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iphoto is very laggy on my brand new macbook pro, i7, 8gm of ram. is unacceptable! it takes 10 bounces to load, while other similar apps and the "old" iphoto took 2 bouces! not to mention the bunch of loading while changing between events books and everything else.

apple we need a fix. fast!
 
regardless, it's a pain and a headache to try to rebuild your library.

It's a click and a coffee. I consider mudding and taping drywall in an entire home to be a "pain" or a "headache". Waiting for a progress bar to ensure your data will be safe is pure convenience.

I blame the users. Apple writes the software. It's up to you to learn how to use it and observe best practices. Your photo's are your responsibility. Back them up. I say this as a photographer who has learned this lesson the hard way. I have no one to blame but myself.

If the software lacks features you want or expect, don't purchase and install it. If it doesn't meet expectations, contact Apple. I would expect a fix in a couple weeks.
 
I can't figure out why the MacBook air users would use iPhoto '11. There is not enough storage on the Flash Drive.

I like to stick with Flickr because of the unlimited space and keeping my photos on the cloud.

Until Apple makes iPhoto cloud based/on the web/with unlimited space, then I would use it.
 
I haven't noticed lost images, knock wood. But it's a sloooow program, yes.

The loss of ability simply to email photos as attachments is the biggest problem and surprise. I often send images out of iPhoto for professional purposes; someone else's version of a clever framing device for the pictures is nothing but a hassle.

The feature would be fine if there was a simple "Send as attachment" option, but there doesn't appear to be.
 
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arkmannj said:
no support for the older AppleTV's ? that really stinks. :(

No support for older ATV is the dealbreaker for me. I definitely will not be upgrading now! Ridiculous.
 
No problems here upgrading from '09. 7800 odd photos, and 780 short family videos all in the same place as before.... Took about 10 minutes to sort out the library after first starting iPhoto '11. (Macbook 13" 2.53 Ghz).

The spinning wheel in '09 used to really wind me up.. I would get it so often even doing the simplest of things. Now its, erm, snappier?

Also Faces is actually working much better than in '09.

All in all, me a happy bunny.
 
Let's just hope they backed them up or maybe they aren't really gone. Possible the new program is just hiding them. Some programs are tricky that way. :p
 
Not that I was in a rush to upgrade to iLife '11(I use Aperture 3.1), looks like I'll wait awhile to see if any of these issues gets resolved.
 
The average consumer doesn't backup. Well - let me clarify - the average consumer doesn't back up until AFTER they experience their first data loss. And even then - many fail to back up REGULARLY.

And with the amount of people experiencing this issue - it would be hard to see how Apple didn't encounter the issue if they thoroughly tested. But who can really say.

I agree about personal responsibility. I also think that a company that sells you an upgrade should put some sort of precautions to back up the original library before converting or give an on screen warning other than "this library needs to be updated..."

My .02

Oh, I am aware that the average consumer doesn't back up. I worked in the tech industry for three years, and despite warning people on a daily basis that data corruption and hard drive failure is inevitable, they still continued to believe that somehow they were exempt from this simple fact.

The Internet is an echo chamber that magnifies people having issues and minimizes people who aren't. Most of my friends are quite tech savvy, and we've all upgraded to iPhoto '11 over the past week. In a group of 20 or 30 (friends and acquaintances), I've only heard of one who had a problem. Even on this thread most of the people who've commented haven't had an issue upgrading to iPhoto '11, but are joining in the fray to condemn Apple for such a horrible software release. It's just what happens every time new software is released, regardless of the manufacturer.

Maybe this is my perspective as a law student, but all tort law has taught me is that every time we encounter a problem, we then feel the need to disclose it so we absolve ourselves of liability. All that really does is create a bigger sense of entitlement when things DO go wrong. I say this not to be combative, but in my mind, personal responsibility means personal responsibility without more hand-holding by Apple. We saw the tech community (particularly the Apple community) deride Microsoft for including so many alerts in Vista, believing that constantly dismissing alerts or "allowing" certain system tasks would condition the user to just click away alerts without reading. I don't think Apple has a responsibility to put up a box that says "make sure you back up before upgrading!" when a) the user should be backing up already, b) Apple includes the easiest backup utility I've ever seen, and c) there are just some things that fall under the responsibility of the user. We all assume certain risks in life. Apple does what they can to mitigate those risks (offering Time Machine, testing software in their labs, etc), but at some point they have to stop holding our hands.

Just my $0.02. :) I definitely understand your perspective.
 
Everyone is coming out of the wood work to complain about iPhoto 11 all of the sudden haha.

Monkey see monkey do.

Oh there's reported problems with iPhoto? I MIGHT HAVE PROBLEMS WITH IPHOTO TOO!
 
-Copy the photos to External HD (or burn DVD or both) for backup. Backing up with Time Machine is NOT enough as older backups are erased eventually. You could use same HD for both Time Machine and storing photos long term. You should plan on swapping out this HD every 2 or 3 years. Put it on your planner, Mobileme iCAL, etc.

Maybe it depends on the total size of your photos vs. your Time Machine capacity, but it certainly should be enough for a local backup. Here you imply that files backed up long ago will be lost. This is not true. Time Machine will not leave you without a backup copy of any particular file. The items that end up being erased are those that have changed, so worst case you lose the original copy of an image you later modify in Photoshop and overwrite the original on your drive.

That said, having only local backups of irreplaceable things like photographs is foolish. The first thing a thief is going to go for are your computers and peripherals. Or what about a fire? Off site backups are a must.
 
Don't use iPhoto for long term storage of photos.

I don't use iPhoto (or Picasa etc) for long term storage of photos. I store all my photos in its native form, like Word Doc files, on external HDs and DVDs. I import the photos into iPhoto only when I want to create a slideshow, organize before emailing them out etc.

my workflow with photos
-Use free Mac utility app called Image Capture to download photos from camera onto Mac HD. Do not use iPhoto to download photos.
-Use ExifRenamer to rename photos to date/time it was taken. Seems not necessary but crucial for headache free management of photos. Each photo will have unique file name AND you can tell where/where it was taken just by looking at the file name. No need to check thumbnail images.
-Copy the photos to External HD (or burn DVD or both) for backup. Backing up with Time Machine is NOT enough as older backups are erased eventually. You could use same HD for both Time Machine and storing photos long term. You should plan on swapping out this HD every 2 or 3 years. Put it on your planner, Mobileme iCAL, etc.
-Import photos into iPhoto if you want to browse through them or create book or create slideshows to share.
-Lastly, get 'iPhoto Buddy' so you can use multiple iPhoto Libraries (on internal AND external HDs). Putting ALL your photos into 1 huge iPhoto Library ON your internal HD is not smart imo. Maybe create a dedicated iPhoto library for each year. Keep it on an external HD.
-After making sure older photos are on external HD/DVD, delete them from your HD. I do. My Internal HD is just not big enough for all my photos.


Now you might say that's no unApple with so many seemingly manual steps. The fact is Apple can't do anything about users filling up HDs with thousands and thousands of 5MB jpg files or video files. You as a user have to determine what to keep where. No amount of technical solution will fix that, unless of course you have unlimited internal HD storage, which no one does.

-you forgot, quit your job as your method of managing digital photos is a full-time job. Oh, wait, no thanks. I have 11,000+ photos in my iPhoto library, no problems, I have TM back up my internal regularly. And I keep an offsite backup of my iPhoto library file that I update somewhat frequently - enough that if I lost everything I would only lose up to a month's worth of photos. And I know how to browse the package contents of my iPhoto library file to find images, even with Apple's method of cataloging.
 
It is but are you really shocked? This is Apple, after all.

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No support for older ATV is the dealbreaker for me. I definitely will not be upgrading now! Ridiculous.

I have an old 160GB Apple TV and iPhoto '11 has no problems with it -- I added some new photos and it synced the same way it's always done. I realize that's little help for people who can't get it working, but making the claim that the older ATV is not compatible is simply not true.
JRB

Heads up guys: looks like JRBTempe is the guy you want to talk to about previous gen Apple TV compatibility. His works! :)
 
Aside from all this I'm really disappointed that there is no pinch-to-zoom feature...I mean they sell all these multi-touch enabled devices but it's barely implemented in anything. iPhoto seems like a no-brainer to incorporate pinch-zoom as it works like that on the iPhone and iPad. :( :( :(

Are you sure? That feature is present even in iPhoto '08.

And to those who miss calendars (myself included): http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4258
We will be adding the ability to create and order calendars in iPhoto 11, and these features will be available very soon.
 
i haven't lost any photos, but 80% of my places are jacked up. i'm in the process of re-geotagging about 10,000 photos. :mad:

also, my old ATV is working fine so far. :confused:
 
I'd revise that philosophy as follows:

Always expect bugs and issues when buying the first version of a piece of computer software or hardware and prepare for those by backing up your data ahead of time.
I'd revise that philosophy as follows:

Always back up your data.

(Seriously, Time Machine makes this so easy. People who don't do so don't deserve to complain if they lose anything important.)
 
OK, I've installed it: it feels like an app that wasn't ready for release, but which had to meet a deadline.

Apple is trying to convince us that it still cares for mac and yet the media event very much felt like here's a bit of this and a touch of that. Unfortunately we haven't had time to get anything useful done as we have been focusing on iOS.

iPhoto is slow to the point of being ridiculous. Apple appears to be copying ideas or evolving ideas that users like as a last minute thought.

I have been using macs since the second coming of Jobs and I can honestly say that when ipod and iphone passed mac as the main revenue stream, everything mac related has become less and less impressive. I am really at the point where I think to myself that a custom install of windows would be as good as what I have on a mac.
 
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