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Uh, there were at least 2 replies in this very thread that literally said "Iran was never a threat"
Perhaps better verbiage is "Iran was never a substantive threat."

The main point is that whatever threat existed, it was far smaller than any level that would justify war. Because war has many long-predicted downside consequences. Obviously to anyone but Trump, who does not read. There are very good reasons why all previous POTUS used other means to effectively neutralize Iran.
 
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So Trump was lying last summer?

Uh, a nuclear weapon is not the only way they could be a threat. But allowing it would be a catastrophic mistake. Were every single US president since Carter all lying?

“The United States will never negotiate with terrorists. The Iranian government has committed an act of terrorism against the United States.” - Jimmy Carter

“Iran has been determined to export its revolution and to threaten our friends and our interests in the region.” - Ronald Reagan

“Iran’s support for terrorist groups and its effort to destabilize the region pose a direct threat to our friends and to the stability of the Gulf.” - George H. W. Bush

“Iran’s support for terrorism and its efforts to export its revolution continue to threaten the security of the United States and our allies.” - Bill Clinton

“I believe that the Iranian – if Iran had a nuclear weapon, it would be a dangerous threat to world peace.” - George W. Bush

“Among U.S. policymakers, there’s never been disagreement on the danger posed by an Iranian nuclear bomb. It would spark an arms race in the world’s most unstable region, and turn every crisis into a potential nuclear showdown.” - Barack Obama

“Our aim is to protect the American populace by eradicating imminent threats posed by the Iranian regime, a ruthless faction of exceptionally harsh individuals. Their ominous actions pose direct risks to the United States, our military personnel, our installations abroad, and our allies globally.” - Donald Trump
 
The obvious answer would be that 45 withdrew from the agreement and eventually attacked them.
But those sanctions on ballistic missiles remain in place to this day. Why wasn't that enough?

There is no way they continued to enrich Uranium though. Wait... they themselves said they continued, you know, for civilian energy. Iran can be trusted for sure.

Sooooo willing to believe a regime that murders its own people, is hell bent on terrorizing the world, and literally states, "death to America". But some words in a non-treaty will do the trick. 😏
 
But those sanctions on ballistic missiles remain in place to this day. Why wasn't that enough?

There is no way they continued to enrich Uranium though. Wait... they themselves said they continued, you know, for civilian energy. Iran can be trusted for sure.

Sooooo willing to believe a regime that murders its own people, is hell bent on terrorizing the world, and literally states, "death to America". But some words in a non-treaty will do the trick. 😏
Iran was meeting it’s obligations under the JCPOA until trump pulled out.

 
Uh, a nuclear weapon is not the only way they could be a threat. But allowing it would be a catastrophic mistake. Were every single US president since Carter all lying?

“The United States will never negotiate with terrorists. The Iranian government has committed an act of terrorism against the United States.” - Jimmy Carter

“Iran has been determined to export its revolution and to threaten our friends and our interests in the region.” - Ronald Reagan

“Iran’s support for terrorist groups and its effort to destabilize the region pose a direct threat to our friends and to the stability of the Gulf.” - George H. W. Bush

“Iran’s support for terrorism and its efforts to export its revolution continue to threaten the security of the United States and our allies.” - Bill Clinton

“I believe that the Iranian – if Iran had a nuclear weapon, it would be a dangerous threat to world peace.” - George W. Bush

“Among U.S. policymakers, there’s never been disagreement on the danger posed by an Iranian nuclear bomb. It would spark an arms race in the world’s most unstable region, and turn every crisis into a potential nuclear showdown.” - Barack Obama

“Our aim is to protect the American populace by eradicating imminent threats posed by the Iranian regime, a ruthless faction of exceptionally harsh individuals. Their ominous actions pose direct risks to the United States, our military personnel, our installations abroad, and our allies globally.” - Donald Trump
You're saying all that like it's a gotcha moment.

You're the only one who actually thinks that the other side thinks Iran is not a threat. No one said that, and if you believe we did, you're not reading it right. We're only saying that to counter @tim Jobs’s 2nd argument that Iran would be pushing that big red button without hesitation by clarifying that they're no close to nuclear weapons as they were last year. And that there's better ways to disarm them without spending $1B a day when he's out there golfing.

And to counter your argument that Iran poses a threat, yes, they do, and the intelligence agencies have been at the top of it for decades now as it's their job. Unlike Dozy Don, who's very intelligence briefing-averse. They've been doing a great job for decades until Tulsi Gabbard took over. When it comes to security of our country, boring is good.
 
Gas prices up from $2.80 to $4.20 in under a month and now this.

Thanks Donny for finally Making America Great.
The president of peace; industrial, financial and social stability at work.
Crazy how many people still refuse to acknowledge he did and continues to play America.
As if admitting you were wrong about an individual now is worse than later, or never.
I’d only their decisions would have an impact around the world.
 
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The US and the world was always in danger.
Of course "
The US and the world was always in danger."

How so? Because they are fighting back? Or because the now leader (who as allegedly been the person pulling the strings regardless is now the actual leader? The regime is the same. Monsters as they always have been.
Yes the regime is the same, just even more radical. Not "regime change" like Trump declares/lies.
 
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Uh, a nuclear weapon is not the only way they could be a threat. But allowing it would be a catastrophic mistake. Were every single US president since Carter all lying?

“The United States will never negotiate with terrorists. The Iranian government has committed an act of terrorism against the United States.” - Jimmy Carter

“Iran has been determined to export its revolution and to threaten our friends and our interests in the region.” - Ronald Reagan

“Iran’s support for terrorist groups and its effort to destabilize the region pose a direct threat to our friends and to the stability of the Gulf.” - George H. W. Bush

“Iran’s support for terrorism and its efforts to export its revolution continue to threaten the security of the United States and our allies.” - Bill Clinton

“I believe that the Iranian – if Iran had a nuclear weapon, it would be a dangerous threat to world peace.” - George W. Bush

“Among U.S. policymakers, there’s never been disagreement on the danger posed by an Iranian nuclear bomb. It would spark an arms race in the world’s most unstable region, and turn every crisis into a potential nuclear showdown.” - Barack Obama

“Our aim is to protect the American populace by eradicating imminent threats posed by the Iranian regime, a ruthless faction of exceptionally harsh individuals. Their ominous actions pose direct risks to the United States, our military personnel, our installations abroad, and our allies globally.” - Donald Trump
Sure every POTUS recognized threat from Iran. But every POTUS before Trump also recognized huge downsides to war with Iran that far outweighed any benefits to war. Only one POTUS was dumb enough to go to war with Iran.
 
You mean the GLOBAL inflation due to supply chain issues brought on by Covid? That inflation? The inflation the US recovered from far faster than any other developed nation? That Inflation?
Sure "the US recovered from far faster," but do not worry. Trump's war and his blathering about tariffs will ensure another round of inflation. IMO a recession too.
 
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Agree with Warren Buffett that a nuclear armed Iran increases the chance of nuclear war exponentially ... especially since they have proclaimed, since the current terrorist regime gained power in 1979, that it wants to destroy the United States and would do so immediately upon being able. The Iranian terrorist regime has been bent on creating conflict and chaos across the world for decades. It had to be stopped and America, per usual, is the only country willing and able to lead. The downsides to not acting dwarf the worst case scenarios of the present action. The world should be thankful.
 
But those sanctions on ballistic missiles remain in place to this day. Why wasn't that enough?
I’m certainly not defending sanctions. Not sure why you are changing the topic.

There is no way they continued to enrich Uranium though. Wait... they themselves said they continued, you know, for civilian energy. Iran can be trusted for sure.
They didn’t need to be trusted. That was why monitoring was part of the agreement. Until 45 decided to withdraw from the JCPOA, Iran was in compliance.
 
Typical liberal debate strategy. Anything positive economic wise, we did that. Anything negative, it was someone else's fault. Always hilarious when they take credit if the market goes up 3 years into the next president's term if he's a republican. But if its down, they'll blame the previous republican president 3 years into their own term.
Funny how you can switch up a couple words and it’s actually the truth. If only you wouldn’t feel the need to support your „side“ senselessly, even if it’s lying to your face.
You can blame „liberals“ all you want. That doesn’t change what Trump does and what happens because of him.
 
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But those sanctions on ballistic missiles remain in place to this day. Why wasn't that enough?

There is no way they continued to enrich Uranium though. Wait... they themselves said they continued, you know, for civilian energy. Iran can be trusted for sure.

Sooooo willing to believe a regime that murders its own people, is hell bent on terrorizing the world, and literally states, "death to America". But some words in a non-treaty will do the trick. 😏
You act like North Korea doesn’t exist.
 
Agree with Warren Buffett that a nuclear armed Iran increases the chance of nuclear war exponentially ... especially since they have proclaimed, since the current terrorist regime gained power in 1979, that it wants to destroy the United States and would do so immediately upon being able. The Iranian terrorist regime has been bent on creating conflict and chaos across the world for decades. It had to be stopped and America, per usual, is the only country willing and able to lead. The downsides to not acting dwarf the worst case scenarios of the present action. The world should be thankful.
Thankful for this small excursion? Thankful for the absolute annihilation of Irans nuclear facilities last year? Thankful for a won war the US still expects NATO personnel for? Thankful for yet another war that enrages the Middle East?
Yeah, sure. Because there was nooo other way.
 
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