fairly certain the iPhone gets brighter than stated in auto brightness.
I speculated awhile ago that Apple would use their own patents for a unique OLED formulation rather than sourcing an off the shelf Samsung panel.
Seems like this is true. Samsung is just a fabrication facility for an Apple OLED design based on numerous reports.
It certainly kills the notion that Apple is buying older generation OLED panels because Samsung won’t sell the “the best.”
Seems like this is true. Samsung is just a fabrication facility for an Apple OLED design based on numerous reports.
It certainly kills the notion that Apple is buying older generation OLED panels because Samsung won’t sell the “the best.”
What’s so hard to ****ing understand? Apple has Samsung manufacture their OLED screen but Apple has them custom built them to their specs and design. Apple is going for an OLED display that matches the real world natural colors. That’s what they wanted to design. Not to beat another competitor’s display. Apple designed what they think is the right display for their phone. Just like google with their pixel 2. They went with a display that shows true natural colors of the real world. Each company has their opinion on what that is. Out of all 3 phones, the pixel 2 is less colorful than the IPhone X. The iPhone X is in between the pixel and Samsung. Samsung likes to over do their colors on their phone.
That’s all it is. Their opinion on what real natural color their OLED screen should display. Not a homer, but I like iPhone X display the best. With the pixel 2 coming in 2nd. Samsung’s for me is just to colorful and is not close to real world colors. Pixel 2 is a tad dull on color. Not by much though. Still a good display showing real world colors. iPhone X is in between and is perfect for the pictures I want. Just enough color to show real world colors but not exaggerated.
Not one is better. It’s whatever your opinion is what a picture should look like. Depending what you want them to look, you have options.
That’s all it is. Their opinion on what real natural color their OLED screen should display. Not a homer, but I like iPhone X display the best. With the pixel 2 coming in 2nd. Samsung’s for me is just to colorful and is not close to real world colors. Pixel 2 is a tad dull on color. Not by much though. Still a good display showing real world colors. iPhone X is in between and is perfect for the pictures I want. Just enough color to show real world colors but not exaggerated.
Not one is better. It’s whatever your opinion is what a picture should look like. Depending what you want them to look, you have options.
Everything I have read indicates it is in fact a Samsung diamond pentile screen, similar to what is used in the Note 8 but with a lower contrast ratio. There is no "special magic" going on here from Apple.
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Another person who has obviously never owned a Samsung phone, im not even going to bother pointing out why...A simple google search should inform you.
Seems not logical. Apple anyhow specified OLED specs and suddenly those panels can be made to those specifications. Like the last 10 years that Samsung has taken to perfect OLED tecnology seems insignificant.
If it is that easy, why didn't apple go with others to manufacture the OLED instead of shamelessly crawling back to Samsung?
Yup. That’s what’s being reported.
Custom built oled display to Apples specification with an Apple display driver.
Why is that illogical?
“Apple’s version of an OLED screen is manufactured by Samsung, but is not an off-the-shelf Samsung part. It’s a custom-built, diamond-pattern OLED array that was built to Apple specifications and driven by an Apple display driver. This screen is not comparable to screens found in Samsung devices on a variety of levels. You can like those screens just fine, I’m not arguing that, but this is absolutely not an implementation of a standard Samsung part.”
If the apple panel differs that much then the manufacturing process or techniques or the tech involved have to change or modified or invented. This is highly unlikely.
Most probably the customization is maybe the panel cutting / size / aspect /custom software driver.
The panel itself is just the same as those used in other Samsung galaxy phones but of lower grade (in terms of ppi and brightness)
Exactly, people are reading this "“Apple’s version of an OLED screen is manufactured by Samsung, but is not an off-the-shelf Samsung part. It’s a custom-built, diamond-pattern OLED array that was built to Apple specifications and driven by an Apple display driver." and assuming it means there is some sort of Apple research being implemented into the hardware panel itself, its custom in that it's manufactured at a specified size and shape with kpi's that Apple have set that have to be met in regards to contrast and panel quality. Samsung are the ones with the years of experience with these panels, not Apple. There is a reason Apple is getting Samsung to make the panels and not LG...
And what does that get you in the end? I would imagine that if you were shown a 1x1 (inch) square (blocking out what phone you were looking at) that you wouldn’t see any differences with the naked eye.
Samsung makes awesome displays, but they also like to play the spec game to cater to their zealots who obsess over specs.
I’m sure more specific information will drop over the next few weeks once the deep tech circuit start deep diving into the X. However there’s more than more party now citing the iPhone X panel is not a COTS purchase from a Samsung parts bin.
And it is known that Apple hired a prominent OLED researcher back in 2013.
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/02/08/apple-hires-senior-oled-expert-from-lg-display/
They didn’t hire him for nothing.
You keep saying it’s a lower grade panel used in other Samsung Galaxy phones, basically refuting what is being reported by both verge and techcrunch.
TechCrunch:
“Apple’s version of an OLED screen is manufactured by Samsung, but is not an off-the-shelf Samsung part. It’s a custom-built, diamond-pattern OLED array that was built to Apple specifications and driven by an Apple display driver. This screen is not comparable to screens found in Samsung devices on a variety of levels. You can like those screens just fine, I’m not arguing that, but this is absolutely not an implementation of a standard Samsung part.”
Verge:
“Apple’s using a Samsung-manufactured OLED panel with a PenTile pixel layout on the iPhone X, but it’s insistent that it was custom-engineered and designed in-house. Whatever the case, the results are excellent”
Are you just making stuff up again?
Post your sources.
That has to do with scaling, I am talking about the ability to see individual pixels on the screen. I would bet you can’t see individual pixels with the naked eye on any of these devices.
That said, with VR goggles essentially magnifying the screens, I would expect the possibility to see differences between the S8 and some other phones, but, I still doubt it would be visible.
What's more conclusive than physical specs? X is lower ppi and brightness (thus lower specs/quality) All I am saying are these facts and nothing else.
If you want to debate subjective quality based on eye-balling the screen - then wait for those subjective you tube video reviews or appleinsider comparison
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