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I think one of the great thing is that this proves if that under the same received -dbm, Intel's Modem is finally performing very close to Qualcomm's offering.

The problem?

iPhone Xs are not getting the same signal strength under the same circumstances. So far the figures points to roughly 5 -db loses. So you should read the graph with that in mind.
 
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Yes I am here’s another taken just now.


So the intel modem is capable of much more than those charts show

It entirely depends on the network.

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Interesting. Just read this comparison between the Qualcomm X20 and intel 7560 modem.

Intel XMM 7560 Review

Intel is another world's leading mobile and PC chipmaker that is interested with 5G LTE network. According to The Inquirer, the company now prepares for the launching of XMM 7560 Gigabit LTE modem, built from 14nm manufacturing process that offers dual LTE and power optimization features as well.

Intel XMM 7560 Gigabit LTE modem is reportedly faster than Qualcomm Snapdragon X20 modem because aside from undergoing the 14nm manufacturing process, it also offers flexibility and supports 5x carrier with combined downlink of 100MHz and 3x carrier for uplink upto 60MHz. Aside from networking, Intel's modem also contributes to extend device's battery life may it be smartphones or tablet.
 
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Considering what Apple charges for their phones they really should have the best modem chips available. Use Qualcomm even if it costs a few dollars more. Your customers are paying big and deserve this, Tim.
 
I think that a lot of tech articles like this forget the most important reality. Few of us these days just buy a mobile phone to make calls and send text messages. Most of us have an entire ecosystem of products. For me I have a MacBook Pro, an iPad Pro and now the iPhone XS Max. All three devices perform very well and more importantly work extremely well together.

Even if I were to believe that Samsung or Google had produced a significantly superior phone, would it fit with my other devices better than the XS Max? I hardly think so.

Is there any cell phone on the market that would encourage me to throw out my entire ecosystem, and buy a new laptop, new tablet, all new software and media? Because that would cost about $10K or more. Unlikely to happen.

So I don't really care about other phones, I just buy the best one Apple makes each year, and so far I've been very well satisfied over multiple products from multiple generations in the past seven or eight years.
 
Interesting. Just read this comparison between the Qualcomm X20 and intel 7560 modem.

Intel XMM 7560 Review

Intel is another world's leading mobile and PC chipmaker that is interested with 5G LTE network. According to The Inquirer, the company now prepares for the launching of XMM 7560 Gigabit LTE modem, built from 14nm manufacturing process that offers dual LTE and power optimization features as well.

Intel XMM 7560 Gigabit LTE modem is reportedly faster than Qualcomm Snapdragon X20 modem because aside from undergoing the 14nm manufacturing process, it also offers flexibility and supports 5x carrier with combined downlink of 100MHz and 3x carrier for uplink upto 60MHz. Aside from networking, Intel's modem also contributes to extend device's battery life may it be smartphones or tablet.


It kind of makes sense doesn’t it. If other oems found out that intel modems are just as good as Qualcomm, their monopolistic practices would have to end.

And Qualcomm really doesn’t want that.
 
The biggest problem with apple of late, is their penny pinching to save a few cents here and there, as the prices of their products have increased quite a bit. For what they charge for these phones now, everything should be top shelf but its not. They could put better components in them. But that would take away from their already inflated margins. Unfortunately you don't completely get what you pay for with apple. They have gotten worse. The intel modem's have been a big nightmare since iphone 7. They are more about greed than ever. They have gotten sloppy in hardware and software too. They honestly don't deserve the returns and profits they have been getting. But as long as there are enough people making excuses for them it wont stop and will only get worse.
 
It seems like I get same or faster download speed with Max, but slower upload compared to my Qualcomm 7+.
 
Marginal difference and people are up in arms over basically non issue.

If you look carefully at the posters that are upset, it usually the ones that have no interest in the iPhone. It’s just more of the same.
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It seems like I get same or faster download speed with Max, but slower upload compared to my Qualcomm 7+.


Rene Ritchie posted this on Instagram, comparing the intel modem in the Xs to the Qualcomm modem on the X.

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Pretty sure there was a poster in another thread that claimed this was impossible. Guess he was wrong.
 
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Exactly, isn’t the real story here why the networks are so slow across the pond. Over here to the east the investments gone where it matters, and then one can respond with rolls Royce style answers when someone enquiries about the speed; it’s enough :)
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Note 9 clearly has the best screen, I own both and I can see with my own eyes.
No it doesn’t, what is had is the screen you prefer. What you prefer and what is best can be different which is fine. But let’s not confuse matters.
 
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The biggest problem with apple of late, is their penny pinching to save a few cents here and there, as the prices of their products have increased quite a bit. For what they charge for these phones now, everything should be top shelf but its not. They could put better components in them. But that would take away from their already inflated margins. Unfortunately you don't completely get what you pay for with apple. They have gotten worse. The intel modem's have been a big nightmare since iphone 7. They are more about greed than ever. They have gotten sloppy in hardware and software too. They honestly don't deserve the returns and profits they have been getting. But as long as there are enough people making excuses for them it wont stop and will only get worse.

Sure, except none of that is true.

Care to show me an alternative phone form any oem that matches apples current hardware;

You know, 7nm soc, 8core npu, 3d facial biometrics, the fastest on board storage with nvme, edge to edge flat display without a forehead or nasty chin.
There is much more but let’s just stick with that.

I will wait, take your time.




Still waiting.....nothing, yeah I thought so.
 
Can’t win them all. Did win the best screen though.

Well that depends, there are some really dull and lifeless screens out there.
An LG / Samsung difference?
And Apple did of course selectively pick the phone to send for test, so I don't suppose they picked an LG screen model to send them.
 
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Impressive boost from X to Xs. Still waiting mine, exited to test it.
Note 9 result are impressive too even it is is bigger. Maybe iPad Pro 2018 will beat everyone with bigger antennas.
 
I hope there will be more things like this. We need competition and we need it more and more. Right now everyone is following what Apple does. It would be nice to have a shake up so Apple would try harder and overall the market would benefit.

WHAT are you talking about? "Try harder"... seriously? Do you really view the latest iPhones as lacklustre products? What more do you want that's possible with modem technology?

This viewpoint that somehow Apple is barely making any effort is completely misaligned with reality. People that see the world through that lens have zero appreciation for (or clue of) just how complex today's smartphones are. Apple is achieving a level of finished product unmatched by the completion when *all* factors are considered.
 
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