To add fuel to your fire. There is no deal. I don't want a deal and I don't care about any others deal. Quit trying to make trouble.
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iPod Touch and iOS Media Event Scheduled for Mid-August?
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To add fuel to your fire. There is no deal. I don't want a deal and I don't care about any others deal. Quit trying to make trouble.
Are you always this condescending and pretentious?
That's where you're wrong. The iPod nanos clickwheel has gotten much smaller over the years, it's progressively been getting smaller and smaller. I mean, especially in comparison to the Mini. I don't even know why you would suggest that. Just going from the last model nano to the current one, they made the clickwheel smaller. And for something that is already small to begin with, even reducing it just a little in size makes a much bigger difference.
Ask anyone who's gotten the new nano and had older ones before. I think it's universally agreed that the clickwheel being smaller now is a common complaint. I've heard most reviews mention it, and me being an owner of one myself, it is my number 1 complaint with it. The last gen nano was about the smallest I could tolerate, now it's gotten too small.
As has already been stated, there is no need for an iPod with 3G as this can basically be created instantly by the carriers.
If AT&T wanted, they could sell you an iPhone 4 for $650 and charge you $15 per month for 200mb of data while billing you per minute on individual calls.
Forgive me if someone already suggested this, but perhaps maybe this mysterious new iLife application could be some sort of iApps, app development program? Something similar to hyper card and what Google just announced for Android. Now that would be friggin awesome. An app development kit for the masses, and I'm sure Apple could make something that is powerful for us average joes. Basically like what iMovie is to Final Cut Pro, a consumer level development kit to create iPhone/iPad apps.
Would be cool... but I don't think it will happen... now
I believe the new iLife will, of course, come with updates for Pages, Numbers, Keynote, but also iWeb (with HTML5 support creation), but will also come with two Apps:
- FaceTime for iChat... "now your iPhone can connect you to any Mac in the world, for free"
- iDesign... "Graphic creation never been so fast, so easy, so magical..."
iDesign would be a Mass Market software to create graphic content (iTunes LP, ebook, HTML5 content,..) to be able to publish it online (with MobileMe and social networks integration) or even push it directly to iTunes & iBook stores.
Later, they will then just release a Pro version with a Graphics Suite (for $499-$999) the same way they have Logic Studio (Music), Final Cut Suite (Video), Aperture (Photo).
The only main domain they need is the Graphic... then no one will need to buy Adobe CS5 any more, which contains direct concurrent such Audition, Premiere, Lightroom.
(I keep the post short, for more info, please check: http://spidouz.wordpress.com/2010/08/01/what-apple-should-release/ )
Phil
Because this would cannibalize the iPhone. It doesn't matter if people buy an iPad 3G, they'll still need a mobile phone because the iPad is way too big to be carried all the time.
But Apple obviously doesn't want the customer to buy an iPod Touch instead of an iPhone because they would make susbstantially less money. The iPod touch is meant for people who can not afford an iPhone / who allready have a mobile.
As a 42-year old tech-geek who has been using Apple products since my first Mac 512 back in 1988...let me suggest that you "just make playlists."
If you're building a "large" media collection, its size will at some point surpass the largest capacity iPod available. This happened to me before the first iPod ever came out, as at the time I had a 13GB music library and the first iPod was 5GB. I had a 20GB Nomad Jukebox so I could have my whole collection with me "at all times," which I remember having this obsessive desire over.
As iPod storage capacities grew, there was a brief period when my whole collection could fit on an iPod and I had a 30GB then a 60GB. Start adding video to the mix, upping the music bitrate from 128 to 256, and once again the "large" library far outweighs what is going to be available in a portable device any time soon. Presently I've got 83GB of music, 15GB of photos, and over 700GB of video. It's just not realistic to expect to have it with me "at all times." Never bothered with the 160/120GB Classics because I just lost that "need" to have it all...
The iPhone is what really got me trained on playlists. The 1st gen was only 16GB so clearly not even all my music was going to fit. Carrying around the iPhone and an iPod seemed...well, silly. I have a set of complex smart playlists in a folder that include Favorite Artists, Top Rated, Not Played in a Year, Recently Added, etc...and one master playlist that feeds off that folder and is limited to 3000 songs. I sync that one playlist to my iPhone and every time I sync it is updated based on the rules of the various smart playlists, most of which have "last played" date criteria such that once a song is played it falls off and is replaced. My own personal Pandora. Also have a couple video playlists that rotate 2-3 fresh episodes out of hundreds of TV shows.
I get that what works well for me may not work well for you. I am virtually always on random play so having 30,000 or 3,000 or 300 songs with me is essentially the same as I'll never get through them all before getting home and re-syncing. I find if I want to listen to a particular song or a "whole album" it's typically something I just added, and my Recently Added list will include it.
Unless this "large" media collection you plan to build is going to remain at less than 128GB or so, you may as well get used to the idea that using rotating smart playlists is the best way to keep your smaller capacity iPod filled with a fresh mix of your songs and videos.
SIGH. iPhone this, that...iPad this, that....3g this, that.
NOT ON THE IPOD TOUCH. Different demographic. Get an iPhone for that!
The only thing i like about these forums is when the verizon rumor comes up. People get real pissed about it because they don't realize it is coming. I like that....
NOT ON THE IPOD TOUCH. Different demographic. Get an iPhone for that!
The only thing i like about these forums is when the verizon rumor comes up. People get real pissed about it because they don't realize it is coming. I like that....
Some of us are happy with our phones we already have. It would cost more for a iphone then a ipod touch with a ipad like data plan. The touch can play music and if you just want it for music, then put nothing but music on it.
Yeah. Buy them in the summer of 2011.
as I said I want everything with me at all times. I don't want to choose or decide what I want to listen to. I dont want to be away from home and want to listen to a song only to find out I didnt add it.
As said, some are happy with their current phones. It costs MORE MONEY for the iphone then an ipod touch with a ipad like data plan.
Then you will be stuck with a different phone..toooooo bad. I don't want a data plan bc it costs money monthly therefore, I won't be able to afford it. DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC
You also said you were planning on building a "large" media library. Unless Apple eventually creates an iPod with infinite capacity, you will reach a point when everything simply won't fit. Using smart playlists effectively is a sensible solution since what you want is not always going to be possible. I've had to purchase a 2TB external drive to store my media library...I certainly don't expect Apple to make an iPod that can hold it all. Depends on what you consider a "large" library I suppose.
Still it surprises me that even with up to 64GB on the current model of iPod touch that anybody could be in a position of not finding something they want to listen to in their own music collection. Don't expect the solution to be larger capacity iPods...the answer is clearly in the "cloud."
Over time you will be paying over $2000 for the iphone. I paied $249 for my boost mobile blackberry and pay $60 a month. I'm not on a contract or anything. i can cancel anytime
and Welcome to life. Things in life coast money kid
Yeah and if the servers crash there goes my info. Its what the users want, not what YOU want. a lot have a large collection want want it with them at all times. You seem to think it will get larger and larger and thats not always the case.
good thing you arent running Apple. I could see a lot of unhappy customers.
I have a very large media collection, I'm sure much larger than the average user. I would love to have it with me all the time. However many years ago I realized, as my collection grew, that "want" was not a "need" and also not compatible with the reality of the current technology. I expect the "cloud" solution will stream from my home computer through a server to my portable device, so not too worried about the server crashing. Wouldn't you keep a local backup regardless? Look how iPhoto stays synced with MobileMe galleries. Use your imagination a little.
Apple has already provided an elegant and powerful way to manage the problem of large collections and finite portable storage capacities with smart playlists and various methods of syncing through iTunes. Seems you have a few choices, all of which have an inherent compromise:
- continue to wish for something that is outside the bounds of current tech and cost effectiveness
- keep your "large" library pruned to remain at a smaller size than the largest capacity iPod
- learn to use the features of the technology that is already available.
Over time you will be paying over $2000 for the iphone. I paied $249 for my boost mobile blackberry and pay $60 a month. I'm not on a contract or anything. i can cancel anytime
and Welcome to life. Things in life coast money kid
I wasn't born yesterday. Not everything in life "coast" money neither does it cost money. The iPod touch already has a price on it. It doesn't need 3g because then what purpose does the iPhone have?
Don't tell me stuff in life "coast" money because i know things have prices on them. If you cant afford the iPhone, then what makes you deserve to demand 3g on the ipod touch? Absolutely none.
Because of the cheep ipad like data plans. I would like an iPhone but i dont want to be paying 100 bucks for 2 years.
The data plans for the iPod Touch can be just like the iPad
250MB $14.99 2GB $25
Thats pretty good. Remember over time you will be paying close to $2000 for the iPhone.
Trust me, when you get past the support of your parents, meaning you work for a living and pay bills and taxes you will understand what I mean.
if it gets a the same ipad data plan that would be the best thing EVER. Those mobile hotspots like the mifi are too expensive.
Agreed. I would buy a mifi if i didnt have to be stuck on a 2 year plan and buying the device by it self is even more expensive. Plus with 3G radios bulit in it would be great as we don't need to carry around another device.
I see offering it as standard across the touch line. Its there if you want it or not.
If the iPad can have 3G why can't the iPod Touch? It all makes sense. Sure I jailbreak my iPod and make calls and such, but I could do the same with my iPad. Plus whoever they choose as a carrier would make money as well. Not everyone jailbreaks their iDevices. They could call it the iPad Mini for all I care. It's something that makes total sense. Internet on the go, in a portable size. How does this negatively effect Apple?
If you can't face such a humiliating disaster, why not just carry a 13" MBP with you? In any case, you're apparently an extremely fortunate person if you don't have any other more important issues to occupy your life with.
You've obviously never been or known too many teenage girls who want something from "Daddy".
If I want everything with me at all times then let me. who are you to tell me I can't. Its not your library. Its mine. Plus when someone says they are planing on having a large library, it does not mean it will not stop. 40,000 songs? meh. I might not reach that much but it will be large.
Maybe i should tell you you can only place 5 songs in your playlists and have only 3 playlists.
Maybe i should tell you you can only place 5 songs in your playlists and have only 3 playlists.