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iPod to be on Newsweek Cover

smegdude said:
I think this article shows that there is another section that hasn't been uploaded to the net yet, either that or its blocked. Looks like we are gonna have to wait until sunday night to find out the rest of the details :(

Instead of putting wifi in the ipod (power drain) Apple could just put bluetooth in there, they have it in cell phones which have the same sort of batteries as the ipod (With maybe less charge)that have bluetooth enabled and stay on for long periods of time. That would enable bluetooth headphones and also would allow syncing with bluetooth enabled computers (at least for addressbook etc.) I don't know the bandwidth for bluetooth and whether its enough for file transfer, but its definately enough for sound streaming.
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bluetooth sucks **** and you wouldn't want it to be used for anything on the iPod...
 
Gherkin said:
I can almost guarantee that if there is ever a wi-fi iPod, that it is going to be an add-on like the sound recorder. Considering only a small amount of iPod users would use the wi-fi capabilities, why make everyone pay for it?

Now for the people who actually do want wi-fi abilities, they'd rather have it just be built in. So it kinda sucks. Leaves Apple in a hard place.
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I had been thinking that wi-fi would be built into some type of base or docking station that you would by as an optional accessory. It simply doesn't make sense to have it built into the iPod itself. The amount of power required for that that would surely limit the iPod to 1 - 2 hours tops.
 
I really hope they cut the price by $50 across the board expect on the low end model, because then you would cannibalize mini sales. If the battery life is 12 hours like I have heard even better, that would make me happy. I want a working link to this article! Can someone post a link that works :confused:
 
This is the first time the thought of being a drag queen has ever made any kind of sense to me...

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Am I the only one who thinks the new iPod on the Newsweek cover looks a lot worse than the 3G? Somehow the wheel doesn't seem to blend with the white casing.
 
Macmaniac said:
I really hope they cut the price by $50 across the board expect on the low end model, because then you would cannibalize mini sales. If the battery life is 12 hours like I have heard even better, that would make me happy. I want a working link to this article! Can someone post a link that works :confused:
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Make that $100 cut, the low end disappearing, but no 60GB model (yet).

http://www.thinksecret.com/news/newipods3.html
 
personnally I think that the 60 GB will come in august when the drives become widely available. :rolleyes: no bit deal....

With the new price and the prob. dock, etc., content with the 20 GB at the low end this will be the sweet spot - the first at the bottom of the line.
 
I hope the new ipod gets an improved amplifier. Everytime I use my earphones with my powerbook I realize that the powerbook sounds a lot better than my ipod... haven't you realized that???
 
Freg3000 said:
Here are rumored specs and prices from MacDailyNews:

Apple 4G iPod 20 GB - 5,000 Songs:
- Apple Earphones
- AC Adapter
- FireWire cable
- PC FireWire adapter
Retail price: US$249.00

Apple 4G iPod 40 GB - 10,000 Songs:
- Apple Earphones
- AC Adapter
- FireWire cable
- PC FireWire adapter
- Wired remote
- Carrying case with belt clip
- iPod Dock
Retail price: US$349.00

Apple 4G iPod 60 GB - 15,000 Songs:
- Apple Earphones
- AC Adapter
- FireWire cable
- PC FireWire adapter
- Wired remote
- Carrying case with belt clip
- iPod Dock
Retail price: US$449.00

Er.......iPod mini prices? Maybe no change, since demand is so high.

$249 for 4 GB or $249 for 20 GB, 5x more! I understand why this can be, but do you all remember that thread right after MWSF '04 with everyone screaming about how for only $50 more.....:D
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If these prices are accurate, they would seem to indicate a price drop in the iPod mini. But mini is in sharp demand at $249, which would not indicate a price drop in the mini.

Something doesn't make sense.
 
Hmm, a couple of things - the Newsweek article seems to be down which is a bummer because ThinkSecret seems to have the info on the new iPod from there -

http://www.thinksecret.com/news/newipods3.html
(sorry to repost this Knox)

Apparently there is only a 20/40GB line up, with USD299 and USD399 the pricing.

No colours, one millimetre thinner, clickwheel like the Mini and 50% better battery life (12 hours!!!).

More efficient menus, multiple and more versatile on-the-go playlists.

I can't help but think a 60GB is also in the offing, maybe by MacExpo Paris (see the Toshiba announcement of the 60GB drives earlier). Which makes this a difficult time to buy - does one get the 40GB for USD399 or wait for a 60GB in a month or two at USD499? Especially given that the 60GB's presumed release date is not clarified at all by the article... could be August, September or much later!

I must say, that is a HUGE price drop ($100) for slightly more functional, and better charged 40GBs. Definitely worth a thought, bummer about the lingering potential for a further update soon...
 
http://msnbc.msn.com/ is down at 9:52 EST...

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My theory is that the Newsweek posts were planted to stir up interest. Jobs knew about it. The iPod pictured isn't quite the iPod Apple will announce. The Newsweek articles are all missing now. Odd, huh? I think we were played. The real announcement will show a wireless iPod with color screen.

Well, probably not. ;) But, after reading 10 pages of posts (9 pages when I started!), I had to say something! :)
 
ITR 81 said:
Maybe they plan on discounting them soon or maybe they plan on upgrading the HD's soon...

But for some folks size is everything. I mean look how much those small sony notebooks cost over in Japan..they are selling for around $3k if not over.
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I don't see why they would discount the price of the mini. They can't make them fast enough at the current price.
 
From : http://www.thinksecret.com/news/newipods3.html

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Drive capacities for the new iPod are the same, maxing out at 40GB. However, as anticipated, Apple will offer the models at lower prices. The 40GB unit will ship for $399 and the 20GB model will sell for $299, a $100 reduction in price. Apple is no longer selling a 15GB model.

According to the story, the new iPod features an enclosure that's a millimeter thinner and includes a streamlined click wheel similar to that of the iPod mini, as shown in the cover photo. The new models also boast a 50% improvement in battery life, to 12 hours between charges. None of the fourth-generation iPods will ship in colors.

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from another article:

http://www.macdailynews.com/comments.php?id=P3073_0_1_0

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With a 50% improvement in battery life to 12 hours (attributed to better power conservation, not a heavier battery), an iPod mini-like click wheel, one millimeter thinner dimensions, new menus that are "more efficient," the ability to create multiple playlists and edit them, and the new variable speed control for playing content faster or slower, simply put, these new 4G iPods nuke the competition. And the new iPod still comes in your choice of color: white, white, or white.

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Do you think that the 3G's will also get extended battery life? Since it's not a heavier battery, it's better power management, then a software update should hook up the 3G's ... right?
 
If the price of the low-end iPod and the iPod mini were the same price, what would you buy? When the mini iPod first came out, it was no-brainer, but now, I may actually swing towards the green mini. Weird, eh?
 
Warbrain said:
bluetooth sucks **** and you wouldn't want it to be used for anything on the iPod...
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While far from perfect, Bluetooth is useful, adaptable, and cross-platform. My BT 'Book and phone are a new vital link in my life :)
 
A new input method? That's it? A few more things added, but we can probably get that by a firmware update. Good thing I didn't sell my iPod!

For the people that held out so long for a new iPod, now's a good time to buy.
 
With a 12 to 16 hour battery life, I'll retract my previous statement (in my "Am I the only one who wouldn't buy an iPod in its current form" thread) and may consider buying one (finally!). Its still missing a lot of features that I want, but enough is enough. My PB and iTunes is getting lonely, and despite the fact that the iRiver player may or may not be better for the price, the iPod may simply be easier to use since I already own an Apple computer, y'know?
 
Attention bargain shoppers!!

With the release of the 20 gig $299 model, the retailers that currently have stock of the 15 gig that has been $299 will be offering price cuts.

I picked up a 10 gig for $199 at Target when the 15 giggers came in at $299.

A buddy of mine picked one up for $149 at another Target by waiting a couple more weeks.
 
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The 60Gig iPod is reserved for the video functionality...

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I really hope that Apple have implemented AirTunes in the Dock.. it doesn't make much sense to implement the functionality in the actual iPod. Why?

AirTunes is for home use... where is your Dock? At home? Your iPod travels with you, but your Dock doesn't...

Implementing AirTunes in the actual iPod would guzzle its battery...
 
Text-only version of the article for those who have difficulties accessing the original one:
Newsweek said:
July 26 issue - Veteran Podsters understand that at least once a year Apple performs a feat that at once infuses them with dread and delight: an iPod upgrade. The delight comes from a new look and new capabilities. The dread comes from the realization that you're a step behind the cutting edge and must consider whether to buy your way back on it.

And here it goes again. The considerably tweaked fourth-generation iPod will roll out this week, and NEWSWEEK got an advance peek. It looks a bit different, operates more efficiently, has a few more features and costs less. Here are the highlights.

The click wheel.
The iPod keeps getting slimmer and more streamlined. While the initial version had a relatively boxy feel, subsequent versions have been curvier and smaller. This one is about a millimeter thinner and, more significantly, eliminates the control buttons that sat under the display screen. Instead, it uses a "click wheel," where the controls are placed on the compass points of the circular touchpad that lets you scroll through menus. This is an innovation carried over from the diminutive iPod Mini. "It was developed out of necessity for the Mini, because there wasn't enough room [for the buttons]," says Steve Jobs. "But the minute we experienced it we just thought, 'My God, why didn't we think of this sooner?' "

More efficient menus.
There's less thumbing required to get to your favorite stuff. "Music" is a first-level entry, and now a single click initiates the popular technique of shuffling your library for playback.

New features.
You can create multiple on-the-go playlists and delete songs from those ad hoc mixes. And audiobooks are not only easier to find, you can listen to them at normal speed, slower or 25 percent faster, without its sounding like a Munchkin.

Longer play.
Coast-to-coasters rejoice: the new iPods are rated for 12 hours of rockin' between charges—a 50 percent boost in battery life. This is accomplished, Apple says, not by a heavier battery but diligent conservation of power.

Lower price.
The top-of-the-line iPod, holding 10,000 songs (40 gigs, as geeks will tell you), now costs $399. The lower-capacity model, with room for 5,000 songs (20 gigs), costs $299. That's a $100 price reduction for each. (There's no more 15-gig model.)

Color.
Fuggedaboutit. Despite rumors to the contrary, the wide-bodies are still as pure as the driven snow.

Bottom line: If you have yet to jump on the iPod bandwagon, it's cheaper and more attractive to do so. If you're already plugged in, the question is whether you should engage in the "iPod Bump," where you snap up the spiffy new version and pass Old Reliable to a grateful friend or family member (or the highest eBay bidder). If your music collection has exceeded your iPod's storage space, or your listening binges exceed your current iPod's battery life—or if you want to hear Bill Clinton's abridged book in 4-1/2 hours rather than six—consider the Bump this time around. Of course, if your heart went aflutter at the very sight of this year's model, you're probably in line at the Apple Store already.
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