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It's a phone, not a tool, you aren't using a hammer everyday like you are with your iPhone.

I have owned iPods and iPhones as long as I can remember and can honestly say I'm extremely bored with Apple's operating system.

This is where we part. My phone is a tool. Just like if I was a carpenter, my hammer would be a tool.
 
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Yes, iOS is a glorified App launcher. There is nothing else to it. And while the Apps are important, Apple can't rely on just them forever.

Even Steve said the best part about iOS is the Apps! SpringBORED is exactly that, an app launcher. The apps do all the talking, pleasing, and surprising.
 
Again, the Apps are important, but as competitors catch up in the sheer numbers of apps but more importantly in quality, where does that leave Apple? If competitors offer a good alternative in terms of the OS and can compete in the the app market, Apple may suffer. This won't happen overnight, and could take a long time but if I were on the iOS development team, I would be a little concerned.
 
I'm not bored with anything about the iPhone per se (or iOS) but the App store is another story. It's tedious to shop in there if you're "just looking" as opposed to being ready to search for a specific app. Seems to me that Apple does a better job showcasing assorted products in the music or video sections of the store than over in Apps. They go to the trouble of curating the apps for us, which I appreciate, but then it's like they sort of stack them up in the aisles and you're on your own as a shopper. The iPhone is a toolbox, the apps are tools but the App store has a kind of lemonade-stand, afterthought aspect to it. Needs work!
 
The UI is something I am not bored with.

When I got my first iPhone, the UI was something that really impressed me due to its logical and intuitive layout. When I was playing around with one in my local phone store, I was able to do everything I wanted on it without having to ask for assistance, bear in mind that this was the first time I'd laid my hands on an iPhone, something I wasn't able to do with the Blackberry and the Android handsets I had also tried.

The UI may look the same, but we have had the additions such as multi tasking/fast app switching, Notification centre etc, so there is always going to be something else added.

A lot of people don't like a BIG change from what their used with, gradual, small changes are OK.
 
iOS has been the same since 2007. Unless there is drastic improvement in hardware on the next gen iPad, upgrading will be a lot less exciting. Android 4.1 (jellybean) looks like a breath of fresh air on the nexus 7, especially with project butter making the OS more responsive than the previous versions of android, which IMO made android a horrible experience. Anybody else feeling less enthusiastic about upgrading to the newest iPad next year knowing that not much has changed in ios 6?
you may be bored...then you go to android and realize it's not what you thought it would be. Oh you see a cool app on the play store? Oh....my device isn't supported?

I've tried several android phones and the nexus 7 and i eventually came back to iPhone and iPad every time. The iPhone and iPad work so well and it's so polished, but yes I was getting bored so wanted to try something new.

I felt like i had to change the way I do things just by switching operating systems. I had to tweak the phone like crazy to have any kind of battery life and it was still no where near what apple provided.

iOS may get boring at times, but it "just works". The app store is awesome and the apps on iPad are way above what android has. An app that shows up on the app store will work on your device. Not the case with play store.

I determined that yeah it may get boring at times, but hey it works like it should and i don't have to sacrifice things just bc I want a different look.
 
iOS has been the same since 2007. Unless there is drastic improvement in hardware on the next gen iPad, upgrading will be a lot less exciting. Android 4.1 (jellybean) looks like a breath of fresh air on the nexus 7...?

I love the iOS ecosystem honestly, and I love the UI as it is. I recently bought an N7 just for the hell of it, it's just $200 so why not.

Compared to iOS, Android still has a lot of drawbacks. You need third party apps for many things and the way I see it, if you're gonna rely on having to download third party apps for the most basic things, then why should you lower yourself down on everything else as well? Just jailbreak your iOS device and get the best of all worlds, easily.

One of the basic things which require you to download third party apps is the screen lighting up when you get a notification. I RELY on that feature. My iOS devices have been on silent mode ever since I bought them, due to work and etc, and so I only realize that I have mail or a message when the screen lights up else it gets unnoticed.

The N7 doesn't have a native/stock camera app. What? I had to go through so many till I settled for Instagram. Some people might think it's not important to have a camera app on a tablet, but hey, the users might not have a camera at hand or they just want to take a picture of themselves with their friends somewhere/anywhere and they might have the N7 as their only device with camera at the moment, what will you do then without a third-party app?
And this is a problem because I also bought a N7 for my cousin, who doesn't have a phone or a camera, so when he tried to take pictures at the park he couldn't find any app to do it with.

The Play Store is still a mess. Apps lack categorization, and of course the whole thing with "This app is compatible with only these devices" can get a bit annoying.

Project Butter did make it smoother than what it used to be, but it's still a bit laggish here and there than iOS. These are just some things that really annoyed me about Android.

Don't get me wrong, N7 is a great device! And for $200 it's amazing! But it still lacks a lot of things, and I'm much happier with iOS and it's apps. They, IMO, work better and feel faster on iOS than Android.

As for UI changes, I really don't see how much Android UI has changed over the years. It has changed a lot from 1.0 to 2.3, but from there (And even that wasn't too big of a change. Does the iOS dock style count as change from 3GS to 4?), it's been the same ever since and I doubt it's gonna get a major change any time soon.
 
How much RAM do you think live tiles and live multitask windows take up? How much of that memory would take away from other aspects of the OS such as smoothness or memory for other applications? Each of those tiles is a running application. Ask yourself what real benefit are you getting on seeing what the live multitask windows give you versus icons for the application? Which trade off do you want?

What I find funny is that everyone tends to just think that the programmers at Apple sit around and don't have these ideas themselves. That they don't explore the options and don't implement it for reasons unknown to the readers of macrumors.

I'm not sure in Windows 8, but in Windows Phone 7, every live tile does NOT have to be a running application. When a user enables the app's live tile, the application registers itself with a cloud service. The cloud service can then push down updated text/images to the tile without the app running at all. And a single service on the phone controls all the live tiles.
 
Yes. I've had an iPhone 4 since its release and iOS has been amazing and still is amazing at doing what I need it to do on an hourly basis but I decided against an iPad because I don't want another iOS device. I am about to order an ASUS TF700 tablet and load it up with Jelly Bean instead :D
 
I have no use for change, just for the sake of change. Do you get bored with your hammer, "these sciccors never change". As long as it continues to function well, I can't see the "it's boring" argument.

This made me LOL, talk about Apples to oranges comparisons! Probably the most rediculous post i've seen lately. And WTH are sciccors?:rolleyes:
 
I was recently considering switching to Windows Phone 8 if iPhone 5 didn't impress me. I've been using my iPhone 4 for just under two years and I'm getting bored of iOS. But I thought further into it and realised that it would be too much of an effort to move away from iPhone. Losing the iPhone experience, losing FaceTime and iMessage, just didn't seem worth it. However, I am definitely going to have to buy a Windows Surface instead of an iPad. Then I can have my Windows 8 PC, Windows 8 Surface but also have an iPhone 5.
 
This made me LOL, talk about Apples to oranges comparisons! Probably the most rediculous post i've seen lately. And WTH are sciccors?:rolleyes:

sciccors are rediculous


The point is to some of us, the iPhone is a tool. Obviously to some it's a fashion statement. To me, it's a tool. :rolleyees:

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hahaha i know right. because hammers are entertainment and have interactive user interfaces.

Whoooosh.
 
I get a little tired of the "OS X is dumber" argument. The UI has evolved and yes, mobile and desktop are converging, but characterizing the whole OS as dumber just doesn't cut it. Different that 5 years ago, sure, but that's a good thing.

Interestingly, other posts on this thread keep telling me how brilliant the Surface and Windows 8 will be/is. In that argument, people tell me it's a great thing that a mobile style UI and desktop OS has converged. When it's done on the Mac side, it's like Apple has kicked people's puppy.

Agreed, completely! To me, it's quite the opposite. When an OS is easier, more efficient...and user friendly, these days it's considered 'dumb' or rather, "Made for dumb folk!'....to me, this is the single most JUVENILE observation/belief/cliché and overused load of BS. I'm just tired of this ridiculous load of crappage!!! When an OS/UI or ANY device that incorporates software and hardware the way Apple has done on the PC side, laptop, iPod, iPhone, iPad, and of course...iTunes (the single largest distributor of music today!)...to work as seamlessly as it does is HUGE! In a programming world (my degree is a double major in computer programming and computer engineering), this is THE Feat to conquer!!! Simple is HARD to do! It's the number one goal of Anyone's software conquest----Especially those building operating systems, the foundation of the entire device/workstation/or gadget discussed!!! Clunky interfaces are significantly easier to execute...and release early so your 'users' can be your 'beta' testers. This is NOT Apple. They release the refinements, when they're ready...both the engineers/programmers AND the software itself! It's the ONE thing that wears on me a bit with Android (I use both---GNote and iPhone 4s). Especially in the 'play store' where it's tough to decide with so many of the softwares available...which will be applicable to my device. I now (finally, after 6 months of owning it) have ICS. That helps with newer apps. BUT, some are for phones, not tablets (GNote in many cases is considered a 'tablet'). Including apps like Swift Key. Not a huge deal, but not well explained and can result in the download of redundant applications

I also find the 'lack' of specific, OEM or 'obvious' apps to be an inconvenience. WHen I first got my GNote, I had no idea how to set up texting/MMS...even my voice mail was a PITA!!! Not the case with iPhone. Visual voice mail, the mail app itself, where to find the camera (and process your photos), music app/music store (I know, I know...iTunes;))....it's ALL obvious! It's ALL there! As soon as you open the box. How these are looked down as 'dumbed-down' is so beyond me, I just do NOT get it!!! There just shows such a lack of computer knowledge and what makes them Great!!! We've come a world away from the early DOS programming I started with in the 80's to today's UI's on MS and Mac and Ubuntu, Linux, Unix, iOS, Android etc....However, they do NOT change drastically between revisions because the core itself is so deep---millions of lines of code...that to do so would be ridiculous!!! Why no refine what is already an excellent OS...and make it even easier to use? To get the OS out of the way and able the user to take advantage of said phone, tablet, laptop et al...to do the task THEY need to do? We all don't use photoshop, most of us aren't professional video editors, very VERY few are AutoCAD proficient or will EVER need to learn it's intricacies....HOWEVER---ALL of us need to check email, Facebook, watch a flick, enjoy a tune, surf the web, read a book/magazine, set an alarm, take a picture....etc. The list goes on...but to refer to iOS as 'dumb' just proves to me how 'Dumb' the 'referrer' actual is themselves...Especially when it comes to programming computers!

So you're saying that it's developers, not Apple, that have made the iPhone good?

Surely most of, if not all, those apps are available for Android?

Nope, NOPE, No WAY!!!! Again...I have both, and have had both for some time. Original Xoom owner. Bought the original Nexus...current GNote owner and I've also got a 4s. Just bought the Nexus 7 and it was delivered Saturday. I've yet to play extensively with it yet...however, I can tell you this...2 of the 5 apps I attempted to download in the first hour I played with it were 'not compatible with this device'

Second---I'm a big fan of both OS'es. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. But the ONE significant weakness with Android, IMHO is the eco-system/Go Store.

For example...and these challenges are mine and MINE alone. However, I'm sure others have noticed the same.

Music Apps---I pay my mortgage running and audio/video production company. Nothing in the way of music production; Korg, Moog, Garage Band, Animoog, Nano Studio, Filtatron, Beatwave, Beatmaker, SunVox, MultiTrack, Figure...the list goes on and on and on....however, other than Caustic, I've found nothing worth writing home about in the Android offerings.

Photography/Videography. Initially---I couldn't believe there wasn't an actual 'editor' that came with my phone. Try finding a decent editing program in the Android system...it's ridiculous!!! Between (for iOS) iPhoto, PS Express, Snapseed, Filterstorm, Photogene, Photo FX, Fluid FX, Adobe's idea suites...the effects like Cool FX, ColorSplash, Halftone, Simply HDR, Pano360 (?), incredible photography tools for sun angles, photographic calculators, DSLR Remote--for video, WOW!!! iMovie, Avid, ReelDirecor, SyncSlate and old 8mm effect programs, ....as well, excellent ways to send/receive/transfer video.

The program DJay, on my iMacs, laptops, iPads and iPhones is a God Send! When Traktor or Serato aren't necessary, this is an exceptional program. From wedding ceremonies and background/cocktail music....it's over the top.

Android's Go Store is severely lacking in these 'creative' categories.

I'm not much of a gamer, but if I do...I dig simulator (planes and trains) and dungeon crawlers (Diablo). I'm old. 41:) So I don't have the time with family, my business, and daily needs to be playing games. I find the options on iOS to be significantly more available...for whatever your genre is that you enjoy!

That said, My GNote is one of my favorites!!! however, it's relegated to specific business tasks and contracts, etc. Netflix once in a while and some media.

Now that you say it, I totally agree with you. One thing I hope to see is tablet being capable of working more like a computer. More performance for your money I suppose. Microsoft seems to understand this and moving in that direction with their Window 8 tablet. Kudos to Microsoft for pushing on the innovation front.

Really? Have you seen a 'Surface' yet? I remember how excited folks were when the Netbook fan came (and went). These were hardly sufficient for Windows and Office...or even, for that matter....checking email. They were worthless. The Surface Pro, with it's core iX processing, flash memory, reasonable amount of memory....it should be pretty awesome! Albeit, they'll HAVE to charge for it! Probably the same realm of MacBook Airs. Now, I'm not sure about you, but I don't think we're there yet with tablets being major productivity devices. For long spreadsheets, extensively written or edition of documents, even video/photo processing...it's kinda tough on the smaller screen and keyboard. YMMV....but I still find the need for both. My MBA and my iPad. I'm not sure I ever really want to separate the two. I like my iPad for different, and more personal/pleasure reasons. My laptop...I use it do do stuff. Not sure if that makes sense:)

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Whats even funnier is that you seem to have completely missed the entire point that numerous people here have made. We know Apple is capable of doing amazing things and that Apple Labs is probably filled to the brim with stuff that could put Apple another 5yrs ahead. The problem is we are seeing all the risks and creative ideas on the competing platforms while Apple continues to "play it safe". So it's hard to call someone a leader when they refuse to take risks.

I think you may be missing the point...'playing it safe' vs. 'playing it smart'. Apple releases products, tweaks, updates, etc when it's Ready to be released. Other than Siri, which Apple released it under the guise that it was still in 'beta'....and for ME, it's been a revelation! I use it often, and the translation implemented in my new iPad is certainly more accurate than the translation on my GNote.

However...one area Google has Apple by a significant margin IS Navigation! I'm truly hoping that Apple, with it's purchases of the different mapping companies, releases a really cool 'Map Update' with iOS6.

Just some opinions.

J
 
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iOS has been the same since 2007. Unless there is drastic improvement in hardware on the next gen iPad, upgrading will be a lot less exciting. Android 4.1 (jellybean) looks like a breath of fresh air on the nexus 7, especially with project butter making the OS more responsive than the previous versions of android, which IMO made android a horrible experience. Anybody else feeling less enthusiastic about upgrading to the newest iPad next year knowing that not much has changed in ios 6?

What sort of changes are you looking for? It's like I own a ferarri but am bored to death with it so I buy a honda for kicks. Do you realize how fortunate you are to have an idevice esp an ipad? Think back a few years when all you can use was windows pc tablets.

As for UI changes, perhaps you don't like simplicity. I come from an android device and let me tell you it gets old fast switching widgets here and there, getting new rom, tinkering with the dumbest things so that I can get the placebo effect of the device running faster.

Enjoy what is available now - the UI is perfectly fine as it is.
 
What sort of changes are you looking for? It's like I own a ferarri but am bored to death with it so I buy a honda for kicks. Do you realize how fortunate you are to have an idevice esp an ipad? Think back a few years when all you can use was windows pc tablets.

As for UI changes, perhaps you don't like simplicity. I come from an android device and let me tell you it gets old fast switching widgets here and there, getting new rom, tinkering with the dumbest things so that I can get the placebo effect of the device running faster.

Enjoy what is available now - the UI is perfectly fine as it is.

9.7" screen with just stack of icons isn't the best way to utilize the screen space, I'm sure Apple can come up with something better than that:rolleyes:
 
I for one grow weary of the constant revisions for nothing other than iCandy. These visual enhancements are so fraternity "bros" can brag they just bought the latest iPad. Don't get me wrong I dig the new retna display, but I am perfectly happy with my iPad1. I will of course get screwed when ios6 comes out, but that just the way apple operates: planned obsolescence.

Well, what did you expect?

At least it's better than Android. Be happy you got two years of updates rather than two months.

And they also do that because the hardware can't handle it. I updated my 3rd Gen iPod touch to 4.0 and it was slow as anything. I absolutely regretted it.
 
9.7" screen with just stack of icons isn't the best way to utilize the screen space, I'm sure Apple can come up with something better than that:rolleyes:

Sometimes, less is more. It's like asking why Apple stores have so much empty space and just 3 laptops on a wide, open table. Surely there's a more efficient way of utilising all that extra space for something else?

Sure, Apple could cram the ipad's screen chock full of information from widgets, weather notifications and other stuff from a dozen different sources, but for me, that would be info overload, and drains batt unnecessarily.
 
Wow I forgot I joined this forum years ago when I came across this post lol...

I have to agree with the OP. I have been trying to convince myself to stick with iOS when the 5 comes out, but it seems to be a losing battle.
Almost everyone at my office has or has switched over to Android and I find myself feeling jealous. I have only messed around with a couple of them running jelly bean and wow. I used to think android was a mess, but things sure have changed. Another thing I have noticed is while I need to keep my iphone plugged in at my desk all day, those with the newer androids dont seem to worry about their battery. Then there is their app market, its not what I had heard or thought it was like. It is easily on par with what we have now on Apples market.
Anyway I think I will be picking up the S3 that I have had some time to try out. Its just a nicer phone imo and the screen is beautiful on it. Finally a screen where black is actually BLACK.
You may not like what I have to say or think here, but I think I have been fair enough in giving Apple plenty of time to come up with something new.
I have been a Apple user since I purchase my first Powerbook G4, then the first iphone up to my current 4s.
Oh and dont get me started on the direction OSX has chosen...
 
Wow I forgot I joined this forum years ago when I came across this post lol...

I have to agree with the OP. I have been trying to convince myself to stick with iOS when the 5 comes out, but it seems to be a losing battle.
Almost everyone at my office has or has switched over to Android and I find myself feeling jealous. I have only messed around with a couple of them running jelly bean and wow. I used to think android was a mess, but things sure have changed. Another thing I have noticed is while I need to keep my iphone plugged in at my desk all day, those with the newer androids dont seem to worry about their battery. Then there is their app market, its not what I had heard or thought it was like. It is easily on par with what we have now on Apples market.
Anyway I think I will be picking up the S3 that I have had some time to try out. Its just a nicer phone imo and the screen is beautiful on it. Finally a screen where black is actually BLACK.
You may not like what I have to say or think here, but I think I have been fair enough in giving Apple plenty of time to come up with something new.
I have been a Apple user since I purchase my first Powerbook G4, then the first iphone up to my current 4s.
Oh and dont get me started on the direction OSX has chosen...

I agree about screen in s3 being great. But to say the play store is in the same level as appstore is just plain rubbish.
 
Apple should just update the icons and call it a day.

Its one thing to be boring its another that some look outdated and ugly.

Because Apple is never going to go widgety Android can we at least have some new icons? (and a weather icon that doesn't say 73 degress).

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I agree about screen in s3 being great. But to say the play store is in the same level as appstore is just plain rubbish.

To a certain extend. I frequently check Play Store and App Store and App Store is just WAY easier to search for content (EVERYTHING).

That being said Play Store is improving a lot especially as Apps that previously were iOS exclusive (Instagram, Flipboard, etc.)

http://www.valuewalk.com/2012/08/apple-inc-aapl-app-store-faces-rising-competition-from-google-play/

Also for many well known Apps, Android always seems to have a better UI design. Take Evernote for iPad vs it for an android tablet, Android tablet looks a lot better with more features.
 
Apple should just update the icons and call it a day.

Its one thing to be boring its another that some look outdated and ugly.

Because Apple is never going to go widgety Android can we at least have some new icons? (and a weather icon that doesn't say 73 degress).

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To a certain extend. I frequently check Play Store and App Store and App Store is just WAY easier to search for content (EVERYTHING).

That being said Play Store is improving a lot especially as Apps that previously were iOS exclusive (Instagram, Flipboard, etc.)

http://www.valuewalk.com/2012/08/apple-inc-aapl-app-store-faces-rising-competition-from-google-play/

Also for many well known Apps, Android always seems to have a better UI design. Take Evernote for iPad vs it for an android tablet, Android tablet looks a lot better with more features.

I agree on apps start appearing on the playstore too. Like instagram and flipboard. I installed instagram on my galaxy nexus, i feel the ios is much joy to use eventhough it's the same app. I can't explain it why, it's just the feeling that it's more pleasure to use the ios version.
 
Meh, not really.

I had my android phase, didn't like it. Came back to apple ecosystem.
 
If it ain't broke...

I dont personally see a reason for change, since this format has worked for so long before. if you really want it changed, get your i phone or ipad jailbroken. If you feel that the inovation on android is what gets you excited,then get a android device. Like i tell everybody, use what works for you. Mac and ios works for me.
 
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