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Cybernanga said:
Check my sig, it has the link to the mac equivalent that I created ;)

Thanks :) Is there a way to try it or see it without registering first?

And thanks for the video links too--once my big attachment downloads I'm going to have to check them out.

However: for a photo slideshow, the quality must be sufficient for TV, around 640x480 or so. It's easier to animate on the iPod's small screen.

(And the boldface issue and plugged-in icon remain as evidence of fakery.)
 
I sent you a PM about getting alterPod.


nagromme said:
However: for a photo slideshow, the quality must be sufficient for TV, around 640x480 or so. It's easier to animate on the iPod's small screen.

(And the boldface issue and plugged-in icon remain as evidence of fakery.)

You are quite right about the "Quality for TV" issue, but I'm fairly confident the iPod could just about manage it. (The iPod has 2 ARM chips, and a Gameboy only has 1)

The boldface could just be a change on Apple's part, and he could have 2 cables as someone else suggested.

I'm still not sure what to call on this issue, but I'm researching hard! hehe, maybe I'll be able to provide MacRumors with a "Confirmed Exclusive" if I'm lucky ;)
 
hob said:
This thread's going round and round in circles...

Yes, it could be faked by being put full screen on the iPod photo...
Yes, tetris is on Linux for iPod...
Yes, the first image is photoshopped - but seemingly only to protect his name and serial number...

Hopefully those who don't bother to read the entire thread will at least note that these topics have been covered in detail...

Could you add "Yes, Tetris can be controlled using the iPod's controls: scroll wheel moves piece left or right; center button rotates it; there, presumably, is no drop" to that list? Some people are still not getting it. E.g. :

JonMaker said:
3. Control of Tetris would be easy on an iPod. Scroll wheel rotates, the button drops, and Bob's yer uncle.
 
apinstein said:
I think it's fake.. check out this picture:

Fake Picture

The photo is close-up enough that you can see each pixel. The warped areas, therefore, you should still see each pixel in a regular grid.

Instead, the grid is disrputed along with the effect.

IMHO, clearly fake.

I'm not sure I see what you're saying...

If you take a macro shot of an iPod screen with a 6mp camera, you are going to capture the pixels of the iPod Display, but the picture its self will not be pixelated. Then if you blur part of it in photoshop you are going to see a very detailed 6mp blur, but you are still going to see the pixelated iPod screen.

Please let me know if I misunderstood you there.

~Tyler
Earendil

P.S.
OSX says "Pixelated" isn't a word?! :(
 
Thanks, cybernanga.

I WANT to believe in this one, but I just can't. Occam's Razor isn't letting me.

It would be great to be wrong :)

Now, one thing I'm wondering... what are those swirls on the serial number? They look really cool and very Apple-like, but something's a little off about them in the photos. A hoax, maybe?

Couldn't resist :D
 
I would love an iPod with more games. The problem is the battery life. It will be interesting to see what the iPod can do in two years.
 
ErikGrim said:
What are you on about? These are not photoshopped images, did you miss the 15-years experience in Photoshop? May I also mention that I am a photographer?\


alright MR. HighAndMighty, you can put the whip down now.

i would go on about my photoshop experience and how i eat photographers for lunch but the point is...their is no point.
 
Arrrrgh.....this thread is driving me nuts. So many repeated statements, and misplaced flames! I wish member options had a 'Only display every fifth post' - I think even then I would have read every 'I'm a photoshop legend and I'm telling you it's not fake....oh unless he just made a picture and displayed it on his iPod which would be easy' about fifteen times.

I definitely think the picture is fake BUT tetris would indeed (as people have said already!!! :rolleyes: ) be awesome on an iPod. But PLEASE make it for 3G iPods too!!
 
ffs

good god people, get over it. the pictures are real. the swirl is added later by that german kid to protect his personal info. nothing more, and yes, the ipod can render cube effects on the fly.
 
dejo said:
Even though I am not sure if these new transitions and Tetris shots are fakes, here's how easy it was for me to make one:

LOOK! Doom3 running on an iPod photo!

The biggest different between yours and his is probably the hardest part to fake, and that's the pixels. In his images you can clearly see the pixels and even see some of the color distortion caused by being able to slightly see the sub-pixels. I won't go so far as to say that this would be impossible to fake but I expect it would be extremely difficult. However I am only saying that the pictures themselves are not likely to be edited. It is still possible that trickery is taking place through hacking the iPod.
 
rxcfc said:
The biggest different between yours and his is probably the hardest part to fake, and that's the pixels. In his images you can clearly see the pixels and even see some of the color distortion caused by being able to slightly see the sub-pixels. I won't go so far as to say that this would be impossible to fake but I expect it would be extremely difficult. However I am only saying that the pictures themselves are not likely to be edited. It is still possible that trickery is taking place through hacking the iPod.

The only reason you don't see the pixels in my fake is that the image I posted is not as high-res as his. So, attached is a higher-res version isolating the screen. Now you can see the pixels, although somewhat out-of-focus (darn macro mode).
 

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Cybernanga said:
I sent you a PM about getting alterPod.


However: for a photo slideshow, the quality must be sufficient for TV, around 640x480 or so. It's easier to animate on the iPod's small screen.

(And the boldface issue and plugged-in icon remain as evidence of fakery.)

You are quite right about the "Quality for TV" issue, but I'm fairly confident the iPod could just about manage it. (The iPod has 2 ARM chips, and a Gameboy only has 1)

The boldface could just be a change on Apple's part, and he could have 2 cables as someone else suggested.

I'm still not sure what to call on this issue, but I'm researching hard! hehe, maybe I'll be able to provide MacRumors with a "Confirmed Exclusive" if I'm lucky ;)

what would the plugged-in icon have anything to do with it?
 
mo0805 said:
what would the plugged-in icon have anything to do with it?

Someone noticed that iPod was displaying the "plugged-in" icon on screen, but you could see an iPod Dock in the background. The Dock had a cable attached.

Unless the chap has 2 cables, then the pics would definately be fake.

However if he can get his hands on the latest iPod Firmware, I'm sure that he can get his hands on a spare iPod cable.

So we are back to square one ;)
 
I love how know one actually reads the entire thread here at MR. A great forum, but the people who make redundant/repetitive posts (ironic, because this post itself is somewhat redundant) kill it.

I'm I the only one who actually reads *every* post in the thread before I reply (so I don't make a fool out of myself, like many here do).
 
iPod video!

(If the damned Myriad font would be as thick in real use as it is in the iPod menus, this fake would be even more believable.)
 

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the ipod isnt' a game boy or PSP, people don't buy it for games. i could really care less if there were more games on my ipod, it would only take up some HD space (though very minimal)
 
dejo said:
(If the damned Myriad font would be as thick in real use as it is in the iPod menus, this fake would be even more believable.)
(just to be a royal pain) Let's see the interference patterns now :D
 
Plymouthbreezer said:
I'm I the only one who actually reads *every* post in the thread before I reply (so I don't make a fool out of myself, like many here do).
funkychunkz said:
One could simply take a screenshot of an iphoto effect and take a picture of it being displayed on the ipod.
I disagree that everyone should be expected to read threads--especially when they get long--or not contribute. The repetition can be annoying, but it's not stupidity, it's simply that they didn't take the time to read all that. A forum with no repetition would be neat, but a forum where you were REQUIRED (theoretically) to read all posts in a thread before adding your contribution would be a real pain.

So if I have to choose one inconvenience over the other, I'll settle for the repeats. Myself, I tend to read the first and last several posts, but not all of them. It's just not worth the time. I don't think the consequences of that are too terrible, since you can just ignore repeated points.

HOWEVER, I did think the two posts above were funny in that order :D


dejo said:
(If the damned Myriad font would be as thick in real use as it is in the iPod menus, this fake would be even more believable.)

You want Lucida Grande. Myriad is used for Apple product names and things, but the iPod and OS X UI use Lucida Grande. (And the different smoothing settings in Photoshop make a difference too.)

PS, although it's silly to consider faking these by any method OTHER than photographing a real iPod showing a real image (moire and all) that you uploaded... I was personally silly enough to consider just that :D Here's my senselessly difficult method...

1. Put a blank white photo on your iPod and view it. Take a close-up shot and you've got your iPod-screen texture.

2. Make your fake screen in Photoshop--you could use pieces extracted by alterPod etc. (apps used to re-skin the iPod UI).

3. Layer your fake over the white-screen photo in Photoshop. Use Multiply mode to let the screen texture come through perfectly.

4. Free Transform and drag the corners into perspective.

5. Blur as needed to match the photo, and Adjust Curves to reduce the quality like an LCD.

7. Feel the need for reflections/glare? Take them from a similar photo of the iPod turned off. Composite that screen on top with a mode of Screen. Set curves on the layer to get a true black if you need to avoid brighting the whole thing.

8. Need to have focus or brightness or color/sat vary across the screen? Make a slightly different version, and composite that over the top. A soft layer mask with a big brush (or even a gradient) will let you paint in a gradual shift of focus or lighting.

But as I said, these fakes were made by a less fun but much simpler method :D
 
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