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iPod touch Released

£ Vs $ *Sigh* Again...

If I'm slapping down cash for an iPod Touch I'll be taking advantage of the 25% discount I can get by purchasing one from across the pond. $299 is £148.09 (xe.com just this very minute). I know the £/$ thing gets batted around here on the occassion of any new product launch and is probably equally applicable to all manner of consumer goods, but it is irritating and noteworthy nonetheless.

There. Done.

P.S. I'll be waiting to see what further functionality can be unlocked by those pioneering spirits who like to hack and mod before purchasing. As I'm sure will many others given the success of the various iPhone projects. And there was us thinking 3rd party developers could be safely sandboxed by Safari. Should have known...
 
Schtumple said:
I have 15gb of music, SOMEHOW I deal with having a 2GB nano, wanna know how? I don't whine my ass off about how little the storage is and just get on with life, if you don't want an iPod touch, don't buy it.

Whining constantly won't make apple bring out a £225 32gb model tomorrow.... deal with technologies limitations.
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You are a much better person than I am.
 
I guess most people are as dissatisfied with the measly 16GB flash as i am. I'm sure it won't be too long before a 32GB version (or similar) comes around, so i think i will wait for that. Plus the bugs, if it is anything like my 1st gen iPod....
 
The Ratch said:
Good Call. Why does thin win over function, when the iPods were "thin" two years ago? If I were you, I'd do nothing. Why does the company that is an expert at "Simple" make us have a decision like this? Unfortunatly for me, capacity is a necessary requirement. Super Thin however is not. I could care less. So it looks like I'm sticking it out with my trusty ol'5G. The sad thing is I'd order the touch in a heartbeat.
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Sadly, Apple has almost always chosen Form over Function, which is really just lame. Look how many decades it took them to release a mouse with more than one button! They waited until technology let them keep the form and add the function.

A thicker iPod with usable capacity would still look nice.

All this has done is make me keep my 3G ipod and buy nothing new.
Actually, this plus the price drop has made the iPhone look more attractive to me. But i'd have to do the hack and I can't really depend that that will last.

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By pigumon at 2007-09-05
 
Derwood said:
If I'm slapping down cash for an iPod Touch I'll be taking advantage of the 25% discount I can get by purchasing one from across the pond. $299 is £148.09 (xe.com just this very minute). I know the £/$ thing gets batted around here on the occassion of any new product launch and is probably equally applicable to all manner of consumer goods, but it is irritating and noteworthy nonetheless.

There. Done.

P.S. I'll be waiting to see what further functionality can be unlocked by those pioneering spirits who like to hack and mod before purchasing. As I'm sure will many others given the success of the various iPhone projects. And there was us thinking 3rd party developers could be safely sandboxed by Safari. Should have known...
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Agreed on both points. I have a sneaking suspiscion that Apple will release a proper SDK for the iPhone within a year - I just think they want to get it polished before unleashing to the general development community first.
 
to the guys winging about not enough space for videos, this thing could potentially hold 30 films (depending on how you encoded it) that would take about 120 hours to watch, you guys must be on pretty long boring trips to need that, an ipod is for a portable selection of your media to use for the commute to work or a holiday, this is by far enough, you just want bragging rights or are too lazy to re-sync the thing.
 
ocyrus said:
Hey, all i know is i want that dock on my iphone. Its soo much sleeker.
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I agree...that is the only difference I have seen so far...and the option to Double Tap the Home Button to bring up song controls:

I am not getting the Touch due to my iPhone, by I do not understand why there is no external volume control...that sucks.
 
Apple today continued to prove that aesthetics trump everything else. And since that motto has helped get them where they are today, I don't begrudge them sticking to that plan.

The new iPod Nano looks deformed to me, but it's small. Mighty small. And it's light. Frankly, they should include a free AppleCare plan with each one because I expect lots of folks are going to drop it. :eek:

Yes, we could have gotten a 160GB iPod Touch at $499 with the same dimensions as the iPhone except probably being about twice as think in order to hold the HDD, the larger battery, and the Flash RAM for "anti-skip" functionality. And it likely would weigh twice as much as the iPhone.

Instead, Apple went for something even thinner (and lighter?) then the iPhone. Aesthetics won out over function, but even there, you sure get a lot of function. And it's sleek. And it's light. In other words, it's what people expect from Apple. They don't expect large, heavy bricks. That's what other companies release. It's why we make fun of those other companies and their products. Folks diss the Zune in part because it's not as sleek as the iPod. Look at all the grief tossed on the Archos PMPs even though they offer more capacity and a larger screen then the iPod/iPhone. It's "too big" or "too heavy".

So Apple gave us something sleek and slick. But to do it, they had to scrimp a bit in capacity. If Apple could have put a HDD in it and kept it the same dimensions and weight, they would have and the iPod Classic would never have been launched. But they couldn't, so they gave us a choice - capacity or features/aesthetics.

And choice is always good. :D
 
Hmm.. It may have already be said, but the AppleTV can do it over 802.11g fine, so ipod Touch might be able to as well... I see a future update coming where you can stream videos in your library to the device over wifi..

I don't really understand people wanting to keep their entire video library on an ipod - there could never be an ipod big enough for that, so why even try? being able to watch the videos anywhere in the house/garden on a whim without using up storage sounds nice though for my uses..

If im going away for a long break (hence needing vast numbers of movies etc) I'd take a laptop et al..

I'd prefer a HD based one too, really.. But this is still nice! Especially as it unites the iphone/ipod as a single platform, so games/software have more devices to run on.
 
speakerwizard said:
to the guys winging about not enough space for videos, this thing could potentially hold 30 films (depending on how you encoded it) that would take about 120 hours to watch, you guys must be on pretty long boring trips to need that, an ipod is for a portable selection of your media to use for the commute to work or a holiday, this is by far enough, you just want bragging rights or are too lazy to re-sync the thing.
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That brings up an interesting question: what is the optimal encoding? How large a file for a standard 2-hour movie?
 
In another thread, someone mentioned Apple covered every base with the new iPod lineup.

It's obviously a wide offering, but they missed at least one base...the semi-iPod addict. This is someone, like me, who buys pretty much every iteration of the iPod, usually putting tech lust ahead of practical need. (Note that a full-on addict will probably get one of each of the new iPods, eschewing therapy.)

I have an old 1G Shuffle attached to my clock radio. I use a 2G Shuffle when I want to travel extremely light and not far. I have a 8GB Nano for longer excursions when I still want to travel light but have more control over the music. I have a 30GB video iPod for road trips and air travel. And finally, an 8GB phone, which has become my daily iPod of choice.

Now, I certainly don't *need* a new iPod. But the prospect of a fresh specimen that could do something the others don't, was up until the keynote, enticing. But in my case, and I'm sure others like me, Apple has diffused the lineup so much that no one particular offering holds any special appeal this time around.

No need for a new Shuffle just to get a new color. A 2GB Shuffle? Hmm. A 2GB black Shuffle? Ka-ching!

The video Nano offers nothing useful to someone with a previous 8GB Nano and an iPhone. A video Nano with 16GB? Ka-ching!

The iPod Touch is just plain redundant to anyone with an iPhone. An iPod Touch with 160GB? Very different story. Ka-ching! (even though the desolate home screen makes it look like it's still in R&D)

The iPod Classic at 160GB is the closest thing to a desirable iPod to this quasi-addict. But without the nifty features of the Touch (wifi, etc), it feels like a compromise, and a go-between, until flash capacities go up and prices come down. (Apple might have gotten my $350 if the 160GB was thinner than my 30GB.) Up until now, Apple has invariably raised the bar with each new iPod model and compromise was never part of the equation.

This new lineup seems aimed at a giant focus group, (an aqua colored Nano AND a mint colored one?) and lacks the clear vision present in most previous iPod releases.

Oh who am I kidding? I'll probably get the 160.
 
engraving?

as i ordered the Touch was of half a mind to get it engraved with
"my other iPod is an iPhone"
:)
being in the UK that'll probably turn out to be true once they eventually release the iPhone over here, i guess i'm gonna have to get it also

on the plus side i'll be able to surf two websites simultaneously i guess
 
so for us souls in the uk who can' tget the iphone yet, we have a choice.
ipod touch which we can have this month or iphone god knows when and god knows how much.
until they release pricing and monthly fees for the iphone I will refrain from buying.
 
mcdj said:
In another thread, someone mentioned Apple covered every base with the new iPod lineup.

It's obviously a wide offering, but they missed at least one base...the semi-iPod addict. This is someone, like me, who buys pretty much every iteration of the iPod, usually putting tech lust ahead of practical need. (Note that a full-on addict will probably get one of each of the new iPods, eschewing therapy.)

I have an old 1G Shuffle attached to my clock radio. I use a 2G Shuffle when I want to travel extremely light and not far. I have a 8GB Nano for longer excursions when I still want to travel light but have more control over the music. I have a 30GB video iPod for road trips and air travel. And finally, an 8GB phone, which has become my daily iPod of choice.

wait, and youre only a SEMI-addict?
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Dimwhit said:
That brings up an interesting question: what is the optimal encoding? How large a file for a standard 2-hour movie?
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Just like the audio people bicker over the bitrate and quality of mp3 encoding, so do the video people.

Each person has their own preference. some like quality while others could care less.
This version of the "touch" falls into the "could care less" camp.
 
OrangeCuse44 said:
mcdj said:
In another thread, someone mentioned Apple covered every base with the new iPod lineup.

It's obviously a wide offering, but they missed at least one base...the semi-iPod addict. This is someone, like me, who buys pretty much every iteration of the iPod, usually putting tech lust ahead of practical need. (Note that a full-on addict will probably get one of each of the new iPods, eschewing therapy.)

I have an old 1G Shuffle attached to my clock radio. I use a 2G Shuffle when I want to travel extremely light and not far. I have a 8GB Nano for longer excursions when I still want to travel light but have more control over the music. I have a 30GB video iPod for road trips and air travel. And finally, an 8GB phone, which has become my daily iPod of choice.

wait, and youre only a SEMI-addict?
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christ leave some for the rest of us lol
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LoganT said:
I am so sick of hearing how 8 GB's could not possible be enough storage for people. In my iTunes library I only have 113 songs and I occasionally like to watch videos on the go. So 8 GB's for me and others is fine. I'm ecstatic that it only comes in 8 and 16 GB's as anything higher would just be a waste.
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LoganT, you need to realize that with 113 songs, your iTunes library probably falls in the bottom 1st percentile as far as size goes. It actually is really irritating that the capacity of the iPod touch is so small. I have a 60GB 5th gen iPod video. I've been excited about replacing it with the new iPod for a loooong time now because I had a pretty good idea of what awesome features the new device would offer. But 16GB really is not enough, especially for the so-called "flagship iPod." In my opinion, a flagship should not be 10% of its "little brother." In the past, Apple has made products that are the best in every way. It's pretty disappointing that such a compromise now has to be made when buying a new iPod.
 
Touch Size

I am sure a larger capacity Touch will be on the way soon. It sand to reason that the first priority was to release what the had ready. I'm sure by Christmas or MacWorld '08 we will see some improvements.
 
This Is A Pda

Hey whine-o's:

Steve Jobs just released the APPLE FRIGGING PDA, and nobody has noticed.

Look at other $399 PDAs on the market, and what do you get?

16GB? Try 0.25GB blech
Multi-Touch? Try stylus blech
Full browser with flash? Try internet explorer mini blech
Simple, perfect synchronization? Try Activesync blech
OS FRIGGIN X? Try Windows Mobile blech
8mm thin? Try double that blech
802.11g? Maybe, but probably for $100 more

WAKE UP! THE NEWTON 2007 JUST GOT RELEASED TO THE ENTIRE WORLD AND YOU ARE ALL CRAPPING YOURSELVES ABOUT 16000 MINUTES OF MUSIC BEING INSUFFICIENT FOR YOUR PERSONAL GOOD TASTE.

I give up on Apple users. They used to be cool.

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