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Is Now the Time to Upgrade Apple Devices Before Tariffs Lead to Price Increases?

Stuwil said:
I never said that people should run out & buy things right now
I think your getting confused buddy
What I said was the exact same as every economist that prices will go up as a consequence & what the Canadians have said about electricity is exactly what’s going to happen.
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Again, you are saying EVERY economist and that just isn’t true. You don’t have to be so triggered just because I disagree with you. I don’t know what’s going to happen and neither do you. So calling me “buddy” in an aggressive way is a little ridiculous.
 
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DMG35 said:
Again, you are saying EVERY economist and that just isn’t true. You don’t have to be so triggered just because I disagree with you. I don’t know what’s going to happen and neither do you. So calling me “buddy” in an aggressive way is a little ridiculous.
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Ok can you give me a name of any in support of these tariffs?
Well what we do know is exactly what Canada has just said that electricity will go up for every American by $100 extra a month as a consequence

We also know that when companies pay minimum wage & are told to increase it then prices go up as a consequence of it coming out of profits

Even Warren Buffett has said prices will go up but then what does he know about that
 
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Stuwil said:
Ok can you give me a name of any in support of these tariffs?
Well what we do know is exactly what Canada has just said that electricity will go up for every American by $100 extra a month as a consequence

We also know that when companies pay minimum wage & are told to increase it then prices go up as a consequence of it coming out of profits

Even Warren Buffett has said prices will go up but then what does he know about that
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Again, I’m not saying they won’t go up. They might. But I think going out and buying stuff because they “might” is dumb, which is the entire point of this thread which is titled “is now the time to upgrade (buy) an iPhone because prices might go up.”
 
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Stuwil said:
Yes that would be the case because it would only apply to America
But there is no chance in hell that if the raise the price in America then they won’t for the UK that’s not going to happen because the price is the exact same before taxes in the USA
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Raising the prices globally could limit the impact of tariffs in the US since the extra revenue outside the US would makeup the tariff expense. Maybe not 100%, but enough the make the increase less.
 
jlc1978 said:
Raising the prices globally could limit the impact of tariffs in the US since the extra revenue outside the US would makeup the tariff expense. Maybe not 100%, but enough the make the increase less.
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That is exactly what I’m saying if they put a $100 on every iPhone worldwide then it means US customers wouldn’t face that much of an increase
 
magicschoolbus said:
With all the losses in grandmas portfolio; she can come out of retirement and work at the factory!
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Now is the time for grandma to take very spare penny she has and buy stock. My IRA has dropped significantly but every dividend goes back into buying really cheap stock. When the market comes charging back (and it definitely will) grandma and I will have more than ever. It’s way too late to exit the market now. Stick it out. It won’t take long for you-know-who to back off and claim he made a great deal for us.
 
DMG35 said:
Again, I’m not saying they won’t go up. They might. But I think going out and buying stuff because they “might” is dumb, which is the entire point of this thread which is titled “is now the time to upgrade (buy) an iPhone because prices might go up.”
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If what is to be believed is correct then people might just upgrade rather than pay that extra cost or they might just look at their device & just hold onto it a bit longer especially if it’s still performing well
 
jlc1978 said:
Raising the prices globally could limit the impact of tariffs in the US since the extra revenue outside the US would makeup the tariff expense. Maybe not 100%, but enough the make the increase less.
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Stuwil said:
If what is to be believed is correct then people might just upgrade rather than pay that extra cost or they might just look at their device & just hold onto it a bit longer especially if it’s still performing well
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The question will be, will be the rest of the world be happy with a price increase to shoulder the burden of a trade war intiated unprovoked by the U.S., or will Apple loose market share because of such a move.

Nintendo (sure, it is a Japanese company) to not divide the tariffs up to soften the blow for americans but went ahead with the Switch 2 preorder in every other region than U.S. and is reevulating the prices. I do hope Apple goes with the same approach.
 
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I can always take out a second mortgage.
 

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I think there's quite a bit of wishful thinking in this thread around Apple increasing the price of all iPhones to offset the tariff increase on US iPhones. To some extent whether this happens will depend on what other phone manufacturers do. For example some android manufactures don't sell in the US market, Nothing being one example, so US tariffs won't have much of an impact (there will be macro economic factors like global recession but that will affect all sales). This will force other android manufacturers, such as Samsung who do sell in the US, to not increase non-US prices otherwise they will lose sales outside the US. In turn Apple will not be able to offset US tariffs on non-US phones otherwise they will lose sales and market share to android outside the US.

There is also anti-US feeling in a lot of countries, not just from the tariffs but things like Trump threatening to invade Canada and Greenland and Vance's comments on Europe in the Signal leaked chat. While I don't think Apple will end up as toxic as Tesla (it's not like Tim Cook is interfering in elections), Apple will be less popular as it is seen as a very American brand. Increasing prices for non-US sales to subside US sales will not help that perception or sales.
 
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DMG35 said:
Again, I’m not saying they won’t go up. They might. But I think going out and buying stuff because they “might” is dumb, which is the entire point of this thread which is titled “is now the time to upgrade (buy) an iPhone because prices might go up.”
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I think it's fair to say prices aren't coming down any time soon. So if you were planning a new phone anyway, then why not lock in at today's price?

The Alternative is to pay higher taxes in a few months. For what purpose? To fund this administration's incompetence? Nope.
 
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I think it's fair to say prices aren't coming down any time soon. So if you were planning a new phone anyway, then why not lock in at today's price?

The Alternative is to pay higher taxes in a few months. For what purpose? To fund this administration's incompetence? Nope.
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There’s a report today that Apple has already made plans to adjust to the tariffs without increasing prices. Everyone just needs to take a breath. Or go out and buy whatever you want, I don’t really care.
 
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DMG35 said:
There’s a report today that Apple has already made plans to adjust to the tariffs without increasing prices. Everyone just needs to take a breath. Or go out and buy whatever you want, I don’t really care.
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Got a link to the report?

I'd be surprised if Apple will just eat it. This isn't a 5% fluctuation in the price of a commodity.
 
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DMG35 said:
Again, you are saying EVERY economist and that just isn’t true. You don’t have to be so triggered just because I disagree with you. I don’t know what’s going to happen and neither do you
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High import tariffs will increase prices on imported products. That’s nit just an opinion but broad consensus among economists (unlike the short-term transitoriness of post-COVID stimulus-induced inflation).

Unless the importer absorbs them in full (highly unlikely given Apple’s track record) or can shift production (they can’t just move iPhone production to the U.S. in the short to mid-term).

Could Apple and/or the range of products they import be exempted? Maybe. But otherwise, price increases are a reasonable assumption (though some of the media-reported possible price figures are not).
 
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I think there's quite a bit of wishful thinking in this thread around Apple increasing the price of all iPhones to offset the tariff increase on US iPhones. To some extent whether this happens will depend on what other phone manufacturers do. For example some android manufactures don't sell in the US market, Nothing being one example, so US tariffs won't have much of an impact (there will be macro economic factors like global recession but that will affect all sales). This will force other android manufacturers, such as Samsung who do sell in the US, to not increase non-US prices otherwise they will lose sales outside the US. In turn Apple will not be able to offset US tariffs on non-US phones otherwise they will lose sales and market share to android outside the US.

There is also anti-US feeling in a lot of countries, not just from the tariffs but things like Trump threatening to invade Canada and Greenland and Vance's comments on Europe in the Signal leaked chat. While I don't think Apple will end up as toxic as Tesla (it's not like Tim Cook is interfering in elections), Apple will be less popular as it is seen as a very American brand. Increasing prices for non-US sales to subside US sales will not help that perception or sales.
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In many Non USA countries already iPhones are priced very high even after rationalisation of tariffs by the respective countries (example, India) and any further hike in prices will only be welcomed by the Android world! iPhones are getting popular in India recently and price hike will be a big blow for Apple and not for the consumers.
 
DMG35 said:
There’s a report today that Apple has already made plans to adjust to the tariffs without increasing prices. Everyone just needs to take a breath. Or go out and buy whatever you want, I don’t really care.
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That is not an "Apple plan", just speculation by Gurman on a few possible options.
 
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DMG35 said:
9to5mac.com

New report lays out potential plan for Apple to 'soften the blow' of imminent US tariffs - 9to5Mac

Last week, the Trump administration announced an extreme tariff plan on essentially every other nation in the world. This would...
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Thanks for the link. But that's just Gurman's thought experiment on what might be possible. The chips are still very much up in the air.

Thing is, the market is now primed to expect a huge hike. And if it happens it'll clearly not be Apple's fault. So why should Apple - or any impacted US company for that matter - take a hit which could damage their business?

If anything, this manufactured crisis is a great opportunity to point the finger at who's really to blame here, rile everyone up, and maybe get some sanity back in the WH?
 
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