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Selling my 2017 15" RMBP for the 2018 upgrade.

I wanted 32GB ram.

The specs bump is also nice, too.

Will probably buy next year's model too!

I have a 15" 2017 model and am very happy with it. This may be a naive question, but what will 32GB ram. do for you? I'm not a power user, but my computer is very fast. How fast can it get? Also, don't you need to pay $400 extra for the added 16GB ram?
 
I have a 15" 2017 model and am very happy with it. This may be a naive question, but what will 32GB ram. do for you? I'm not a power user, but my computer is very fast. How fast can it get? Also, don't you need to pay $400 extra for the added 16GB ram?

Won't speak for anyone else, but as a developer, I often need to have VMs open (often multiple) -- large databases, development environment, emulators, etc. 32GB of RAM is fantastic for keeping everything running nice and smooth.
 
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I'd love to get a 2018 MBP, however since I have the 2016 model I'll probably wait till 2019 or 2020 when this one is 3 or 4 years old and there is a GPU improvement available before upgrading.
 
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this forum seems mostly threads of supreme disappointment, and I don't fault people in many ways

but I still do love my 13 nTB 2016

just wondering where people are at with this release. if anyone is pumped about 8th gen, quad-core 13 or 6-core 15?

it is a nice bump. I just wish they did more than, again, pretty much an Intel drop in

and True Tone will be great and I'm a little jealous but my screen is great and sad that its been on iPads for 2 years now and just now coming to Macs.
I am definitely. The 15” highest end/ maxed out custom configuration is my MacBook Pro dream, which will materialize when it comes next week. Kudos to Apple to make my dream come true.
 
I have the 2017 13 inch macbook pro(256GB ssd) not sure if I should upgrade or not..I dont have the touch bar but have always thought it was really neat..I paid 1159 for it from best buy last year during a sale..now that same macbook is worth 739 at best buy trade in..not sure if I should just wait because seems kind of silly to spend another 1,000 on a macbook that I havent even had for a year yet.maybe try craigslist or something or is it even worth the upgrade?
 
I have the 2017 13 inch macbook pro(256GB ssd) not sure if I should upgrade or not..I dont have the touch bar but have always thought it was really neat..I paid 1159 for it from best buy last year during a sale..now that same macbook is worth 739 at best buy trade in..not sure if I should just wait because seems kind of silly to spend another 1,000 on a macbook that I havent even had for a year yet.maybe try craigslist or something or is it even worth the upgrade?

Not going to lie, I'm pretty much in the same boat. I bought the 2017 nTB model when it was released, and while it's been a nice machine, I can't help but feel a little envy with these 2018 MBPs. If I can sell my current one for a high enough price, I may just upgrade and call it a day. The only question for me is whether or not I wanna deal with that hassle, haha.

Decisions, decisions. :p
 
It's exciting. Scary too. Going to take the plunge though. Thought they were available yesterday when I saw the announcement. Now I see people are waiting. Will probably go 15" i9, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD w/Applecare. $6K? Well, maybe skip the i9, as it seems a lot of people are saying it is going to overheat....
 
After mulling over it for a day or so, I decided to take the plunge and upgrade. I will be ordering the i9 with 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD, a config that I hope will last me many years.

Yes, despite a few minor gripes I am excited to get it, and why shouldn't I be? This upgrade was one of the most solid ever, and undoubtedly the biggest performance leap in the last 6-7 years, very well worth the wait. With the jump to 4 and 6-core CPUs, the RAM bump and the keyboard revision, the 2018 model addressed many lingering issues and delivered a performant, up-to-date professional machine.

TouchBar, ports and overall form factor are still the same, yes, but a redesign was not in the cards anyway.

The only letdown was the shoddy Polaris GPU rebranding, but I have come to expect very little from the MBP in terms of graphics card performance, so yeah, bummer but it won't hold me back from upgrading. The GPU isn't a selling point of a Mac for me, since AMD cards can't use CUDA acceleration in any case.
 
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I've had (2) 2016 MBPt 15' and (1) 2017 MBPt 15' and they've all had major issues.

#1 - 2016 MBPt 15" 2.7ghz/512GB purchased on 11/17/2016 was taken to the Apple store on 12/30/2016 for service. They determined that the logic board had gone and refunded my purchase price. This was just outside of the return period. The issues were an occasional "pop" noise that turned into an often explosive "pop" or "crack" sound. They keys on the keyboard would not always function or wouldn't function. The USB-C ports would randomly eject the power cord of USB dongles. The noises and ejecting of the USB-C cords would occur on a desk so the computer was not being moved. The touchpad would not work in certain locations.

#2 - 2016 MBPt 15" 2.7ghz/512GB was purchased on 12/30/2016 when I returned the one above. All was well for 5 months and then all of the same issues with #1 started to occur. This time it wasn't gradual but all of a sudden and the symptoms were much worse. This computer was taken to the Apple store on 07/25/2017 and the issues were replicated and the computer was sent to Apple for repair. The tech noted that the computer showed no signs of damage and was in flawless condition! Apple returned the computer with a new logic board and processor and replaced the display assembly.

#3 - 2017 MBPt 15" 3.1ghz/1TB/RP 560 4 GB was purchased on 07/12/2017 in anticipation of sending back #2 and then selling it on Craigslist. All of the same problems with computers #1 & #2 occurred with this computer and it was taken to the Apple Store on 11/14/2017 and the tech was able to replicate the issues. He also noted that there was no damage to the computer and it was in flawless like new condition. The computer was sent off to Apple for repair and returned says that the display assembly was replaced due to a built in audio device problem and the top case with battery was also replaced due to specific keys not working. Here I sit on 07/13/2018 and the computer needs to go back to Apple. The noise has returned; the touchpad is starting to not work in locations and the USB-C plugs have been acting up since Apple returned it to me the first time. Two new issues are that the display all of a sudden got dimmer and cannot be turned back up to it's original level and occasionally I will be using it and the whole tone and color gamut of the display will suddenly change. For the haters, I keep the "Automatically adjust brightness" and Night Shift turned off. I've reset the SMC, NVRAM/PRAM and repaired permissions with no luck in these issues changing.

Apple is an arrogant company who's favorite tactic is to deny-deny-deny. Unfortunately I'm stuck in the Apple ecosystem as I own a 2017 iMac 27" 4.2ghz; iPhone X 256GB and iPad Air 2. I don't trust my MBPt so I guess I will loose some more money and buy a 2018 version and sell the old one. My hope is that with so much moving off the logic board to the T2 chip that a lot of the design issues will be gone and that hopefully the new keyboard will be an improvement? I had issue with the keyboard on my MBPr even though I weekly blew it out with compressed air. There were times I had to take the keys off and disassemble the hinge system and then reassemble it.


i didnot read the whole post...but if you feel like apple is arrogant to you, just dont buy their products. sometimes it just dont work. I too have opinion as "arrogant" on some of the most trusted companies..what can we do. just give your business to someone.
 
My biggest gripe with the new models is pricing and the GPU on the 15" models. I really thought they'd bring them back down to rMBP pricing tiers and drop the old non touch bar models. Unfortunately they dropped the non touch bar models and didn't adjust the pricing... The GPU being lackluster is a bit more down to AMD than apple on this one though.
 
Just ordered the 2018 15" MBP w/ 2.6GHz 6-core i7, Radeon Pro 560X, 32 GB DDR4 RAM, and 512GB SSD as a windows desktop replacement. Feel this was a solid update and one that allowed me to finally move to the MBP as my main machine. Will be used for Graphic design 2D/3D and everyday use, so yes excited for this update.
 
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I was excited, I thought the upgrade was decent and the price were, kind of OK considering the huge upgrade in performance.

Then I check out the PC Notebook market. Turns out Dell are selling an XPS 15 , CNC aluminium casing, same CPU, similar performance GPU ( Nvidia 1050Ti 4GB vs AMD 550X 4GB ), 16GB Memory, 256GB SSD. Dell has a better 4K, Screen. While MacBook Pro has 1300 Mbps WiFi compared to 866 Mbps for Dell, 2.8GB/s vs 0.4GB/s faster SSD, for $1899.

That is $500 difference. And if you get the 2K Screen instead, it is $1499. $900 cheaper then the new MBP.

Apple used to only cost $200 to $300 more in their price range, or 15 - 20% more. After they had Touch Bar it is getting a little hard to swallow the price difference.
 
I have a 2016 15" config that's maxed out. Seriously considering replacing it with a 13" as having a Quad Core Processor at 1.3KG is a dream.

Plus True Tone on the LG 27" 5K display that I already have...
 
I’m now seriously tempted. Going to hold out for some early reviews/feedback on the keyboard. Still a little disappointed with UK pricing but education discount should cancel that out.
 
Super tempted because of the 32GB option. However I have a 2017 MBP 15TB already.. I'll wait a when the price drops or refurb store has 32GB listed. I don't need the power but it is nice to have.
 
Not going to lie, I'm pretty much in the same boat. I bought the 2017 nTB model when it was released, and while it's been a nice machine, I can't help but feel a little envy with these 2018 MBPs. If I can sell my current one for a high enough price, I may just upgrade and call it a day. The only question for me is whether or not I wanna deal with that hassle, haha.

Decisions, decisions. :p

I could try selling it on craigslist but the issue I have is, lets say I put it up for 1100 bucks..how can I be sure the money I receive is not counterfeit, I know silly question but heck in this day and age cant be too careful. Ive sold iPads before but those were for peanuts compared to this..will just post it on craigslist and see what happens, at least to see if anyone even wants it for that price. I assume this is the upgrade that Ming was talking about a few days ago but was expecting it for October..best buy trade in value for my Mac is 739 which honestly is kind of pathetic considering I paid 1150 for it(Actually received it in January of this year, the first one I got was defective so I had 45 days to exchange it for another one which I did) if apple or best buy had some kind of extra trade in incentive to get the new one Id buy it right now but even with the student discount of 150 bucks and the sales tax here in California its really too expensive
 
Insane that it took 7 years of waiting to get from 16GB to 32GB RAM in a MBP..
2011 was also the last time the MBP received any meaningful jump in CPU performance YoY.

All in all, the greatest value for money machine in almost a decade from Apple.

I want one :)
 
https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/12/...-touchbar-2018-intel-processor-siri-true-tone

That’s all for the good, but it’s not what people are worried about. Instead, it’s just hard to trust a keyboard after so many reports that it can be rendered inoperable by a grain of sand and that is incredibly difficult and expensive to repair or replace. This new third-generation keyboard wasn’t designed to solve those issues, Apple says. In fact, company representatives strenuously insisted that the keyboard issues have only affected a tiny, tiny fraction of its user base. (There’s now a four-year repair program for the keyboard in case it fails.)
 
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If you are looking at Non Touch Bar, they didnt change those, the changes went to the Touch Bar version. Quad Core, keyboard, and Hey Siri are the biggest changes. I for one have been REALLY looking forward to a quad Core 13 inch for years, so I am one of the ones excited for this.

Wait so the 13" Non touchbar still has the old keyboard????
 
I would be purchasing it asap if they updated the non touchbar models. Now I'm not sure what to do
 
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