iPod Video Photo

[asherman13]

I'm excited for Tuesday; unfortunately I'll be in class, but I might be able to get access to a laptop while I'm there, so maybe I'll be able to check in on what's going on.

Anybody know who's providing coverage, or rather, who got an invite? I know iLounge did...

 

[texasmafia]

If Apple really does come out with a player more geared towards video, don't you think firewire would come back? No matter what anyone says, Firewire is faster. I know on paper USB 2.0 and Firewire are supposedly close to the same but when I hook my 20 gig iPod up via USB it takes a lot longer than with firewire.

 

[nagromme]

Regarding rev A quality--ANY company's second version of a product (and sometimes even later units of the first version) will improve things discovered early on. This is not somehow an "Apple problem." Waiting for version B can be smart for anything from a computer to a car. If you can't wait, the warranty is there. And Apple has the best hardware reliability record in the industry. I'd sure rather have a version A Apple product than one from another company.

We're here on an Apple forum wondering why we hear so many stories about Apple defects. It's because it's an Apple forum

The characters, written in 'simplified' Chinese (the written form used in the People's Republic of China and not a 'computer font' as some has suggested), literally mean 'this side' - the first character 'this' and the second character 'side'. The phrase made up by those two characters could mean 'this side' as in 'the house is on this side of the fence' OR it could mean 'here', as in please come over here'. It could also mean a number of other things which is not really relevant to the current discussion. However, it does not automatically mean 'this side up' because 'this side' does not give an indication of up or down, left or right, etc.

The characters are not particulary well written but I don't write that well myself either! However, the writer could be trying to write in print and sometimes that could make the writing look awkward.

Thanks! I was told the characters meant "the explosive diarrhea of an elephant" but your translation makes more sense.

PS, does anyone know what the Chinese characters mean? The ones on the brown paper attached to the cable?

 

[texasmafia]

PS, does anyone know what the Chinese character mean? The ones on the brown paper attached to the cable?

That is what he was giving the meaning for.

 

[sartinsauce]

PS, does anyone know what the Chinese character mean? The ones on the brown paper attached to the cable?

I'm thinking there might be something to what's written on that brown tape. Can anyone translate it?

 

[crazyjoeda]

It looks real, but I can't say for sure. I would like to see the interface displayed on the screen instead of the coloured bars.

If it is real I probably won't be buying it unless it has some ground breaking feature that I must have. Especially since I have 30gig iPod with video.

 

[nagromme]

Maybe the barcode is irrelevant. It's just whatever was handy to write the vital "7" on (I'm half serious.)

Or, is it a fancy "F"? (I'm not serious.)

I'm thinking there might be something to what's written on that brown tape. Can anyone translate it?

That's a great thought! Anyone have a guess?

GOTO 10

 

[adamberti]

Ergonomics... anyone tried holding their existing iPod pretending it was a new Video iPod? I just don't find it that comfortable. Your hand is designed to fit a vertical object - cell phones, PDA's, iPods, remote controls, even kitchen knives.

And if I rotate my hand but hold the iPod like I do now, it's still not comfortable. I just can't imagine how I would hold this thing.

If this is a PDA style device, I can see it. But if it's simply for widescreen video, I don't see Apple going down this road as it's not comfortable in your hand and I can't see them overlooking that - unless someone has a suggestion on how to hold it comfortably.

 

[Chundles]

I'm thinking there might be something to what's written on that brown tape. Can anyone translate it?

It's Chinese, translates to:

Creative Zen Visionro

 

[Jedimofo]

Bigger than it looks....

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that is bigger than your average iPod. I question if it even is an iPod...... my doubt comes from the characters located on the bottom right barcode sticker. I would wager that sticker is only slightly smaller than an iPod Shuffle. Also, look at the cable on the right. It just looks larger, like a serial/parallel cable or something. This almost looks like the monitor from a G4 iMac removed from its stand and powered externally (I know, very improbable).

Now, I'm no handwriting analyist, but look closely at the hand-written #7 on the bottom-right sticker. That looks to be written with a sharpie, not a pen (the ink is not a fine enough line). I would say that is a medium tipped sharpie, and you can only write so small with those. Also, the pen strokes look very natural; something you can't do if you're having to write very small. This sticker is not small.

Check out the piece of cardboard covering the cable port. Those are handwritten characters, though I couldn't say what language. At any rate, they also appear to have been written with a felt marker, one with a larger tip than the #7.

I don't think this even is an iPod. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. I'm going to go with another prediciton: something along the lines of a tablet or, if you remember, there was a rumored media control device that was supposed to function as a control mechanisim for a home media network; not exactly a laptop -- that would fit with the touch screen patent.

Also, note the packing materials that the device is laying on. iPods normally come wrapped in a clear plastic sleeve. The texture of the material in this picture reminds me more of what portables/monitors come wrapped in, to protect them. Just look closely.

I could be very wrong, and maybe I'm seeing things that aren't there. Maybe I've misjudged the scale. But just consider what I'm saying and see what you think.

 

[tmornini]

Yeah, like he doesn't pop up enough already. Maybe an image of SJ, smiling in a black turtleneck. You know, like the Kodak Girl test/calibration image.

Speaking of which, does anyone have a high quality digital Kodak Girl? Kodak won't give or sell me one.

I have an entire Q60 test suite in my garage...

 

[Zmmyt]

Wish this is no fake.

And if it's not a fake I wonder if they use a way more complex program to run that sweet little machine. With a touch screen you get a lot more possibilities.

I hope it's going to be some kind of PDA like thing.

Great, Tuesday we will find out.

 

[sartinsauce]

I have an entire Q60 test suite in my garage...

Man, I don't even know what that is. I know about the one image, with the girl in the upper right hand corner, but a test suite! What is that?

Let's not bore anyone here. I want to know more, if you're willing to educate me, us the PM.

 

[LoMo]

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Thanks! I was told the characters meant "the explosive diarrhea of an elephant" but your translation makes more sense.

PS, does anyone know what the Chinese characters mean? The ones on the brown paper attached to the cable?

but like i said, the characters on the brown cardboard said 'this side'.. etc

 

[danielwsmithee]

I could be very wrong, and maybe I'm seeing things that aren't there. Maybe I've misjudged the scale. But just consider what I'm saying and see what you think.

Personally I think you are just seeing what you mind/heart wants so badly to see. I think it is the size of the current iPod.

 

[iMeowbot]

I haven't had a good dig around, but I could not find any hardware that uses Z/A at the end.

I found a couple, both are accessories.

M9269Z/A - Apple wireless mouse
M9837Z/A - iPod USB power adapter (in some markets it's M9837G/A).

So, with a sample size of two, I've come to the inescapable conclusion that this device is a new Apple peripheral: a USB mouse pad that displays iTunes visualizations!

 

[scienceguy]

I've resized, rotated and put the contrast up on the barcode area. Still hard to make out.

What puzzles me is that near the beginning it looks like M8719 but towards the end it fits MB719 better! Argh!

I've analyzed the barcode a little more, and found that it matches M8719Z/A exactly. This isn't really what I wanted to find out, but I think I'm convinced. The barcode sticker must have come from OS 10.2 Server.

 

[Revenant]

Chinese Translation

Hello everyone,

I don't know a lot about computers, however I know a little about Chinese language. I am currently studying Chinese in college as a second major. A friend of mine showed me this new Ipod and asked me what the characters were saying, and also led me to this thread. The characters used in marking this Ipod have some interesting significance in adding to the veracity of the photo.

First of all the simple translation, zhe4bian1 (???. Literally this means "This side" or "here". Numbers indicate tone. This short inscrition is written in Simplified Chinese (there are two kinds of Chinese script in use today more or less, Simplified and Traditional). The fact that this is written in Simplified tells us this photo is almost certainly from Mainland China (NOT Taiwan, NOT HK, NOT Macao), where simplified characters were promulgated after the Communist Revolution of 1949.

Now, as far as my knowlege goes, Zhe4bian1 in the sence of "here" is a southern Chinese thing more than a general Chinese way of saying here which is zher4 (?? - trad?the form taught to most forigeners, the easiest to say (imho).

Why is this important?

Becuase it means it could have been written in southern China, where the manufacturing goes one (a lot of it around Guangdong aka Canton).

Someone commented about the characters being written oddly - they aren't, they are just turned sideways. Obviously someone must have written on the plug thingy then turned it sideways to plug it in. I turned my monitor sideways to read it - and I could see it just fine (I'm on an ibook). The handwriting far from being sloppy is actually a little grandiose, complete with extra dian stroke and formalistic "chuo2" or movment radical, perhaps to make an official looking label.

There you have it, draw from this what ye may.

 

[Chundles]

but like i said, the characters on the brown cardboard said 'this side'.. etc

But like I said, they translate to "Creative Zen Visionro"

 

[steebu]

im no photoshop expert but i blasted the 5g leak and the supposed 6g leak in curves and this is what i found. i dont know what significance it is, but the 5g looks 'faker' than this 6g picture according to my methods. (bear in mind i have no idea what im doing)

if its real, apple has already sold me on it

 

[indeets]

nope

They look like a wrist strap for a camera to me.

In Japan and China everybody use this type of strap for the cellphone. not a fake image.

 

[vandy]

It's my hope that they market it as a mac, and not an ipod...you know, along the lines of the Mac nano. Does everyone remember Home-to-go? It was a feature of panther that was scrapped at the last minute. Think of plugging this baby into your mac, and it syncing with your home folder. You could go to any mac, plug it in, and be using your home folder, preferences..everything. Don't have a mac near by? that's okay, it's essentially a computer on it's own. basic functionality through itunes, iphoto, ical. it plays your videos. note that its not being marketed as a video ipod, much like the current 5g. its a mac, just with portable video abilities. text input is done through an on screen keyboard that appears when 4 fingers are present on the screen. here's a feature set that you will be seeing:
It's mac os Xi, not the ipod os, and it will feature for sure itunes and safari. it has wireless built in, and will have the ability to play music over an airport express. ichat, yes. apple will also be introducing their own ipod style boombox which will also have its own hard drive. the pictures you see are real. the form factor is bigger than a normal ipod with a 16:10 aspect screen, 640x pixels. about $500 bucks to start out. still unsure about isight...
oh, and did i mention widgets? there will be a new app out that will allow people to more easily develop their widgets (dashcode) and have them to go anywhere. new widgets, like those provided by google, will make this handheld very slick to use. http://www.google.com/macwidgets/index.html

 

[pdpfilms]

In Japan and China everybody use this type of strap for the cellphone. not a fake image.

Gosh, i love all these positively definitive deductions going on in here.

"Messy handwriting. Totally fake."

"Plastic+white=iPod. Definetly not fake."

"That cord is really two cords. FAKE."

 

[LoMo]

But like I said, they translate to "Creative Zen Visionro"

Well, actually it's 'Creative Zen Vision: PowerPro'

 

[LoMo]

Hello everyone,

I don't know a lot about computers, however I know a little about Chinese language. I am currently studying Chinese in college as a second major. A friend of mine showed me this new Ipod and asked me what the characters were saying, and also led me to this thread. The characters used in marking this Ipod have some interesting significance in adding to the veracity of the photo.

First of all the simple translation, zhe4bian1 (???. Literally this means "This side" or "here". Numbers indicate tone. This short inscrition is written in Simplified Chinese (there are two kinds of Chinese script in use today more or less, Simplified and Traditional). The fact that this is written in Simplified tells us this photo is almost certainly from Mainland China (NOT Taiwan, NOT HK, NOT Macao), where simplified characters were promulgated after the Communist Revolution of 1949.

Now, as far as my knowlege goes, Zhe4bian1 in the sence of "here" is a southern Chinese thing more than a general Chinese way of saying here which is zher4 (?? - trad?the form taught to most forigeners, the easiest to say (imho).

Why is this important?

Becuase it means it could have been written in southern China, where the manufacturing goes one (a lot of it around Guangdong aka Canton).

Someone commented about the characters being written oddly - they aren't, they are just turned sideways. Obviously someone must have written on the plug thingy then turned it sideways to plug it in. I turned my monitor sideways to read it - and I could see it just fine (I'm on an ibook). The handwriting far from being sloppy is actually a little grandiose, complete with extra dian stroke and formalistic "chuo2" or movment radical, perhaps to make an official looking label.

There you have it, draw from this what ye may.

You should see my earlier post. I think we are on the same wavelength.