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If the prices go insane in here in my country, there are better options available outside iOS. No need to stock up something just out of fear! It is not that we can’t live without iPhones or iPads, there are alternatives available for lot cheaper prices.
 
How automotive. "Better buy now before prices go up!"

I'll replace mine when it needs replacing, not because of market jitters.
Calling what the Trump government does a „market jitter“ is quite underestimating the severity of the situation, even without considering the iPhone or Apple.
 
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If the prices go insane in here in my country, there are better options available outside iOS. No need to stock up something just out of fear! It is not that we can’t live without iPhones or iPads, there are alternatives available for lot cheaper prices.
Much luck getting them to work with your Apple Watch and other apple devices.
I agree that we shouldn’t „stock up“ but you can expect either prices from all manufacturers to go up or quality to go down.
 
Will Apple spread the pain globally and increase prices outside of the U.S?
In theory, if this is a reciprocity tariff, then the other countries have already levied the tariffs on iPhones (in almost many cases) already, hence they do not need to levy additional tariffs. Main issue will be currency exchange value, if USD value goes down further, then again in theory iPhones would be sold cheaper than in USA. USA people can actually buy iPhones cheaper outside than in USA, if this is the case.
 
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Instead of repeating trite cliches why don’t you look at the real numbers of where the US ranks among world economies.
USA is on massive amount of debt far too long; it is holding itself good because of the USD and international trade done on USD. The moment alternatives start appearing and becoming the norm, USA Debt will flare up. I think Donal Trump trying to fix this by rebalancing the trade deficit and make USA more responsible and accountable for the world. But as usual, the start will be a big pain for the whiny Americans.
 
They will have to unless they think consumers will abide a ~30% increase in the price of their phone for no good reason other than Apple wants to continue building them in China.
Uhh wasn’t there a recent report claiming that a domestically produced iPhone would cost 130% more in the US? 30% seems a lot more reasonable.
 
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Apple could try absorbing costs... Apple could raise prices... Apple could hope for exception... The country is doomed. Orange man bad... I'm seeing every comment imaginable except for the one that somehow seems to elude the leftist brain: Build products in the USA - or in countries willing to trade equally
Equally? Trump is literally imposing 10% or (way) higher tariffs on countries where those countries have zero tariffs on American products?

Also, for comments that seem to elude everyone:
Maybe your country and its citizens should not consume more than they - their trade balance - can afford.

As someone with an M.B.A. myself, I'm not a typical corporate type, and agree it's time to make America self-sufficient again. Every country should be self-sufficient.
As someone with an MBA, I’m sure you’ve heard about the concept of comparative advantages.

As for countries being self-sufficient, do you expect every “smaller” country, say Sweden, Switzerland, Serbia or Sri Lanke to set up its own domestic semiconductor and smartphone manufacturing?
 
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If the prices go insane in here in my country, there are better options available outside iOS. No need to stock up something just out of fear! It is not that we can’t live without iPhones or iPads, there are alternatives available for lot cheaper prices.
You do realise *all* phones will be more expensive?
Trump declared war on every country that produces phones, and on the country that produces the chips that go in the phones.
Trumpists have f'ed around, and they're about to find out.
 
I wonder if Apple will rise prices (to mirror US prices as it normally does) in countries where there are no tariffs from China or the other countries (i.e.: the UK).
 
If the prices go insane in here in my country, there are better options available outside iOS. No need to stock up something just out of fear! It is not that we can’t live without iPhones or iPads, there are alternatives available for lot cheaper prices.
I love how trump voters don’t understand this. The world keeps turning, while the US makes ALL imports from ALL countries more expensive
 
Maybe it's time for Apple (and others in the US) to relocate or at least find a way to avoid tariffs by establishing its financial base elsewhere. Certainly for 4 years. Since production is mostly done elsewhere why would this not work for the benefit of consumers outside the US?
 
If the prices go insane in here in my country, there are better options available outside iOS. No need to stock up something just out of fear! It is not that we can’t live without iPhones or iPads, there are alternatives available for lot cheaper prices.
There are cheaper options her as well. Once I finally ditch my Mac and go Linux, my big, expensive phone will lose its appeal. Tough to give up the “walled garden”… especially in a world where someone with a $12,000 portable reader that looks like a Game Boy can pretty much steal your car with a special scanner that finds the same codes your key fob uses.
 
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Maybe it's time for Apple (and others in the US) to relocate or at least find a way to avoid tariffs by establishing its financial base elsewhere. Certainly for 4 years. Since production is mostly done elsewhere why would this not work for the benefit of consumers outside the US?
That was my point before.. especially since the responder on that thread said that Apple ships from Asia directly to Europe. They had an HQ in Ireland for tax reasons but the EU caught them. It certainly would help non-US countries.
 
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Maybe it's time for Apple (and others in the US) to relocate or at least find a way to avoid tariffs by establishing its financial base elsewhere. Certainly for 4 years. Since production is mostly done elsewhere why would this not work for the benefit of consumers outside the US?
Tariffs aren’t charged on the basis of country of incorporation.
They’re charged on the basis of country of origin (where it was made).
 
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They will have to unless they think consumers will abide a ~30% increase in the price of their phone for no good reason other than Apple wants to continue building them in China.
They have been publishing their customers in Europe, because they don’t agree with the laws here, showing how stupid the tariffs are and that it isn’t the companies that suffer, but the voters, would pass good into their current actions.
 
there is a difference between inflation and a tariff increase
With inflation that means it goes up & down meaning it fluctuates.
With a tariff increase that is set so for example a Canadian governor has just increased tariffs on electricity that they outsource to 3 Americans states and as a consequence of that Americans will be paying an extra $100 dollars a month because of it. This is going to happen as a consequence with every American company that use other countries for their products
Now either you accept that example then that’s up to you
Again, I don’t know that they’re wrong, and you don’t know that they’re right. It’s all just speculation. What I do know is that running out and buying a bunch of things because you think the prices might go up is asinine. Especially on something like phones.
 
They ship directly from Asia to Europe. Wishful thinking with the weakening $US products could even become cheaper when apple adjusts prices to the currency.

A weaker dollar means Apple gets more from overseas, since the get local currency that is converted to dollars. Of course, the smart thing is to keep the extra dollars and not lower prices.

I know MBAs aren't economics degrees, but dear god, do they entirely skip teaching you about specialisation and absolute/comparative advantage?
The problem is people think that the solution is bring back all the jobs because that’s what they’ve been told. The idea using comparative advantage in trade results in more goods is not understood nor a good sound bite that some jobs are better done elsewhere.

As for MBAs and economics, I guess that fepends on the school. My HR course was 10 weeks of labor economics, complete with supply and demand curves.
 
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Tariffs aren’t charge on the basis of country of incorporation.
They’re charged on the basis of country of origin (where it was made).
So if I live in the UK and Apple makes its stuff outside the US and, if it operated financially outside of the US, tariffs would be avoided?
 
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Again, I don’t know that they’re wrong, and you don’t know that they’re right. It’s all just speculation. What I do know is that running out and buying a bunch of things because you think the prices might go up is asinine. Especially on something like phones.
I never said that people should run out & buy things right now
I think your getting confused buddy
What I said was the exact same as every economist that prices will go up as a consequence & what the Canadians have said about electricity is exactly what’s going to happen.
 
So if I live in the UK and Apple makes its stuff outside the US and, if it operated financially outside of the US, tariffs would be avoided?
Yes that would be the case because it would only apply to America
But there is no chance in hell that if the raise the price in America then they won’t for the UK that’s not going to happen because the price is the exact same before taxes in the USA
 
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