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That's an 8 NOT a B!!!

Folks that's a number 8... I enhanced the image and it's definitely an 8, no mistake about it. Check it out...

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scienceguy said:
I've analyzed the barcode a little more, and found that it matches M8719Z/A exactly. This isn't really what I wanted to find out, but I think I'm convinced. The barcode sticker must have come from OS 10.2 Server.

I call FAKE! That is totally a photochop!! It's a B, NOT AN 8!! :mad:
 

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You guys seem to be forgetting that, even if it is the server sticker, said sticker is still attached to something that looks remarkably like a video iPod of some sort. That is definitely a real sticker.

It's not like they were "hurr hurr lets stick this OSX server sticker on this strange device and fool everyone hurr hurr".
 
Revenant said:
Someone commented about the characters being written oddly - they aren't, they are just turned sideways. Obviously someone must have written on the plug thingy then turned it sideways to plug it in. I turned my monitor sideways to read it - and I could see it just fine (I'm on an ibook). The handwriting far from being sloppy is actually a little grandiose, complete with extra dian stroke and formalistic "chuo2" or movment radical, perhaps to make an official looking label.
Yes, it is a little grandiose! Just as (L) was trying to explain later. People who can write Chinese wouldn't write the radical on the left and lower sides of each character the way it is written. It looks like someone who didn't know Chinese took it from a computer font.
 
Revenant said:
Hello everyone,

First of all the simple translation, zhe4bian1 (???. Literally this means "This side" or "here". Numbers indicate tone. This short inscrition is written in Simplified Chinese (there are two kinds of Chinese script in use today more or less, Simplified and Traditional). The fact that this is written in Simplified tells us this photo is almost certainly from Mainland China (NOT Taiwan, NOT HK, NOT Macao), where simplified characters were promulgated after the Communist Revolution of 1949.

Now, as far as my knowlege goes, Zhe4bian1 in the sence of "here" is a southern Chinese thing more than a general Chinese way of saying here which is zher4 (?? - trad?the form taught to most forigeners, the easiest to say (imho).

Why is this important?

Becuase it means it could have been written in southern China, where the manufacturing goes one (a lot of it around Guangdong aka Canton).

Someone commented about the characters being written oddly - they aren't, they are just turned sideways. Obviously someone must have written on the plug thingy then turned it sideways to plug it in. I turned my monitor sideways to read it - and I could see it just fine (I'm on an ibook). The handwriting far from being sloppy is actually a little grandiose, complete with extra dian stroke and formalistic "chuo2" or movment radical, perhaps to make an official looking label.

Hi, I'm a Hong Kong Chinese ....

1. Your translation "This Side" is perfectly correct ! "zhe4bian1" is "This side".

2. But "here" is not correct for "zhe4bian1" IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION. Its meaning would depends on context. "zhe4bian1" could be "here" if we are talking about a place, e.g. Come here ..."Dou...zhe4bian1". You are also right on "zher4" is "here". But "zher4" would not be used in situation of describing something with two sides... ....... but nevermind .... My point is just : one cannot deduct it is from Southern China by it saying "zhe4bian1" ...

3. Yes, it is simplified chinese character --> Mainland China

4. [Most importantly !!!!] The handwriting do look ODD from our (Chinese) point of view BECAUSE it looks like written by a four years old !!! OR .... written by a westerner just started learning and to write Chinese Characters for the first time !!!!
 
Bottom right corner!! take a look!!

:confused: Anybody noticed the the black spot in the bottom right corner???:rolleyes:
I presume that that's the place where the date of the photo is!!!
Why would anyone wanted to hide this when it's not fake????:D
 
damn. holy monstrous hydra-headed thread batman...

If we get a billion posts in this thread by Tuesday, do you suppose Steve will give us all free new videopod/PDA/toaster oven/cell phone devices?

Although, I admit that I have been impressed by (some) of the sleuthing going on here...
 
Teer said:
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4. [Most importantly !!!!] The handwriting do look ODD from our (Chinese) point of view BECAUSE it looks like written by a four years old !!! OR .... written by a westerner just started learning Chinese Characters yesterday !!!!
Maybe it was written on the tape after the tape was already adhered to the connector - that would make the handwriting bad. :confused:

(or maybe it was written by an American copying it out of a text book trying to trick us all)
 
somo said:
:confused: Anybody noticed the the black spot in the bottom right corner???:rolleyes:
I presume that that's the place where the date of the photo is!!!
Why would anyone wanted to hide this when it's not fake????:D
Not sure I buy this is real, but if it is and and an employee took the photo you would think that they wouldn't want to give clues to his or her boss as to when the photo was taken making it easier to track down the "leaker"
 
So looking at the picture with the hand is seems there is also a black version.
This seems consistent with the current lineup.

another reason to thinks it's possibly real.
 
Teer said:
Hi,
4. [Most importantly !!!!] The handwriting do look ODD from our (Chinese) point of view BECAUSE it looks like written by a four years old !!! OR .... written by a westerner just started learning Chinese Characters yesterday !!!!

You are right, somthing is up with the handwriting. Maybe he was just trying to make it look bold and official by writing it that way like just the same way you may write "THIS END UP" all in large bold capitals so no one gets it wrong? The movment rads aren't written how you'd expect someone to write them,no squiggle, an extra dian and sort of a blockish bold appearance.

Really we are all acting on surmise and guesses about wether this is fake or not, us on the language front, the photo detectives and the guys trying to puzzle out the barcode. It COULD be a western engeneer or techie writing it straight from a book or computer font, it COULD be a bolded type statement (I guess?), it COULD be a 14 year old from Mississippi looking up the correct characters and pasting them in or maybe just a guy with wierd handwriting. The extra dian is a real puzzler though, thats a total formalisim in my limited experience, not somthing you write out unless you are an 18th century official, a computer or some guy with a pompous writing style.
 
LoMo said:
You should see my earlier post. I think we are on the same wavelength. ;)

Definatley, there is a significant amount of information that can be interpreted from those two characters.

One funney thing, wether this is a real Ipod or not is that Apple should definatley begin making such a model! If it is a fake, whoever thought up the idea needs to be hired as an engeneer for Apple, this product would be a wild sucess without a doubt!
 
polyesterlester said:
No, I think you misunderstood. Nagromme was referring to the Chinese characters on the brown tape, of which I would also like to know the meaning. Anyone out there know?

"This side" or possibly "here" but the previous poster says that would be gramatically incorrect. See above posts.
 
Revenant said:
Definatley, there is a significant amount of information that can be interpreted from those two characters.

One funney thing, wether this is a real Ipod or not is that Apple should definatley begin making such a model! If it is a fake, whoever thought up the idea needs to be hired as an engeneer for Apple, this product would be a wild sucess without a doubt!

Definitely, and I'll be (one of the) first in line. :)
 
polyesterlester said:
No, I think you misunderstood. Nagromme was referring to the Chinese characters on the brown tape, of which I would also like to know the meaning. Anyone out there know?

There are only two Chinese characters in the whole picture - on the brown tape/cardboard stuck on the connector. I believe all the earlier posts (including mine) are referring to them. If you see any other, please point them out 'cos I can't spot them!
 
Mickitgood said:
Not sure I buy this is real, but if it is and and an employee took the photo you would think that they wouldn't want to give clues to his or her boss as to when the photo was taken making it easier to track down the "leaker"

Like the time and date of the photo would be easy to reference with time cards or who had access to secure areas at that time.
 
lars steenhoff said:
So looking at the picture with the hand is seems there is also a black version.
This seems consistent with the current lineup.

another reason to thinks it's possibly real.

The photo of the black one is a fake. I assumed it was a joke. The burn tool was used to add a shadow under the thumb (the burn tool was set to "shadows," it looks like - as opposed to "highlights" or "midtones"). Paste a white screen in, add a grain over the whole thing, and voilà!
 
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