it does make one wonder what is to come of non touch bar 13"
I think it might become MacBook, like how unibody macbook's became MacBook Pro but obviously reversed
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Is anyone excited to get a 2018 MBP?
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it does make one wonder what is to come of non touch bar 13"
I think it might become MacBook, like how unibody macbook's became MacBook Pro but obviously reversed
nah, if all goes well I hope I don't upgrade my Mac (2016 nTB) until its out of warranty and not covered by the extended keyboard warranty (a 4th year on that one) which is end of 2019 for AC and 2020 for keyboard.
I used to upgrade Macs somewhat feverishly but over the years found it less necessary and I enjoy riding out a machine for a while if possible
I did leap from 2015 12" MB to this machine tho, 1st gen to 1st gen
No OLED displays are what's keeping me from not spending current prices on these (I got a 2017 refurb 15-inch instead). I tell you, if you're used to seeing deep blacks on an OLED TV like I am, you won't want to go back.
CPU performance upgrades and all are great for the 2018's, but to me, the package is not complete unless complimented by a modern screen.
CPU performance upgrades and all are great for the 2018's, but to me, the package is not complete unless complimented by a modern screen.
what about iphones ? you gonna jump on XI ? or stay put with X ?nah, if all goes well I hope I don't upgrade my Mac (2016 nTB) until its out of warranty and not covered by the extended keyboard warranty (a 4th year on that one) which is end of 2019 for AC and 2020 for keyboard.
I used to upgrade Macs somewhat feverishly but over the years found it less necessary and I enjoy riding out a machine for a while if possible
I did leap from 2015 12" MB to this machine tho, 1st gen to 1st gen
I'd be curious how OLED on a laptop would perform. Wouldn't burn-in kill it for anybody who edits on their computer?
Long-awaited and surprised upgrade for MBP with the 8th-gen CPU. When seeing 32GB on-board memory is configurable, I undoubtedly decide to go for MBP 15” 32GB/512G/560X gpu. However, I’m wondering if i7 2.6GHz is worth of upgrading or not..(seems there’s no significant difference on performance between these two CPU.) Hope to get some advices.. Thanks!
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Noone seems to produce OLED panels for laptops anymore... model after model has disappeared and there were only a few to begin with.
too expensive and they use too much power, because there are usually alot of bright/white areas when doing work related stuff.
I hate the current macbook pro. Lack of physical function keys. Crappy keyboard. Huge trackpad. All the missing ports.
I was really hoping apple would atleast release a non-TB 15 inch. But it does not look like this will ever happen.
It is either osx or linux for me, and linux is still not good on the laptop for everything I want to do. I ran Gentoo Linux on my first mac (iBook 2006).
I will be getting the 2018 macbook pro but also a Linux laptop to slowly make the switch.
I was really hoping apple would atleast release a non-TB 15 inch. But it does not look like this will ever happen.
It is either osx or linux for me, and linux is still not good on the laptop for everything I want to do. I ran Gentoo Linux on my first mac (iBook 2006).
I will be getting the 2018 macbook pro but also a Linux laptop to slowly make the switch.
Not sure what your use case is, but I think this 2.2 → 2.6 GHz upgrade has minimal performance effect for most people. What you already have upgraded has way larger effect.
I'm used to OLEDs on phones, and can take or leave them.
But actually an OLED is the last thing I want on my laptop: OLEDs degrade with use, losing brightness, colours shifting due to different colours aging at different rates, which in extreme cases results in the so-called "burn in" (really "burn out"). This is all tolerable on a phone, but I keep laptops longer than phones and with more than double the screen usage most days, usually at higher brightness. And a laptop screen has many more static elements than my phone setups do, which is worse for burn-in. So while it might work for people who use the laptop lightly and for whom watching videos is a major part of what they do with it, for me it would be a serious disincentive, probably a deal-breaker.
[doublepost=1531648060][/doublepost]On the original question, I don't know about "excited" but I need more RAM and more storage, and while my battery is still usable I definitely look for power sockets in meetings and auditoria in a way I didn't 5 years ago. So I'm mainly relieved that the 2018 models have been released, because that means I don't have to keep waiting and can upgrade when it's convenient.
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I remember back in the days when each MHz update was a huge upgrade the the performance of the CPU, not so anymore. The 2.2 is very fast, and it may run a tad cooler as well.
With a jailbreak already on relatively stable firmware (ymmv, but 11.3.1 is for me) and the high price point of X , inclined to stay put this year too. But don’t quote me haha
If iOS 12 ever gets a jb my x should feel like a new phone yet again
Still I value jb over an S cycle stock generally speaking by far
the 13" smokes all the recent rmbp, if you don't need a beefier gpu, then it's all good. I took the highest gpu in my 2013 but never really used it (and never played games on it).
http://browser.geekbench.com/macs/433
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well there is a 500$ difference because you didn't take the 400$ 4k screen. So you're comparing an inferior display, inferior colorspace, no truetone, nose cam, inferior speakers, inferior ssd, no hardware disk encryption and not including the fact that you have to rebuy your softwares?
I fully agree the XPS is cheaper, but there is still an explanation why the Macbook is more expensive. It also have a higher resale value than any XPS will have.
I was shopping for a non-Apple myself, so I'm not a fanboy in any way. I was personally looking at the Lenovo t580 (4k,32gb,ssd) or t480 (2k,32gb,ssd). The dimms use sockets and every parts are replaceables.
I really think it's a great year to buy one. It's way faster than previous generation but I ordered a thinkpad on friday.
I got a Thinkpad t580 (15") with dual batteries, 4k matte,32gb,mx150 2gb+ extended,ssd,+ warranty for damage for 1891$CDN+tx (including a laptop bag). I like the fact that I can change the battery easily (can even hot swap the battery live). It has socketed dimms and I can add an additional m2 drive and can be easily repaired.
I'm super excited to get a 13" i7. I've been working on an early 2015 MacBook Pro and it's been struggling while connected to a 4K screen (at 60 Hz over Display Port) during development work. I remember getting it at work; it was a newer model than the one I previously had but the old one was a quad-core and it felt noticeably slower in many areas. It'll be good to go back to the quad-core world.
I would say 32GB ram and some extra storage is the only thing worth spending money on.
If you still want to spend some extra money:
The Blackmagic eGPU ($699) gives a lot more bang for the buck (+100-300% performance) compared upgrading the CPU and GPU ($500) for ≈10-20% extra performance.
I'm in deseprate need to upgrade my computer hardware...so this new update is pretty appealing. I'm currently running:
- iMac 2006 (first Intel model) with 2GB RAM and stuck on Snow Leopard. This thing is slow to even browse and YouTube barely works! It's so old I haven't even switched it on in months. Whenever I get my next machine, I think I'm gonna get this recycled or something. It's a dinosaur in computing years.
- MacBook Air 11" from 2011 running Sierra. 1.8GHz Intel i7, 4GB RAM, 256GB SSD. This is fine for light browsing and word processing (or light Excel work), but have a few too many tabs open or (God forbid) a YouTube video, and the machine gets very hot and the fan goes off really loud and spends ages running.
I think this was the highest specced 11" when I bought it, and part of me regrets not getting the MBP 12" at the time, as I was upgrading from a 7 year old 12" PowerBook. The PowerBook lasted me 7 years, and this MBA 11" has lasted me 7 years now, so I feel like it's a nice time to upgrade.
The only things I'm not a fan of for the 2016 onwards MB Pros are the butterfly keyboard (I like the key travel of my MBA) and the touch bar. The touch bar I think can get used to, but part of me is wondering about the keyboard. The few times I've tried it in-store hasn't felt great. The issue is, this is where all the notebooks have been going, so I've just got to deal with it I guess. This is what I'm considering at the moment:
1. Get the 2018 13" MB Pro - pretty maxed out: 16GB RAM, i7 at either 512GB or 1TB. This should surely last me another 7 years and I'll need to get used to the touch bar and the keyboard. I'd have considered the non touch bar models, but the move from dual core to quad core and all the stories about the massive performance boost between last and this year's models are too much to ignore. Especially the stories which are saying the maxed out 13" is on par or better than last year's 15" model.
2. Hold out another year with the 11" MBA from 2011 and get next year's new machine, or wait to find out about the other notebook updates (hopefully) within this year
3. Consider the highest specced 12" Macbook - it'll be a nice compact size like my MBA. The only thing is, I don't know if it's actually more powerful than my current MBA. Can anyone advise? I can get it with a 1.8GHz dual core Intel i7 and 16GB RAM. My MBA 11" is 1.8GHz Intel i7. I think this machine is fanless, which is a plus...I hate the noise my MBA makes. It's £1,864 for a maxed out machine though, which is pretty high. If I get the 13" MBP with maxed out processor, 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD, it's £2,399 which is a difference of £535 for a much more powerful machine.
4. Get the upcoming Surface Go (higher spec 8GB model) and then pick up a new Mac next year. I use Windows at work and OSX at home so I think I'd be fine with a small Windows machine. Also less spend in the meantime.
Any thoughts/advice/recommendations? Thanks.
- iMac 2006 (first Intel model) with 2GB RAM and stuck on Snow Leopard. This thing is slow to even browse and YouTube barely works! It's so old I haven't even switched it on in months. Whenever I get my next machine, I think I'm gonna get this recycled or something. It's a dinosaur in computing years.
- MacBook Air 11" from 2011 running Sierra. 1.8GHz Intel i7, 4GB RAM, 256GB SSD. This is fine for light browsing and word processing (or light Excel work), but have a few too many tabs open or (God forbid) a YouTube video, and the machine gets very hot and the fan goes off really loud and spends ages running.
I think this was the highest specced 11" when I bought it, and part of me regrets not getting the MBP 12" at the time, as I was upgrading from a 7 year old 12" PowerBook. The PowerBook lasted me 7 years, and this MBA 11" has lasted me 7 years now, so I feel like it's a nice time to upgrade.
The only things I'm not a fan of for the 2016 onwards MB Pros are the butterfly keyboard (I like the key travel of my MBA) and the touch bar. The touch bar I think can get used to, but part of me is wondering about the keyboard. The few times I've tried it in-store hasn't felt great. The issue is, this is where all the notebooks have been going, so I've just got to deal with it I guess. This is what I'm considering at the moment:
1. Get the 2018 13" MB Pro - pretty maxed out: 16GB RAM, i7 at either 512GB or 1TB. This should surely last me another 7 years and I'll need to get used to the touch bar and the keyboard. I'd have considered the non touch bar models, but the move from dual core to quad core and all the stories about the massive performance boost between last and this year's models are too much to ignore. Especially the stories which are saying the maxed out 13" is on par or better than last year's 15" model.
2. Hold out another year with the 11" MBA from 2011 and get next year's new machine, or wait to find out about the other notebook updates (hopefully) within this year
3. Consider the highest specced 12" Macbook - it'll be a nice compact size like my MBA. The only thing is, I don't know if it's actually more powerful than my current MBA. Can anyone advise? I can get it with a 1.8GHz dual core Intel i7 and 16GB RAM. My MBA 11" is 1.8GHz Intel i7. I think this machine is fanless, which is a plus...I hate the noise my MBA makes. It's £1,864 for a maxed out machine though, which is pretty high. If I get the 13" MBP with maxed out processor, 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD, it's £2,399 which is a difference of £535 for a much more powerful machine.
4. Get the upcoming Surface Go (higher spec 8GB model) and then pick up a new Mac next year. I use Windows at work and OSX at home so I think I'd be fine with a small Windows machine. Also less spend in the meantime.
Any thoughts/advice/recommendations? Thanks.
It's not that hard to use an external card reader. If needing to have an external card reader is enough to prevent you from buying one, you probably don't need to buy one anyway.
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Uh, I'll let someone else cite things like Geekbench scores, but I do believe the answer to that is a resounding, "Hell Yeah!"
If your frame of reference for performance right now is a 2011 MBA and a 2006 iMac, anything that's a MacBook and up is going to run rings around your old machines. Even the current MBA, as outdated as it is, will probably smoke your old hardware.
As for the keyboard, they're very tricky to evaluate in store. They're so vastly different from anything else that came before it that you really don't know if you'll like them until you've used them for a month because you need to adapt to them first. I'm a mechanical keyboard enthusiast and I detested the butterfly switches, but the more I used them, the less I hated them. I actually quite like them now. They're still not my favorite switch, but I like it more than a lot of other laptop keyboards.
Failing that, you can always just get an external keyboard. In fact, that might be a good idea regardless purely for reasons of better ergonomics when you're at a desk.
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Thanks very much, good to know the the current MacBook should be a significant improvement. I just have to decide if it's worth saving £535 for, or to spend that an get a much more powerful machine. I'd have considered the 13" MBA, but I feel like it's an end of life machine even though it's still be sold. Plus it's probably bigger than I'd like it to be. I like the size of my MBA 11" and the new Pro/current MB aren't much different in size.
I'll wait to see the reviews on the Pro over the next week or two.
Yeah, I'd hesitate to put money in a MBA myself even though there are people who will likely line up to snap up any remaining MBA models the second Apple indicates that the line is to be discontinued.
Personally, I find a retina screen to be so much more easy on the eyes. I stare at the screen for awfully long hours. My eyes used to scream in pain by the end of the day. That hardly ever happens ever since I upgraded to a 2016 MBP and a 5K monitor.
Given how old both my computers are, i've been using non retina screens for years and am fine with them. I just want to get something that'll ideally last the 7 years that both my PowerBook and MBA 11" have.