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Oh thank god this was one of my biggest fears with these tariffs because as we all know, you. cant build a modern day device without having some elements having to be made in china. I was truly terrified that the new computer i was looking to buy and a Ipad Pro would cost me twice as much, and come the fall id be paying double even with trade in for the new Iphone and Apple Watch Ultra.

Do i still think we should build SOME items here in the US? Yes. Do i ever imagine a situation were we build iphones here? No!
Could have built them anywhere except China and paid only 10 percent. The point is to quit feeding China. I wonder how many Americans understand what China's government is and how the people manufacturing these iPhones get treated like slaves. They have no hope, and China's cities are amazing and full of technology built off the backs of its own people so they can dominate the world. China is what America was 50 years ago; so far ahead of the rest of the world. US dollars building China's money supply, military, infrastructure, cities, roads, amazing high-speed mass transit, and Americans have nothing but their own marketing BS to blame for their addictions to buying cheap crap made from slaves in poor countries dominating where few steal all the money for the wealthiest 1 percent.

Trump's lies are going to start costing him his own supporters, too. His supporters seem to believe him, while the others hate him. Will be nice when the whole society seems him for the greed and lies. All the words are just words, until the real backend of the government changes everything - the thing is this shows the President doesn't really control anything as if he did he wouldn't cave so easily. Apple needs an exemption like the average person needs a lobotomy. If anything, I think things manufactured in Taiwan are the only parts that should be exempt from any tariffs. Oh but Americans would be ticked if Tim Crook charged them double for their iPhones. Make Apple products in the free world where the money will not get used to build a military to destroy Taiwan and anyone who gets in its way.
 
Ok so, just an observation… (and mods apologies if this is off-topic, feel free to remove)

I was under the impression these tariffs were for two things… 1, to reshore manufacturing to America; and 2, to offet revenue losses from the upcoming tax cuts.

So, if these have MASSIVE loopholes, they really weren’t to reshore manufacturing. Also, if they are only for more niche products, that won’t nearly be enough revenue to offset tax cuts.

So what are these tariffs for? Is it just a cheap political gimmick? Is it market manipulation?
Trump is a song and dance man. Not a policy guy. So he likes to make big waves, upend the cart and make some noise. Many of his supporters love him for that especially when it gets people upset. Then there are some others that sometimes (not guaranteed always) come in and help clean up the mess.
 
DO we REALLY REALLY need a new phone every dindiongdingaling year?
we need a M&F Paris-Roubaix, The Masters and spring weather every year ONLY!
 
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DO we REALLY REALLY need a new phone every dindiongdingaling year?
we need a M&F Paris-Roubaix, The Masters and spring weather every year ONLY!
I know I don't. I upgrade about ever three years. BUT my hope is that we live in a free and capitalist country and so if a company makes a produce and people like it and they can afford it then they may buy it. Whether they upgrade more often than you or I think is reasonable is THEIR business just as I don't want THEM tell me what and when to buy something.
 
I know I don't. I upgrade about ever three years. BUT my hope is that we live in a free and capitalist country and so if a company makes a produce and people like it and they can afford it then they may buy it. Whether they upgrade more often than you or I think is reasonable is THEIR business just as I don't want THEM tell me what and when to buy something.
what if THEY  just say :"hey losers, buy the 2024 phones?
 


Apple and other electronics manufacturers have received a break from Trump's reciprocal tariffs, with the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency sharing a long list of products excluded from the levies last night.

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iPhones, Macs, iPads, Apple Watch, and other Apple devices will not be subject to the 125 percent tariffs that have been put in place on imported Chinese goods, nor will Apple have to pay the 10 percent reciprocal tariffs that are in place for goods from other countries.

All manner of electronic devices have been exempted, including computer components such as GPUs from Nvidia, semiconductors and the equipment used to make them, SSDs, displays, many TVs, and more. The AirPods and the HomePod do not appear to have been exempted, and video game consoles like the Nintendo Switch 2 are still subject to the tariffs.

As Bloomberg points out, the exemptions could be temporary and the Trump administration could be planning for new, lower tariffs on electronics and other goods from China. The order also does not exempt companies from the 20 percent "fentanyl" fee imposed on China, which was an earlier penalty, so there is still a fee that Apple will need to pay.

With the back and forth over tariffs and the 90-day pause Trump put in place in some countries, Apple stock has been volatile for the last week and has dropped more than 20 percent before recovering somewhat. As of market close yesterday, Apple's stock was down 11 percent from early April.

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Article Link: iPhones, Macs, and Other Apple Devices Exempted From Trump Tariffs
Grok ballparks that these categories amount to 35% of our exports from China. After watching David Sacks on the All-In podcast "The Great Tariff Debate", it became clear that Trump is trying make it look risky to keep your manufacturing in China. Note that these exempted items are still going to face at least the 20% fentanyl tariff. The point of the exercise, since repealing the 1998 permanent normal trade relations (PNTR) of 1998 for China isn't an option, is to use tariffs to reintroduce more uncertainty in keeping your production there. Before PNTR, we at least had the uncertainty of the yearly renewal as leverage over China and the flood gates of offshoring might not have opened quite so wide.
 
It looks like the new Apple TV would not be exempt. I wonder if Apple will delay the planned release until the tariff situation with China is resolved.
 
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