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nagromme said:
You want Lucida Grande. Myriad is used for Apple product names and things, but the iPod and OS X UI use Lucida Grande. (And the different smoothing settings in Photoshop make a difference too.)

Actually I believe the iPod photo, unlike other iPods, uses Myriad font.

iPod Fonts
 
dejo said:
Actually I believe the iPod photo, unlike other iPods, uses Myriad font.

Actually the other iPods use the classic Mac font Chicago, not Lucida Grande like OS X uses.

Myriad and Lucida Grande are very similar, but not the same, and my Photo is definitely using Lucida Grande. A test: look at your song list in iTunes and on your iPod. You can see the font is a match for OS X, as expected.

Myriad is what Apple paints on the physical cases and packaging of their products. (And maybe they use it for big "logos" on some splash screens since those are like product names. I'm not sure.)

Trivia: Apple USED to print physical names (and some on-screen logo) with Apple Garamond (serif font). Then they went to Myriad. This was AFTER the OS had already gone from Chicago to Charcoal (OS 8 and 9) to Lucida Grande (X).

I always thought it was odd that iPods use the old System 7 Chicago instead of the similar but more modern OS 9 Charcoal.

More Triva: if I remember correctly, the iPod Mini uses Espy Sans on-screen. I have no idea why that is in my head... But I know it's not just a smaller Chicago. Nor is it the filenames font (Monaco? Geneva?) used pre-OS X.
 
dejo said:
The only reason you don't see the pixels in my fake is that the image I posted is not as high-res as his. So, attached is a higher-res version isolating the screen. Now you can see the pixels, although somewhat out-of-focus (darn macro mode).
holly crap doom will be on the new ipods. WOW, YAH, cant wait !!! :D :D :p

haha :)
 
one more reason..

If you look at the infamous first picture, along the top where it says Uber and there is the plugged in logo, there is the play icon, but there are no earphones connected, so it should be a paused icon. Also, the photographer is holding the iPod in his hands, leading up to believe no speakers or otherwise are plugged in via the dock, so I say FAKE IMAGE UPLOAD!!!!!!!!!!

(unless the ability to turn off the autopause can as a new feature in v.1.2 :rolleyes: )

Just my 2 cents

Jesus
 
Jesus said:
If you look at the infamous first picture, along the top where it says Uber and there is the plugged in logo, there is the play icon, but there are no earphones connected, so it should be a paused icon. Also, the photographer is holding the iPod in his hands, leading up to believe no speakers or otherwise are plugged in via the dock, so I say FAKE IMAGE UPLOAD!!!!!!!!!!

(unless the ability to turn off the autopause can as a new feature in v.1.2 :rolleyes: )

Just my 2 cents

Jesus

Well, you can "turn off the autopause" after the headphones are disconnected simply by hitting the Play button. You don't HAVE to have headphones connected for the iPod to play. It just autopauses WHEN the headphones are disconnected. Sorry, that argument isn't proof...
 
Good call on the play icon. Why would someone bother playing a disconnected iPod for a photo?

But someone making a fake might WELL include the play icon without thinking.

Nobody's saying these issues are proof, but they cast so much doubt that fakery becomes the simplest explanation. We've now found THREE things that are highly suspicious (the bold, the battery icon, the play icon).

On the other hand, maybe:

* Apple added boldface where none had been.

* He bought a second charging cable in addition to the one sitting on his desk, and even though he already had full charge, he complicated his photo by plugging in the second one and tethering himself while taking the pictures. (You can have the backlight on permanently regardless.)

* He pressed Play on a disconnected iPod from which no sound is emerging--or else is holding a second dock in his hand and has that connected to his stereo for the ultimate awakward photo shoot.

Maybe those are true. I hope they are.

But...
 
nagromme said:
Myriad and Lucida Grande are very similar, but not the same, and my Photo is definitely using Lucida Grande. A test: look at your song list in iTunes and on your iPod. You can see the font is a match for OS X, as expected.

Yeah, I guess you're right, although the tail on the 'a' looks more Myriad than Lucida to me, but maybe that's cuz it's hard to render on the iPod. But an 'M' is definitely Lucida: straight not sloped.

But, here's what fooled me: Apple uses Myriad in their mockups for the iPod Photo! I was using the Apple PR images as my "source" and it's Myriad on them.
 
angelneo said:
Another new handheld gaming console perhaps?

Not with a scroll wheel it isn't. At best gaming on the iPod is a curiosity. Its like gaming on 90% of the PDA’s out there. The device simply wasn’t designed around gaming. How on earth you will ever manipulate the bricks at higher levels with one hand is beyond me. All I know is I hope they have the same classic songs associated with Tetris. *hums THE song in his head*
 
nagromme said:
Maybe those are true. I hope they are.

But...

Yeah, no definitive proof of fakery or validity either way, far as I can tell, but it certainly smells suspicious.

Now if he had a picture of Big Foot holding the iPod... ;)
 
nagromme said:
That icon is indeed odd and suspicious. Good catch. His cable is still plugged into the dock back there. He could have two cables, but fakery is seeming more and more likely. If that icon were simply part of an uploaded image, it would never change.

As for the "1.2", no reason those screens couldn't be photoshopped as easily as the Tetris screens--it's the same font OS X uses for instance--and then uploaded for viewing on the iPod.

And more suspicion: on my iPod Photo's "About" screen, the text on the left is NOT bolded. It looks the same as the numbers on the right. Even when I set to German. "Uber" is correct, and SN instead of S/N is correct. but the bolding is not!

Sure, Apple could have changed that for 1.2... but the ice is getting thinner.

Ah well, it was a fun fake :)

Let the iPod Photo fakes roll in... you may start with this Windows program for extracting iPod GUI elements ;)

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000610023097/

(Not to mention that it lets you hack the firmware to CHANGE those elements if you're brave. Mac equivalent anyone?)

2476263283872574.GIF

Yes, there is a mac version of that. I just need to find it, be back soon.
 
nagromme said:
1. Put a blank white photo on your iPod and view it. Take a close-up shot and you've got your iPod-screen texture.

2. Make your fake screen in Photoshop--you could use pieces extracted by alterPod etc. (apps used to re-skin the iPod UI).

3. Layer your fake over the white-screen photo in Photoshop. Use Multiply mode to let the screen texture come through perfectly.

4. Free Transform and drag the corners into perspective.

5. Blur as needed to match the photo, and Adjust Curves to reduce the quality like an LCD.

7. Feel the need for reflections/glare? Take them from a similar photo of the iPod turned off. Composite that screen on top with a mode of Screen. Set curves on the layer to get a true black if you need to avoid brighting the whole thing.

8. Need to have focus or brightness or color/sat vary across the screen? Make a slightly different version, and composite that over the top. A soft layer mask with a big brush (or even a gradient) will let you paint in a gradual shift of focus or lighting.

But as I said, these fakes were made by a less fun but much simpler method :D
Do you think this guy, or most people, would know how to do all this properly just make a fake? Plus, something this processed in Photoshop would probably be noticeable to most graphics pros. Not sure it is a fake myself. Not convinced by the arguments so far.
 
Yvan256 said:
In iTunes, when you join tracks for ripping, it stills rips it as one huge track (so you can go around the technical problem and have gapless playback), but it adds extra "start/stop" metadata so that you keep the "tracks" within the big, single file. Of course, you can't "split" those tracks (they're stuck together, if you only want one you have to have the others) but at least you keep gapless playback without losing the actual tracks.
I've actually never tried joining tracks for burning CDs yet, but, it's good to know that iTunes at least maintains the start/stop info so you can jump to the next song, even if in the middle of a long, joined track. I thought it would just consider the entire CD one, long track.

But, I don't see why it's so complicated to remove the gap between two different tracks when playing back-to-back without having to join tracks. Forget Tetris or photo effects, this is what I want in the next iTunes/iPod!!
 
This download was available for a short period of time and only one person has it? I find that hard to believe. If it was available for a short period of time i'm sure this would have been on every mac Bittorrent site and all over Limewire, Aquisiton, etc.
 
Jesus said:
2. If it is a fake, it is a .jpeg image sent to a 'Photo to fake the UI.

Actually, it might also be one of these other supported formats: BMP, GIF, TIFF, PSD (Mac only) and PNG formats. ;)

(I used TIFFs for my fakes)
 
MontyZ said:
Do you think this guy, or most people, would know how to do all this properly just make a fake?

I don't even know the guy. But I don't think you read the post of mine that you quoted :D

"But as I said, these fakes were made by a less fun but much simpler method :D "
 
Ah ha!

Here, because I couldn't help myself :D It's 1024x768 if viewed full size.

Proof of so MANY things all in one place... !

(And just for fun I used my above Photoshop method to put the image on the screen. That image was NOT on my iPod when I took the picture. And of COURSE that's not how the Tetris fakes were made--they were just snapshots of fake images uploaded to the iPod.)
 

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nagromme said:
Here, because I couldn't help myself :D It's 1024x768 if viewed full size.

Proof of so MANY things all in one place... !

Is it just me, or is bigfoot wearing a medallion in that picture?

Is bigfoot actually BA Baracus from the A-Team?....many proofs indeed!
 
Jesus said:
can we draw this to a close.

1. This source seems questionable.

2. If it is a fake, it is a .jpeg image sent to a 'Photo to fake the UI.

3. The Swirls in the 1st picture are to hide the guy's s/n and name.

You got that

(Kapeesh)
Amen jesus.
 
Dark Horse said:
Is it just me, or is bigfoot wearing a medallion in that picture?

He's wearing SOMETHING white that goes in his ears, that's for sure....

Also a demo of the new photo-enhancement capabilities in the 1.2 firmware.
 
nagromme said:
Here, because I couldn't help myself :D It's 1024x768 if viewed full size.

Proof of so MANY things all in one place... !

LOL! Excellent work! I think I even see an extraterrestrial hiding behind a tree there...
 
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