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Download speeds here in Austria in the outskirts of Vienna in the A1 network improved significantly from on an average of 160 Mbps with my "old" iPhone 8 to now on an average of 220 Mbps with the new iPhone Xs. The upload is also better: There is an improvement from 60 to 90 Mbps.

And, I have absolutely no issues with LTE/3G/E reception. I compared the Xs using the field test mode with my "old" 8, a 7 and a X from last year... The differences are negligible!

Problems with Wifi? Not here in Austria! My Xs always connects to the 5 GHz network if available...
 
If Qualcomm currently offer the better modem, then this is what I want. It is unfortunate that won't happen anytime soon since Apple and Qualcomm are in a middle of a feud. In reality, speed will depend on where you live anyway and it is not consistent. The carriers really need to improve coverage to have consistent signals. So all these test on speeds don't matter that much.

I wish Apple would stop screwing around and just buy Qualcomm. With the money they have pissed down the drain the past few years on share buybacks, they could easily have purchased Qualcomm. It's time for Apple to get serious about this issue!
That's a good idea and it would end the drama.
Considering what Apple charges for their phones they really should have the best modem chips available. Use Qualcomm even if it costs a few dollars more. Your customers are paying big and deserve this, Tim.
I agree for what Apple charges, it should have the best available modem except they are in a middle of a feud.
 
I have to admit even as a long time Apple user, that Samsung do things pretty well and far earlier than Apple. I don't know how well Samsung phones do when they are a couple of years old compared to a two year old iPhone but my perception is that a two year old iPhone will perform better than a equivalent 2 year old Samsung.

Also another thing Samsung does is give you more for your money. You'd think that if you spent nearly $1500 on an iPhone they should include a wireless charger as the absolute minimum but in fairness should also include Airpods at that price.

In my opinion in the last 5 years or so Apple has become more and more fixated with their profit margin. The estimated gross profit they make on the base model iPhone Xs Max is £750 per unit! The profit margins are even bigger on the phones with bigger storage. - source: zdnet.com

That's courage!

The only thing that is keeping me loyal to Apple (and I suspect many others) is iOS, iCloud and the Apple Ecosystem.

But no company is Top Dog forever so Apple should be careful not to take the p*ss out of its loyal customer base with what they offer for the price they charge.
 
Doesn't seam like a very controlled test, I would say I would like to see lab controlled tests but I really don't care about the difference between 340Mbps and 350Mbps on a phone.

You won't get those speeds when browsing the web anyway as web pages are too small for the device to get upto those speeds before the page has loaded.
 
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Really, does anyone besides the nitpickers care when the difference in all these speed tests is so minor and the performance, even of the slowest flagships (or last years flagships for that matter), is far in excess of what they need?
 
Sure, except none of that is true.

Care to show me an alternative phone form any oem that matches apples current hardware;

You know, 7nm soc, 8core npu, 3d facial biometrics, the fastest on board storage with nvme, edge to edge flat display without a forehead or nasty chin.
There is much more but let’s just stick with that.

I will wait, take your time.




Still waiting.....nothing, yeah I thought so.

Not contesting this, but I am curious to see how the Huawei Mate 20 performs. They're bringing a 7nm to Android.
 
Not contesting this, but I am curious to see how the Huawei Mate 20 performs. They're bringing a 7nm to Android.

Can’t wait to see how it performs as well.

Didn’t think any android oems would have it this year. Looks like Huawei is really gunning for Samsung’s number 1 position. Let’s see what happens.

Do you know what kind of storage they use?
Ufs or have they switched to nvme?
 
God, I really wish Apple’s pricing was a bit more reasonable. With the profit margin on the internals I feel like I’m paying half my price ($1500+) just for the OS.

Right, because the only cost to make an iPhone is the “estimated” price of the components (which we have no real way of knowing are even accurate). You have to pay for manufacturing, shipping, retail staff, retail space, hardware development, software development, advertising, testing, regulatory clearance, international translation, etc. But hey, if you want to save yourself some money, go ahead and buy all the individual components and build yourself a phone for cheap! I’m sure it’ll be easy.
 
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Really, does anyone besides the nitpickers care when the difference in all these speed tests is so minor and the performance, even of the slowest flagships (or last years flagships for that matter), is far in excess of what they need?

Actually I do. It's a good gauge of how much throughput I can get out of any one device. I don't use WiFi too much so I use my devices to download files and media on the fly. I totally agree that I’m general the speed is fine because most people aren’t downloading big piles of data so the difference is moot but it scales up the bigger something is you need to download and equates to time savings to move on to different tasks. I can hit 200mbps at work and it really helps me.
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Can’t wait to see how it performs as well.

Didn’t think any android oems would have it this year. Looks like Huawei is really gunning for Samsung’s number 1 position. Let’s see what happens.

Do you know what kind of storage they use?
Ufs or have they switched to nvme?

Not sure it’s all really just rumors and leaks still.
 
To be honest iPhone's have never been the quickest with data speeds (and WiFi has always been considerably weaker). I'm not sure why they had to add additional antenna bands this year when they didn't on the X.
 
To be honest iPhone's have never been the quickest with data speeds (and WiFi has always been considerably weaker). I'm not sure why they had to add additional antenna bands this year when they didn't on the X.

They need them for the 4x4 mimo
 
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Sure it does ;)

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Exactly, isn’t the real story here why the networks are so slow across the pond. Over here to the east the investments gone where it matters, and then one can respond with rolls Royce style answers when someone enquiries about the speed; it’s enough :)
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No it doesn’t, what is had is the screen you prefer. What you prefer and what is best can be different which is fine. But let’s not confuse matters.

The only website is claiming it has a better screen is those displaymate people. Every YouTuber and other reviewers, have debunk that nonsense review, and the facts are not confused, I'm looking at both phones right now, I use both everyday.
 
I think that a lot of tech articles like this forget the most important reality. Few of us these days just buy a mobile phone to make calls and send text messages. Most of us have an entire ecosystem of products. For me I have a MacBook Pro, an iPad Pro and now the iPhone XS Max. All three devices perform very well and more importantly work extremely well together.

Even if I were to believe that Samsung or Google had produced a significantly superior phone, would it fit with my other devices better than the XS Max? I hardly think so.

Is there any cell phone on the market that would encourage me to throw out my entire ecosystem, and buy a new laptop, new tablet, all new software and media? Because that would cost about $10K or more. Unlikely to happen.

So I don't really care about other phones, I just buy the best one Apple makes each year, and so far I've been very well satisfied over multiple products from multiple generations in the past seven or eight years.

This is the key point. I am fully invested in the Apple ecosystem, have been since my Mac Plus. Regardless of all of the bitch'in on these forums, in my opinion, the way the suite of Apple devices work together is the best.
 
Exactly, isn’t the real story here why the networks are so slow across the pond. Over here to the east the investments gone where it matters, and then one can respond with rolls Royce style answers when someone enquiries about the speed; it’s enough :)
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No it doesn’t, what is had is the screen you prefer. What you prefer and what is best can be different which is fine. But let’s not confuse matters.

 
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The only website is claiming it has a better screen is those displaymate people. Every YouTuber and other reviewers, have debunk that nonsense review, and the facts are not confused, I'm looking at both phones right now, I use both everyday.
You do realise that looking at something and liking what you see is a preference. That is not emperical evidence. There is nothing wrong with having a preference. Many people prefer the unnatural look of a whole variety of screens. That is absolutely normal and fine. It doesn’t mean it is measurable better though. That is a huge distinction.
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Pardon thé expression but God Help is when YouTube opinion pieces become empirical evidence. Next time let’s not study science, let’s not get a thesis reviewed and confirmed by peers, all it requires is a few likes on YouTube ;)
 
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"I knew I forgot something about this new iPhone"


Its Tim's "One More Thing".

It doesn't charge, there's nothing new in it, the signal is inferior but there's

One more thing..... THE PRICE !!! :). Its are most expensive iPhone EVER!
 
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Marginal difference and people are up in arms over basically non issue.
Unless you are an X owner? Until 2 weeks ago, basically the supposed best smartphone to have ever existed...certainly one of the most expensive?
 
Does the Note's larger size mean larger antenna in the frame and that is something that iPhone form factor just won't be able to overcome?

In any case, this only becomes meaningful at the tail end when the signal is weak.
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God, I really wish Apple’s pricing was a bit more reasonable. With the profit margin on the internals I feel like I’m paying half my price ($1500+) just for the OS.

It isn't that bad. But yes you are paying for the OS. But think about it this way, you are going to get an OS refresh 3, 4, and 5 years from now. Galaxy owners aren't going to get that if past behavior is any indication. Security updates won't be as fast either. And more significantly might end all together well before the phone is on its last legs.
 
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