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Is Mac OS X Panther 7B85 Gold Master?

I honestly hope that this version isn't GM, because there is still a glaring bug, literally.

If you have a RAGE 128 chipset, it tries to run Quartz Extreme regardless. This chipset cannot do values that aren't a power of two.

Basically, after the boot screen, every single window, object, EVERYTHING is a white box. yay.

Submitted the bug report to apple, but they still haven't fixed it. Better not be GM, or else I won't be able to run it on my precious iBook.
 
The Babel Fish version of the German Web page begins: "This cat will heat the dogs completely beautifully." Probably lost something in the translation. :)
 
Originally posted by Roller
The Babel Fish version of the German Web page begins: "This cat will heat the dogs completely beautifully." Probably lost something in the translation. :)
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This translation made me curious. But I can't find anything like it on www.apple.com/de/macosx/panther...

I would translate the first bit of that text as "Panther is getting ready to jump: before the end of the year will the new version of Apple's beloved operating system conquer the market, a version you shouldn't miss out on."

Well, I'm Dutch, I'm not a native speaker of German, but it is nowhere near heating up dogs. Maybe another page?

M.
 
Panther Countdown

I'm sure we'll hear from someone who posts here the moment someone receives a machine that has Panther on it--that will be the day when my 15" PB order heads off to Apple...
 
Not to gloat but...

As an ADC member, I can't get a newer build than 7B74, which I think is a little silly...

...but I can live with it, considering that I just bought a CTO dual G5, with developer discount, and it will ship "on or before 10/16/03."

Granted, the "privilege" is not cheap. (But the "free" software and the discounts make up for it.)
 
Panther perfect

Just realize that there will be at some point a 10.3.1, 10.3.2, etc.

I believe the boxed version is always the 10.x.0 release and never updated with point releases? If so, then waiting to buy until a stable point release comes out is pointless. Waiting to install until then is valid.
 
I hope apple gets panther out sooner than the 24th... i mean, really. Ive waited long enough. Soon i'm going to just download it and install that way.
 
Originally posted by DeusOmnis
I hope apple gets panther out sooner than the 24th... i mean, really. Ive waited long enough. Soon i'm going to just download it and install that way.
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If it hoses your machine, don't go complaining about the Apple boards how it hosed your machine since it is YOUR fault you are using a downloaded version that has no guarantee it is the actual release version. It is time pirates learned to act responsibly. Backup all data on your hard drive to another so you don't have the pain of recovery if it does hose your machine. And hope the download you have doesn't act upon the firmware, because that would require a motherboard replacement if it did. You never know, Apple could combat piracy that way. Not only that, Apple did make an earlier build which said in the readme that the actual release version of Panther won't install over it. There is no guarantee the download you get will. The final builds may all have the same build number, so you won't be able to tell them apart if you do download it. You'll have to rely on the trustworthyness of the person you download it form.
 
I have multiple macs. so having panther which is designated for my new computer would do me little good. I just assume buy it, and be able to put it on all my macs.

That is of course i am wrong about not being able to load software designated for one system onto another.
 
I just assume buy it, and be able to put it on all my macs.
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No. While it will in all likelihood be technically possible (Apple's OSs seem to have no copy protection/keys), that's not how the license is sold. (i.e. it's shady, if not illegal).

Jaguar was released in a 'family pack' for $199 IIRC, which legally allowed you to install it on 5 computers IN THE SAME HOUSEHOLD. Great deal, if you ask me.

Who knows, but I'd be willing to bet Apple does the same thing for Panther.
 
Originally posted by iHack
People who don't like posts that are not really on topic, please skip this one... ;)

If you want to save money and want the same (probably better...) performance, try FreeBSD on the intel/AMD platform. Panther's Darwin is in sync with version 4.8, giving you great interoperability. You don't even have to be much of a geek to install it - well, you do have to edit some text files for apache, samba, netatalk (AFP server), etc, but this is all quite well documented in the files themselves (if-you-want-to-share-the-such-n-such-directory-remove-the-#-in-front-of-the-following-lines style). Takes you a day or two to figure it out, but will leave you with a great, dirt-cheap server. I have a lightning fast, headless PIV 2.4 GHz, 512 MB, 120 GB server up and running for about € 400 (this translates to roughly $400).
Hey, if you want a good and cheap (read: open source) mail server, you'll spend a day or two on that alone, on a Mac. At least I did, until I decided to invest in a BSD system.

M.
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All very true. My response to original question was to point out that you don't always need an OS labeled as a "server" to use it as a server, whether it be OSX, Windows, Linux, etc. In my case, I had dual USB iBook with a bad screen that I was able to get JBoss/Tomcat/MySQL setup and running under OSX ("client") in about 10 minutes; plus I have the benefit of having a built-in UPS. :D
 
Originally posted by azdude
No. While it will in all likelihood be technically possible (Apple's OSs seem to have no copy protection/keys), that's not how the license is sold. (i.e. it's shady, if not illegal).
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ya, but i dont care.
 
I'm just running 10.2 on my G4 and like everyone else I'm anxiously awaiting Panther... but don't you think that if apple implemented a feature where the release version of Panther couldnt be installed over a beta version that it would be unfair to beta testers? They're just not allowed to run panther once it's released?

And even still... it would be easy enough to install 10.2 over, and then 10.3 retail...

Sorry, but your story sounds flawed, and if it's not, then apple is stupid.

Originally posted by gopher
If it hoses your machine, don't go complaining about the Apple boards how it hosed your machine since it is YOUR fault you are using a downloaded version that has no guarantee it is the actual release version. It is time pirates learned to act responsibly. Backup all data on your hard drive to another so you don't have the pain of recovery if it does hose your machine. And hope the download you have doesn't act upon the firmware, because that would require a motherboard replacement if it did. You never know, Apple could combat piracy that way. Not only that, Apple did make an earlier build which said in the readme that the actual release version of Panther won't install over it. There is no guarantee the download you get will. The final builds may all have the same build number, so you won't be able to tell them apart if you do download it. You'll have to rely on the trustworthyness of the person you download it form.
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Originally posted by gopher
If it hoses your machine, don't go complaining about the Apple boards how it hosed your machine since it is YOUR fault you are using a downloaded version that has no guarantee it is the actual release version. It is time pirates learned to act responsibly. Backup all data on your hard drive to another so you don't have the pain of recovery if it does hose your machine. And hope the download you have doesn't act upon the firmware, because that would require a motherboard replacement if it did. You never know, Apple could combat piracy that way. Not only that, Apple did make an earlier build which said in the readme that the actual release version of Panther won't install over it. There is no guarantee the download you get will. The final builds may all have the same build number, so you won't be able to tell them apart if you do download it. You'll have to rely on the trustworthyness of the person you download it form.
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newbie...
 
I'm just running 10.2 on my G4 and like everyone else I'm anxiously awaiting Panther... but don't you think that if apple implemented a feature where the release version of Panther couldnt be installed over a beta version that it would be unfair to beta testers? They're just not allowed to run panther once it's released?

And even still... it would be easy enough to install 10.2 over, and then 10.3 retail...

Sorry, but your story sounds flawed, and if it's not, then apple is stupid.
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It is true, you won't be able to upgrade from the beta version, but I'm betting you'll be able to do an archive and install...
 
Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
dude. you don't see lines at gateway countries for the newest windows OS:p
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Yeah you do. Don't you remember all that news footage of people standing in line to buy WindowsXP? :rolleyes:

Yeah, I know it's been so long since Microsoft released a new OS we've all forgotten.

They were probably all saps who bought computers with ME installed and were desperate to get rid of it.
 
I prefer a clean install over upgrading anyday. Backing up osx to another HD is just mad simple. /Users/%username%/ and some /Applications is all ya need. Not hard at all...

Oh and you guys sure you want the first rev of the stuffed panther? Might wanna wait till the second release to make sure the stitching is secure... my god... people expect way to much for $129
 
They were probably all saps who bought computers with ME installed and were desperate to get rid of it.
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Definatly...
It was all ppl with ME installed... and the rest were kids thinking it was a new toy... darned preskool interface...
 
Oh... I didnt understand possibly... I could see how you couldnt upgrade (that makes some sense at least)... but it would be rediculous to implement a feature that wouldnt let you completely clear your disk and install a retail version of Panther...

Originally posted by Matrix9180
It is true, you won't be able to upgrade from the beta version, but I'm betting you'll be able to do an archive and install...
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I hope the education price doesn't go up. Jaguar is $69 for students, plus I renewed my .mac and took the $20 coupon for online Apple Store, so thats $49 for Panther! Will probably drive the 2 hours to my Apple Store and order there though, just so I don't miss the party.
 
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