"Hey man, I liked Apple when they were 'underground'."
Apple has always been about getting as many people as possible to use their products in the long-term.
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"Hey man, I liked Apple when they were 'underground'."
Apple has always been about getting as many people as possible to use their products in the long-term.
Replacing a laptop is one thing. But when I heard apple was coming out with a tablet computer, and than putting the iPhone os on it. And the ipad having all the restrictions of the iPhone, that's another thing.
Don't get me wrong I love my iPhone, the user interface, even the restricted web browser, for a cell phone I love it. But like someone had said one of the great things about iPhone apps is that you are running them on a cell phone. Like I still marvel at the size of my iPhone and all it can do. And I can excuse some of the faults of the iPhone because it is a cell phone.
I am dissapointed in the ipad, because of what I thought it could have been.
Don't get me wrong I love my iPhone, the user interface, even the restricted web browser, for a cell phone I love it. But like someone had said one of the great things about iPhone apps is that you are running them on a cell phone. Like I still marvel at the size of my iPhone and all it can do. And I can excuse some of the faults of the iPhone because it is a cell phone.
I am dissapointed in the ipad, because of what I thought it could have been.
"Hey man, I liked Apple when they were 'underground'."
Apple has always been about getting as many people as possible to use their products in the long-term.
I kinda agree with you, and I don't find anything wrong with appealing to the masses. And there a company and should be able to make as much money as they can. But I also thought apple was about "thinking different" and innovation.
But that does not mean I have to like the direction they are going in.
What? it could've been another crappy Netbook? No thanks.
The iPad was designed to be an appliance that's supposed to just work and easy to use. unlike netbooks.
if the iPad doesn't suit your needs, you are FREE to use a Mac (or Windows/Linux/etc).
it's like people saying "oh i'm dissapointed at toasters! the toaster could've been a toaster+TV+dvd player+radio+smartphone."
Nobody expects a toaster to be that complex, but many people wanted a computer which supports multi-touch on a big screen that suits their needs so they are disappointed. After all, that's more or less what the rumors were all about.
There is a saying along the lines: Anyone can build a bridge that stands up. It takes an Engineer to build a bridge that just barely stands up.
That may be trite, but there is a point, quality engineer is often more about leaving things out, rather than just throwing in everything and the kitchen Sink.
Tablet PC have been built for several years with the "everything and the kitchen sink" marketing check-box design ethos and they have been failures. They usually end up as slow/heavy/expensive mediocre laptops with mediocre tacked on touch capability.
Apple instead is "thinking different", they actually made tough choices to deliver a Fast/light/inexpensive touch device. Making choices though always leave the door open for more complaints when someones pet marketing check-box isn't met, but in the end it may represent more solid design, delivering a better user experience (hard to quantify).
Perfect? Heck no, I would like an SD slot for one thing, but I realize that if you meet everyone's check-box list, you end up with a compromised Frankenstein device.
What would your idea of thinking different or innovation be? Slapping a touch screen on a desktop OS?
Actually that is not what the rumors were all about. Most of the rumors during the month or so leading up to the announcement pointed towards the iPhone OS. Plus none of the rumors were coming from Apple, they were mostly from folks who obviously had no idea what was going on. If people are disappointed, that is their own problem. Just because you want something doesn't mean you will get it. Folks need to get over it and move on and find something else to complain about.
My idea would be a hybrid os x tablet. It would run a version of os x built from the ground up, that was designed to run on a multitouch device. To be honest I didn't know about the tablet computer failures before I started reading about the ipad. What I was excited about was the tablet in general, like I liked the idea of it being a little more portable than a laptop, even the virtual keyboard I liked the fact that it would be all in one unit.
That is an assumption being made on your part, and not likely anything they did like that at all.
They likely were in a band in the first place to make money and get women, so they sold out from the beginning.
Because they may have done something different or evolved as an artist, they get labeled as selling out, which is stupid. It is something people who think they are too cool for school use to label musical groups they once liked and no longer do like.
Just say you don't like their later works. You unlikely know what their motivations were at any point in their career so stop guessing.
This is a very important point.
Apple's ability to bring many of these devices to market successfully has as much to do with what they left out as what they put in them.
Every marketer wants a big spec sheet with a bunch of check boxes to fill in, but that does not actually make a cohesive machine. Being greater then the sum of your parts is something to be proud of, and Apple has accomplished a couple of times now.
There is no doubt in my mind most of the things people think Apple should have done with the iPad they actually did try and test in some form and ended up rejecting, either for the short term or forever. You shouldn't add features and items to something just because you can kludge them in there, when if you wait and take your time to do it right, you will be much better off.
I have no doubt that more will get added to the iPad over time, as Apple changes their minds on somethings, finds different ways to implement other things, and cracks the right way to accomplish even other things. In the mean time they will still make a very solid and highly usable device, which at the end of the day is the most important.
Do I want an object I use for 3 month full of specs and then stuffed in my drawer, or do I want something like the original iPhone that still is an awesome tool today. It doesn't have all the features of the later version, but on its own it is still pretty remarkable.
This is what drives me crazy about things like multi-tasking. People act like apple couldn't add multitasking even if they wanted to.. which is not the case. I am sure they have done extensive testing on various methods of multi-tasking on iphones and iPads and will continue to do so. Clearly they have a high standard for what they want it to be though, and for what they want the user experience to be, and they are not willing to compromise that. I commend them for that belief because few companies have cajones these days to stand up to the marketplace and resist consumer pressure and not just rush features to market and not wait to do them right.
I haven't trawled through all of this thread but IMO (which isn't worth the dirt in my pocket) the reason why the iPad is somewhat underwhelming for me is that it's just on the same level as a netbook.
Jobs joked in his keynote that "netbooks aren't better at anything" and aside from the likes of iBook and the touchscreen adapted apps, all of this can be done better on a Mac/Macbook Pro or even an iPhone (not better than an iPad but still not so different that it warrants a purchase)
Having said that I think theres a market for it....albeit rather limited. My sister who isn't into technology at all loves it and I could see my mum using it for browsing the net and light app using.
This could turn into the new DS attracting lots of females and older people.....or not! I could be so so wrong and if I am please go easy on me!
Jobs joked in his keynote that "netbooks aren't better at anything" and aside from the likes of iBook and the touchscreen adapted apps, all of this can be done better on a Mac/Macbook Pro or even an iPhone (not better than an iPad but still not so different that it warrants a purchase)
Having said that I think theres a market for it....albeit rather limited. My sister who isn't into technology at all loves it and I could see my mum using it for browsing the net and light app using.
This could turn into the new DS attracting lots of females and older people.....or not! I could be so so wrong and if I am please go easy on me!
Well, I was thinking about buying one but not so much anymore... But I suppose the iPod and the iPhone were fails too when they first came out, so maybe the same thing will happen and it will turn out much better. Though you'd think that after those 2 major fails they would have learnt their lesson *sigh*.
This could turn into the new DS
Without a gamepad attachment as described below, I don't see how...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/danielmacdonald/2127089390/
Three requirements are must haves imho...
1. The peripheral should look very sleek, flush with the phone and use the same black plastic found in the front of all iphones. iPhone owners care greatly about how thier device looks.
2. The peripheral must have dual analog sticks/nubs. Imagine the PSP's analog nub, but on both sides. Portable gamers have been clamoring for this feature forever now, so it's about time they get it. I can't overstress how important it is the the iPhone's gaming pad has DUAL ANALOG NUBS (and shoulder trigger buttons).
3. The peripheral must have two shoulder buttons and a solid D-Pad akin to the PSP/PS3's D-Pad to enable fighting games.
Do these things and the peripheral will be a big hit.
Also the smaller the add on, the better. It should be as small as humanly possible. And it should have a rectangular design with curved edges identical to the iphone.
I waited on a Touch until version 2. glad I did. having an ipod without a volume control (hardware) was an oversight on version one, that got corrected on version 2, along with a speaker, weak as it is.
oh, one thing I won't complain about on the iPad is if it doesn't have stereo speakers.
(I'm deaf in one ear, thanks to surgery a few years back for an acoustic neuroma).
To me the biggest hope which hasn't been fulfilled it's how the iPad doesn't seem to be able to act as a Wacom Cintiq - drawing pad.
I think that would have been absolutely terrific at so many levels!
But perhaps it might become possible in the future.
I think that would have been absolutely terrific at so many levels!
But perhaps it might become possible in the future.
Yes, terrific for those that wanted it, but it would have been too expensive and would have targeted a small niche market. Maybe in the future, as you say.
You mean have the iPad act as a peripheral device for a computer instead a stand-alone?
I'm sure he meant that it would be a tablet computer with the functionality of a Cintiq (but I'm guessing you knew that too, and were just being obstinate
).
Here's a device that totally kicks the ipad's butt. You'll never here anything about it because it doesn't have a huge event or Jobs to show it off and sales will be minimal.
http://iaudiophile.net/
http://iaudiophile.net/
Are you a professional comedian?
Here are the full specs of this "iPad butt-kicker"
http://www.pocketables.net/2010/01/cowon-w2-mid-prices-and-full-specs-revealed.html