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You say the bolded like it's a bad thing. It has the same RAM and CPU as the 11 Pro's (?). The rest of what you wrote...well, that's just your opinion. There's nothing you said that even moved the needle as to how I think the 11 has more value to me.

As I said, to you it doesn't but to tech junkies like myself I do not see the value of it being premium.

It cost more to curve OLED this alone is the $300 price tag and it should be more
You get a fast charger in the box or you could go buy a cheap one for the 11
800 nits max brightness 1200 for HDR content
Dolby Vision
HDR10
better LTE speeds and call receptions
stainless steel and matte back
better battery
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I spent the entire weekend on the 11 in direct sunlight at my sons baseball games. The screen was bright and wonderful. And so were the cameras. For me the 11 is an unbeatable value.
I would be better off paying that money to s10 plus or one plus at that price. You would get better value for you money then
 
The price difference doesn’t matter. Everyone can get what they want or what they can afford etc.

There are 3 choices for the 11. Pick one and if you’re satisfied with it keep it moving.

To me it’s not about what’s better it’s about what you want. I wanted the Pro Max because I wanted The largest display and Midnight Green the third camera is just what it comes with.

My friend she has a 11 and the photos look great the display looks great but she doesn’t want a large display and she wanted Red so she picked the features she wanted just like I did and everyone is happy.
 
The price difference doesn’t matter. Everyone can get what they want or what they can afford etc.

There are 3 choices for the 11. Pick one and if you’re satisfied with it keep it moving.

To me it’s not about what’s better it’s about what you want. I wanted the Pro Max because I wanted The largest display and Midnight Green the third camera is just what it comes with.

My friend she has a 11 and the photos look great the display looks great but she doesn’t want a large display and she wanted Red so she picked the features she wanted just like I did and everyone is happy.

I do not know why people are trying to justify the purchase of the iPhone 11 everywhere they go. Some people are paying to go pro so let them.
 
The Pro is better in every way, it cost $300-$400 more.. Let’s get over it!

Display is way better!

build quality better!

material is better It is steel!

1124P or 1242P vs only 828p.

2x optical zoom, without loss in picture quality.

3.38 million pixels!!! Vs only 1.48million

more water proof

Solid black blacks!!!

Matte glass back that doesn’t micro scratch the minute you use it is a nice touch too.

stupid big battery size.

No one is arguing if the Pro is a better phone than the 11 chief. Of course it is. What we're discussing is if it's worth the $300 difference to get the features you just listed.

The 11 isn't any of those you listed but it is just as capable of what most the Pro's can do.
 
No one is arguing if the Pro is a better phone than the 11 chief. Of course it is. What we're discussing is if it's worth the $300 difference to get the features you just listed.

The 11 isn't any of those you listed but it is just as capable of what most the Pro's can do.

We are basically paying for our OLED screen which is worth the $300 itself
the battery
fast charger
stainless steel
matte back and more
 
Depends on where you're coming from. For me, spending the money from an iPhone 8 Plus to the iPhone 11 is worth it and I stand to gain a lot already. Another $300 to make a bigger jump all the way to the Pro? Nah, I'll save that $300 for when iPhone 13 or iPhone 14 comes out instead.

This is exactly where I am . . I did buy an 11 Pro Max but ended up returning it for an 11 and with the iPhone 8 plus trade in, the cost was minimal and the impact huge. 11 Pro Max is a great phone but for me coming from the 8 plus the 500 difference in the 11 was too much.
 
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For some people, an extra $300 is nothing. For others, it really matters. There is no objective way to assign a monetary value to each feature. 'Worth it' will vary from person to person. I strongly prefer the max size, so it was an easy choice for me.
 
For some people, an extra $300 is nothing. For others, it really matters. There is no objective way to assign a monetary value to each feature. 'Worth it' will vary from person to person. I strongly prefer the max size, so it was an easy choice for me.
One website. Can't even just happen to stumble into another one if they're everywhere? No?

You got me. We wasted $700 on the wrong iphone.

I didn't say you wasted it because you got what you wanted.For me, it would have been a waste. I would of went XS
 
I didn't say you wasted it because you got what you wanted.For me, it would have been a waste. I would of went XS

It would have been a waste for me, if I went XS.

XS has an older CPU, no Ultra wide angle camera, no night mode, no 12mp front camera that can shoot 4K.

Again, different people want or need different things in their phones.
 
It would have been a waste for me, if I went XS.

XS has an older CPU, no Ultra wide angle camera, no night mode, no 12mp front camera that can shoot 4K.

Again, different people want or need different things in their phones.

so you justified your purchase so be happy with the 11 but for $700 i want OLED. 1080p the least for my screen. I never used an iPhone until they had 1080p. Coming from android, it was hard for me to transition to a 720p or 828p. Screen is everything in a phone especially when coming from high end android phones
 
Keep in mind, you can get an 11 with 128gb, but with the Pro you have to make the jump to 256 or stay with the gimped 64.

The same issue can be said about the iPhone 11. If you utilize more than 256GB a iPhone 11 will not work.
 
In my opinion, absolutely not. This is not to discredit the 11 pro in any way shape or form cause it’s a solid phone obviously, but my girlfriend has it and I have the 11. I have done a lot of comparisons, mainly when it comes to the display technology. I find the iPhone 11 to be brighter even though it isn’t on paper. To be fair she finds her 11 pro to be brighter. Also I played the same nature video on both devices at 1080p 60fps, hers had it with hdr as well. Honest to God, there’s barely any difference TO ME. She didn’t notice much of a difference either. Even with the colors they both were vibrant, yes the amoled was a bit more vibrant but you really have to look for it. Then I tried dark mode on both devices and yeah the oled shines there no questions, however the 11 was decent. But that is where you can definitely notice the difference. Lastly, I checked the viewing angles and the Oled was better as well but nobody looks at their phones at an angle like that. Again that isn’t to take away from the 11 pro cause that’s definitely A plus but no big deal. With all that being said, I really do not see a $300 difference between these 2 phones. I couldn’t care less about a telephoto lens and battery life is amazing on the 11 even though it’s better on the 11 pro. As long as you can make it through a day without any issues I think that’s what matters. What are your thoughts? Do you notice a big difference between both displays and if yes, does that warrant the $300 extra in your opinion? Lets discuss it :)
I like the pro size better. I was going with the original 11 until saw the phone at the store.
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It depends what your preference is. For me the Pro's are a rip off because the display and one more camera is not worth it. I am sure that you will loose more money with you 11 Pro Max than myself with the 11.....

size matter to some people.
 
I like the pro size better. I was going with the original 11 until saw the phone at the store.
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size matter to some people.

I wanted the XR and the iPhone 11 but that screen was a deal breaker for me. If it was a 1080p HDR 10 I would pay the $749 instead of $699
 
If you have a 7 plus or 8 plus, I wouldn't upgrade to the iphone 11 because all you get is ultra wide and better front camera. 7 and 8 plus has a 1080p screen lol. 8 plus is $599 for 128gb brand new from apple
 
The iPhone XS is still a competitive phone. The A12 is 7nm just like the A13 is 7nm. It looks like the A13 is really a A12+ that is clocked faster at 2.66Ghz.

If you are not concerned with the 4K front camera, or night mode. The XS is still a top of the line phone for around $700.

iPhone 11 vs XS or XS Max? That is a tough decision.
 
If you have a 7 plus or 8 plus, I wouldn't upgrade to the iphone 11 because all you get is ultra wide and better front camera. 7 and 8 plus has a 1080p screen lol. 8 plus is $599 for 128gb brand new from apple

You really should stop spreading misinformation and you know this statement is BS. The 11 has the A13 chip, 4GB of RAM (same as the 11 pro). Better water resistance rating, better glass front and back, better battery, can you do night mode with a 7 or 8 plus?
 
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No way, I got a Pro(non Max) thinking I couldn't go back to LCD after having OLED the past 2 years and I can honestly say the LCD on the 11 is easier on my eyes then the OLED panel. I also find the 11 to be the perfect size for me as the last MAX I had was annoying to use one handed due to it's increased display.
 
You really should stop spreading misinformation and you know this statement is BS. The 11 has the A13 chip, 4GB of RAM (same as the 11 pro). Better water resistance rating, better glass front and back, better battery, can you do night mode with a 7 or 8 plus?

I don't give a **** about night mode to be honest and the cpu still fast on those devices so what am I worrying about
 
I don't give a **** about night mode to be honest and the cpu still fast on those devices so what am I worrying about

Just because you don't give a *** about something doesn't make your statement true. I called you out on your BS and you're trying to backtrack with that excuse.
 
Just because you don't give a *** about something doesn't make your statement true. I called you out on your BS and you're trying to backtrack with that excuse.

What was the ********? You still trying to justify your purchase. The 8 plus is a better buy in my opinion. I do not care how water proof a phone is, no normal person going swimming with it, average consumer don't even know nothing about a cpu but I am sure they know the LCD screen will be different when compared to the 11 and the 8 plus
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What was the ********? You still trying to justify your purchase. The 8 plus is a better buy in my opinion. I do not care how water proof a phone is, no normal person going swimming with it, average consumer don't even know nothing about a cpu but I am sure they know the LCD screen will be different when compared to the 11 and the 8 plus

I don't have to justify anything. You stated an inaccuracy and I pointed it out. I see you keep making excuses for it.
 
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