Iran Reportedly Warns Apple is Among Potential Targets

[steve62388]

Of course "The Iranian regime is pure evil by almost any measure." Just like Saddam Hussein was pure evil by almost any measure.

But in neither case was the pure evil the point. The question in both [IMO wrong] wars was "Is going to war appropriate, worth the downside costs?" and the answer both times was no.

I would also add, ‘are you even capable of affecting change?’. I would argue if the answer is, ‘no’, then you don’t have an imperative to do so.

 

[trusso]

Iran's allies will support this. Those allies being Russia, China, North Korea and American liberals conservatives

Fixed that for you.

 

[Madhatter32]

You’ve used yourself as a primary source. That’s pretty wild.

LOL -- I did indeed happen to witness it but here it is anyway should my testimony or veracity be challenged. Probably starts at the 3:30 mark or so.

 

[ClaraStahlbaum]

LOL -- I did indeed happen to witness it but here it is anyway should my testimony or veracity be challenged. Probably starts at the 3:30 mark or so.

Keep in mind Hegseth is a Christian Nationalist - I wouldn't trust his word.

 

[steve62388]

Let's expound on those answers. Let's assume Iran, using its current ballistic missile and nuclear technology (using either it's current plutonium or highly enriched uranium stock) eviscerates New York (or London for that matter), which is explicitly what they said they were planning to do with respect to the United States. Is the answer to your question still "no"? Even the IAEA reported that Iran has violated it international commitments well prior to hostilities.

The answer should be "yes" both times -- for the world and generations to come.

The IAEA stated that Iran was meeting it’s JCPOA obligations until trump pulled out of the agreement.

Iran is Implementing Nuclear-related JCPOA Commitments, Director General Amano Tells IAEA Board

Iran is implementing its nuclear-related commitments under the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), IAEA Director General Yukiya Amano told the Agency’s 35-nation Board of Governors on Monday.

www.iaea.org

 

[siddavis]

Sure every POTUS recognized threat from Iran. But every POTUS before Trump also recognized huge downsides to war with Iran that far outweighed any benefits to war. Only one POTUS was dumb enough to go to war with Iran.

No, they were just ******* worried about their political futures.

 

[siddavis]

However it is pretty clear who the bully is in 2026, and it definitely is not Iran. Iran did not break the treaty, a bully USA POTUS broke the treaty.

[Note: I am no Iran supporter. I am just a citizen appalled by really stupid actions by a POTUS.]

IT WAS NOT A TREATY! It was a steaming pile of dung which is why Obama bypassed the treaty process. Then in his wisdom shipped loads of cash to that disgusting regime. They were going to use it for aid don’t you know.

 

[steve62388]

No, you are misinformed. The US did obliterate the reactors but did not capture the already existing nuclear material -- enough highly enriched uranium to create about 11 bombs assuming a viable delivery mechanism.

Moreover, Iran was not in compliance as reported by the IAEA back in 2025 -- so again not correct.

Also, it was Obama gave the Iranians $1.7 billion in cash -- not Trump. I would encourage you to read up more on the actual facts from neutral sources.

Context is important.

The money was payment after the US took Iran’s money for a weapons contract and never delivered, the dispute had been in arbitration for years. There was reasonable cause to think the US would lose the case, and payment was also tied to the JCPOA (the deal to prevent Iran’s development of nuclear weapons, which it was adhering to until trump ripped it up).

The Obama administration gave $1.7 billion in cash to ...

Executive summary The Obama administration settled a decades‑old arbitration claim with Iran for $1.7 billion in January 2016; officials say the payment ...

factually.co

 

[ClaraStahlbaum]

IT WAS NOT A TREATY! It was a steaming pile of dung which is why Obama bypassed the treaty process. Then in his wisdom shipped loads of cash to that disgusting regime. They were going to use it for aid don’t you know.

You don't want loads of cash going to Iran, but you are fine with loads of cash going to Israel. How about neither?

 

[siddavis]

Of course "The Iranian regime is pure evil by almost any measure." Just like Saddam Hussein was pure evil by almost any measure.

But in neither case was the pure evil the point. The question in both [IMO wrong] wars was "Is going to war appropriate, worth the downside costs?" and the answer both times was no.

People were saying the same things until Pearl Harbor in 1941.

 

[siddavis]

Context is important.

The money was payment after the US took Iran’s money for a weapons contract and never delivered, the dispute had been in arbitration for years. There was reasonable cause to think the US would lose the case, and payment was also tied to the JCPOA (the deal to prevent Iran’s development of nuclear weapons, which it was adhering to until trump ripped it up).

The Obama administration gave $1.7 billion in cash to ...

Executive summary The Obama administration settled a decades‑old arbitration claim with Iran for $1.7 billion in January 2016; officials say the payment ...

factually.co

Then why did it have to be delivered in such secrecy?

 

[Zenman12]

No, actually I’m frightened by the impression that I’m of the few here who know about North Korea.

You act like a world where a non-nuclear North Korea didn’t exist.

Maybe learn from history instead of criticizing those who support not repeating it.

If you truly believed in the stuff you said, you’d want to deal with North Korea. Only Iran now and only after 40 years of Benjamin telling us they were on the cusp of a weapon. Did the Korean War stop North Korea from gaining a nuclear weapon?

I’m so glad you have our best interest at heart sending other people’s children off to die to prevent Iran from becoming North Korea due to our previous mistakes. Very thoughtful of you.

 

[Allen_Wentz]

I don't want that agreement, I want regime removal

Just curious. How is that "I want regime removal" thing going for you? The Iran regime remains entrenched and even more radically anti-USA. The USA has expended military lives and hundreds of billions of dollars of munitions, significantly degrading our weapons safety net.

And the world, including many of our pre-Trump allies, increasingly hates the USA. Many USA allies have reduced support of USA military. The regime removal that needs to happen is in the USA.

The Iran war has had zero value add unless you are a narcissistic toddler in the WH or a munitions manufacturer.

 

[steve62388]

LOL -- I did indeed happen to witness it but here it is anyway should my testimony or veracity be challenged. Probably starts at the 3:30 mark or so.

At various stages officials, including hesgeth and trump, have given all sorts of different reasons for the war. Hesgeth has also used rhetoric to frame it as a religious war, which is just psychotic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationale_for_the_2026_Iran_war

 

[steve62388]

Then why did it have to be delivered in such secrecy?

It wasn’t secret, we all know about it.

I just provided you a source with the facts (including why specific payment methods were used), if you choose to ignore those then I cannot help you.

 

[Allen_Wentz]

People were saying the same things until Pearl Harbor in 1941.

We must never forget Pearl Harbor. However it is a way wrong analogy to Iran. Before WWII Japan had aggressive expansionist military policies that the USA had to stick its head in the sand to pretend did not exist.

Iran pre-Trump was not being ignored. Iran was being contained via diplomacy and building a strong community of USA allies. Trump has been doing his best to destroy our State Department and our soft power, and now is squandering our military and alienating our previous allies.

This guy Trump is horrific for the USA.

 

[NewOldStock]

Get rid of Iran Scum after all and all the liars at CBS!

 

[jimmy_john]

The Iran war has had zero value add unless you are a narcissistic toddler in the WH or a munitions manufacturer.

Oh it’s also adding value to the domestic military drone investors

Trump sons investing in domestic drone production businesses

The FCC banned the use of foreign-made drones and components in December.

abcnews.com

 

[NewOldStock]

Iran was being contained via diplomacy and building a strong community of USA allies.

Such lies and they sent rockets and missiles in to near by neighbors countries and that is a good thing.
47 year war buddy. You must hate peace and life.

 

[jimmy_john]

47 year war buddy.

Is this the new rationalization? I hadn’t heard that one.

I do admire the creativity sometimes. No limit to what people will believe!

 

[ThomasJL]

Any corporation aiding and abetting Israel’s and America’s illegal war against Iran, is a legitimate target.

Israel and America are the Axis of Epstein. They need to be defeated.

The Epstein class rapes little girls in America and kills little girls in Iran. On the very first day of this war, America did a double-tap strike on a girls’ school in Tehran, first killing over 168 schoolgirls, and then striking it again to kill the first responders (paramedics and firefighters).

I feel sorry for the innocent men, women and children in Iran who have been killed. I don’t feel sorry for any corporation that gets targeted for helping the Axis of Epstein kill innocent civilians.

 

[Mrbobb]

What say you will, but Iran is playing the right cards while our leaders is trying to extricate themselves.

 

[Jumpthesnark]

Then why did it have to be delivered in such secrecy?

If it was in secret then how does everyone know? I'll tell you how: the payment was announced by Obama when it took place. Check the WSJ's reporting.

The money was Iran's own money that had been delivered years earlier, as part of an arms deal that never took place, before the fall of the Shah in 1979.

 

[ddhhddhh2]

Hope this doesn’t offend anyone from the great American Empire .

As someone watching from outside the “war zone,” I’ve been keeping an eye on Trump for a while. Dude does a lotta wild stuff, but at the same time, he’s kinda predictable in a weird way.

Sometimes I’m honestly uncomfortable with what he says or does. Other times I feel like… he’s just putting on a show (and yeah, not a bad actor tbh, though still nowhere near Reagan lol).

But every time I start thinking “okay I gotta criticize this,” I stop myself and go: come on, doesn’t he kinda represent like… half the country?

So whenever I feel like he’s being totally unreasonable, I wonder...is it really just him, or is it actually what like 50% of people want?

And then I get even more curious what’s going on in the heads of the other 50%? All of this is honestly pretty fascinating to watch from the outside.

Especially when I saw him say something like “if the UK and France want oil.

 

[Parowdy]

Yeah sure ... what do you care if New York gets eviscerated as promised by the terrorist regime in Tehran? It's not your people.

You really think Iran would be able to target New York and Washington at the same time? Because no way NY is more important than DC, even if it has high symbolic value.
New York was no more at risk before the excursion as it is now.