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Educate us on how you know this please? It's a worthless sound bite.

The federal government pays how much to store and manually process retirement paperwork in an abandoned salt mine. If they converted that to a google form (or digitize it in whatever method makes sense, you get my point), they could save who knows how much money. Just one example of a way to streamline government and save tons of money without anyone knowing the difference (unless you work in that salt mine, I guess).
 
He's been in office less than 100 days. I think if his policies work it will indeed lead to a new era of American prosperity. But it will take much more than 100 days to know. I think it will work. Companies want American dollars, and with tariffs now on the table - the only way to realistically get them is to do business in America. That means more money for the USA. Cheap offshoring is no longer an option.
The issue is trust. Trump is unpredictable and capricious, and unpredictability kills investment incentives. And as long as offshoring is cheap enough it remains the more profitable option, even if it’s less profitable than before.
 
I don’t think iPhone manufacturing is coming to the U.S. and China might strike a deal well before iPhone 17, but it won’t happen overnight. Alternatively, Apple could ramp up production in India, should the admin make a deal with India first. However, is India ready? I don’t know.
 
No need to upgrade, by the time Apple gets Siri AI working the tariff war will have ended. Do you really want a half backed phone? Wait another year or so ….
Price impacts of tariffs extend beyond when they’re in effect. Apple signs contracts with suppliers. They might have an agreement that says “we’ll pay x amount per unit for this part through 2026”. And if they’re taking tariffs into account, that’s going to keep the cost of the iPhones high. Even if the tariffs are dropped.

Not to mention, extra inventory in their warehouses that they’ll pay a premium on, and will want to make a profit on.
 
We're so ****ed. As you said with the Switch, who knows what it'll end up costing with the new tariffs? It might actually be cheaper for my co-worker in Ireland to buy me something and bring it with him on a work trip rather than me buying something here in the US.
What do you mean "cheaper", importing it is the only way you can get it, Nintendo isn't selling it in USA.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c78j64dqj2qo.amp and you better hope it is region free.
 
China only works with American trade. The CCP collapses without our trade. Trump knows that. And most importantly the CCP knows that. CNN will not tell you that, however.

1. American should get real. Manufacturing is not coming back to United States, staff build in United States just aren't price competitive. How many of US worker will want to work with minimum wage and night shifts? Just look at your automotive union, strike after strike.

2. The word economy is much more different from pre-WW2. America use its currency as tool to keep its dominance and policy makers know full well that US manufacturing is just not competitive anymore.

3. This tariff will not last long. As far as I am aware, lots of shipments to US have already been halted. Even ships sailed half away have been notified to return. Just wait huge price increase in almost everything you need and probably empty store shelves. American propensity my a**.

4. Only 14% of Chinese export goes to United States. CCP can survive without US.

5. Trumps aim to China will ultimately fail. They can't really tariff everybody long enough, if there is crack, Chinese will take advantage. Lower tariff for Vietnam, Chinese factories goes to Vietnam. Thinking about things made in Vietnam, it is Chinese product imported to Vietnam and slap made in Vietnam label.

6. The only thing Trump does is isolate United States from rest of world economy and it will without doubt fail hard.

P.S. Before you celebrate, Stellantis just announced lay off of 900 employees from US powertrain and stamping facilities. I am sure more lay off will coming soon with the tariff on imported automotive.
 
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I don’t think iPhone manufacturing is coming to the U.S. and China might strike a deal well before iPhone 17, but it won’t happen overnight. Alternatively, Apple could ramp up production in India, should the admin make a deal with India first. However, is India ready? I don’t know.

To be honest, even with iPhone made in India. Majority of iPhone parts are still made in China and shipped to India.

The very idea of manufacturing coming to the US is fantasy dream. China, India, Vietnam can produce things with much less cost.
 
We're so ****ed. As you said with the Switch, who knows what it'll end up costing with the new tariffs? It might actually be cheaper for my co-worker in Ireland to buy me something and bring it with him on a work trip rather than me buying something here in the US.
Back in the day Europeans coming to my hometown of NYC would buy cameras and other electronics at a store like J&R (now closed) because it was cheaper. Now it could be the opposite with American tourists buying iPhones, iPads, Switch 2, etc. in Europe!
 
My M1 Air and M1 iMac were seeming ready to be upgraded over recent months, so I got the M4 equivalents of each. At the rate we're going I'll be bartering them for groceries before long. I hope congress collectively grows a pair and fixes this insane **** -- and not just for the sake of gadget prices.
 
I have mba m2
Pro max 15
Ipad mini 7
Ipad Air 5 m1
Macbook pro m3
Ultra watch 2
Airpods pro 2 usb

I think i am stocked for next few years well and i am not planning upgrade any sooner. So no Apple hardware buys after tariffs
 
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He's been in office less than 100 days. I think if his policies work it will indeed lead to a new era of American prosperity. But it will take much more than 100 days to know. I think it will work. Companies want American dollars, and with tariffs now on the table - the only way to realistically get them is to do business in America. That means more money for the USA. Cheap offshoring is no longer an option.

As far as the federal government yes more than 50% of it could go away tomorrow and nobody would ever know the difference unless they were a federal employee, or on the dole. Just don't listen to the CNN FUD and you'll be fine.

Name them.


Here you go. Setellantis laying of 900 US workers due to this stupid tariff. I am sure more to come. So much America is winning
 
To be honest, even with iPhone made in India. Majority of iPhone parts are still made in China and shipped to India.

The very idea of manufacturing coming to the US is fantasy dream. China, India, Vietnam can produce things with much less cost.
There's tariffs on every country, only thing to do is not sell in USA, Nintendo isn't selling the switch 2 in USA, maybe in 4years.
 
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