Performance wise it's near the top of the food chain. I disagree with your analogy vis-a-via the 5 vs 6. The post below yours is spot on. The feature set of IOS is right on par with the completition. It's just a different interface.
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Is the Iphone 6 really "2012 technology"?
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Performance wise it's near the top of the food chain. I disagree with your analogy vis-a-via the 5 vs 6. The post below yours is spot on. The feature set of IOS is right on par with the completition. It's just a different interface.
Probably because the Nexus 6 wasn't out at the time the graphic was made. Not much of a big deal though... you could slap the Nexus 6 in there and make much of the same arguments.
You mean like this whole thread is quickly turning into?
Everyone has an opinion and an agenda, about bezels and all kinds of other things. The point is, anyone can pick on X platform. If all you're going by is a bunch of stacked facts on a graphic, then you're bound to make a dumb argument and a dumb decision.
Only an Apple fanboy could turn a clear hardware advantage into a con. Wireless charging. I don't care if you want to use it or not - but having the option to use it is a clear advantage.
From what I've seen, this is usually leveled by people who think specs are all that matter. These are the people who will complain that you still have four round tires on your car instead of hover technology.
Specs are only part of the story. You want a device that's in the ballpark of your competitors. But look at how Nintendo won at least the first half of the previous generation console war with a non-HD system. It sure did get old too quickly for me with lack of third party titles -- mainly sports games that didn't stink -- but it grew the console market.
Smartphones are in no way near as contrasting. About everybody has big screens with awesome resolutions and powerful guts. It basically boils down to a few feature such as battery life, fingerprint scanner, expansion ports, and the plethora of software differences.
I know two people who recently switched to Android-based phones in part because of the SD card slots. I don't know the experience with those, but that means you have to manage your data based on what you want running fast and are really fooling yourself as to how much storage you have. It's probably good for photos, but who's going to load big apps on those things?
I also still get amazed at people that quarrel over $100 on the price of a smartphone. You pay a couple thousand bucks for your smartphone service over a span of two years. If $100 is all that separates you between a phone you like and a phone you really like, come on. I use my iPhone way too often to ever go stupid like I did a few years ago with a 16 GB model. That limited the product too much for me over the next two years.
So back to the original question, it's a ridiculous statement. Yes, Samsung had bigger phones for a couple of years. Doesn't affect purchases now. The processors are all in the same ballpark, and I don't think there's any game-changing RAM differences. Everybody is on LTE chips faster than your pripovider will ever get you. So, basically, it's new tech.
Specs are only part of the story. You want a device that's in the ballpark of your competitors. But look at how Nintendo won at least the first half of the previous generation console war with a non-HD system. It sure did get old too quickly for me with lack of third party titles -- mainly sports games that didn't stink -- but it grew the console market.
Smartphones are in no way near as contrasting. About everybody has big screens with awesome resolutions and powerful guts. It basically boils down to a few feature such as battery life, fingerprint scanner, expansion ports, and the plethora of software differences.
I know two people who recently switched to Android-based phones in part because of the SD card slots. I don't know the experience with those, but that means you have to manage your data based on what you want running fast and are really fooling yourself as to how much storage you have. It's probably good for photos, but who's going to load big apps on those things?
I also still get amazed at people that quarrel over $100 on the price of a smartphone. You pay a couple thousand bucks for your smartphone service over a span of two years. If $100 is all that separates you between a phone you like and a phone you really like, come on. I use my iPhone way too often to ever go stupid like I did a few years ago with a 16 GB model. That limited the product too much for me over the next two years.
So back to the original question, it's a ridiculous statement. Yes, Samsung had bigger phones for a couple of years. Doesn't affect purchases now. The processors are all in the same ballpark, and I don't think there's any game-changing RAM differences. Everybody is on LTE chips faster than your pripovider will ever get you. So, basically, it's new tech.
Funny thing about that is there's actually 1080P, 60FPS Wii U games. XD The joke goes there's more 1080p 60fps wii u games than there are xbox 360 or ps4 games at 1080p/60fps.
Specs only tell part of the story
The 6+ has a gorgeous 1080p screen. It's got an amazing fingerprint reader, which in the past 5 days I have used it has worked flawlessly. Apple being the hardware and software creator, ensures that the specs work together beautifully. I noticed something similar with Windows Phone 8.1, they didn't need 2 or 3 gb of ram because it operated so smoothly paired together. The one remark some reviewers gave was that they had a hard time telling the difference between 2gb and 1gb 8.1 phones. Perhaps we might see something similar when Apple does increase the ram inside.
The Camera is still one of the best around and it's only 8 mgpxls. So I guess as long as Apple makes some of the best features around, then specs be damned. Sure they could try to throw in a 21 mgpxl camera, 1440p screen, 3 gbs of ram but would they be as good as if Apple focused on trying to make things right rather than right now? That would be the question.
The 6+ has a gorgeous 1080p screen. It's got an amazing fingerprint reader, which in the past 5 days I have used it has worked flawlessly. Apple being the hardware and software creator, ensures that the specs work together beautifully. I noticed something similar with Windows Phone 8.1, they didn't need 2 or 3 gb of ram because it operated so smoothly paired together. The one remark some reviewers gave was that they had a hard time telling the difference between 2gb and 1gb 8.1 phones. Perhaps we might see something similar when Apple does increase the ram inside.
The Camera is still one of the best around and it's only 8 mgpxls. So I guess as long as Apple makes some of the best features around, then specs be damned. Sure they could try to throw in a 21 mgpxl camera, 1440p screen, 3 gbs of ram but would they be as good as if Apple focused on trying to make things right rather than right now? That would be the question.
Most of it was 2013 Apple tech. Similar to the 5S. With 64-bit CPUs.
In the meantime, Samsung is just now rolling out 64-bit phablets. While their volume phones are still 32-bits. Are they going to say "welcome to 2013" to Samsung? Or, "welcome to 2006"?
The problem, of course, comes when people try to lump every hardware feature available into one mythical Android superphone. How many phones support wireless charging? Opting for such a phone which does may mean giving up some other feature like a 2k display or a better camera.
As it stands now, there are tons of different Android phone models in the market today, each with its own features and drawbacks. You want to compare, compare the entire phone, not pluck out individual features and go "aha, the iPhone doesn't have this".
It would be terrible if they do as photos files would take up 3 times as much space, and yet to display them on any screen those photos would have to be significantly resized. Plus adding more pixel to such a small sensor would degrade the image quality for no good reason. The current 8 mgpxl has twice many pixels than a 4K
display. You can print an 8x10 image from a good 8 mgpxl file. The only reason you would want more pixels is for cropping, but the aforementioned drawbacks are so bad that it's a terrible compromise to make. It's like carrying a sledge hammer on a backpacking trip so you can easily hammer in tent stakes in harder ground.
The short answer is 'no its not 2012 technology'.
That claim is made by the ill informed usually who take a few specs off a sheet and apply it to something that came out back then. They ignore performance and the fact Apple has produced something that often outperforms phones bragging much higher specs on paper. Why are some phone's so over spec'ed you have to ask? Could it be because they need to be to run the same as an iPhone? Innovation comes in many forms and packing a data sheet full of big numbers may satisfy some less savvy consumers, but its user experience and performance that get the job done IMHO.
Only a fanboy with an agenda would start their rebuttal with"Only an Apple fanboy..." Especially without reading the post directly above yours.
Yes.
But think of it as a car. Would you rather have a BMW or a Kia with the same technology? In this case, BMW came out after the Kia.
But think of it as a car. Would you rather have a BMW or a Kia with the same technology? In this case, BMW came out after the Kia.
iOS needs less "pure" power for it to function properly, much like Windows Phone. Why does android need so powerfull CPU's and so much ram i have no idea. Even with all that specs, every android phone will start lagging badly after a year of use... I personally never understood people that get a "hard on" for the best specs possible in every new phone.
That's like saying: "to a fandroids specs are the only things that matter".
I could care less about wireless charging to many limitations; why clutter the phone up with hardware I really don't want. Having the option to not have something you don't want in exchange for something you do, is important as well.
Well said. I'm guilty of this admittedly. When I'm in the market for a new phone (which I am now) I look at what all these phones have to offer and compare them. I've been with android for 4 years and have had HTC, Moto, and Samsung. The last iPhone I had was the 4s.
So I'm going down my list of what I want: 5-5.5" screen, stock android or close to it, fast(er) updates, a really smooth experience, good battery life, a good camera (I have active children who are getting into sports), aluminum frame that looks good, and a well rounded media device for web browsing and videos.
So my phone would have to be a mix of a Nexus 6, Moto X or Droid Turbo, Galaxy Note 4, and HTC M8.
However, right now everything I want is in the iPhone 6 plus. Unfortunately iOS 8 leaves a little bit to be desired but I'm willing to take the chance because I feel it meets most of my needs at the moment. There are many compromises with Android and as great as the Note 4 is, Samsung's software absolutely kills the experience. Give me the Note 4 with stock android or Motorola software and its an absolute winner.
What are you basing this on?
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That's like saying: "to a fandroids specs are the only things that matter".
I could care less about wireless charging to many limitations; why clutter the phone up with hardware I really don't want. Having the option to not have something you don't want in exchange for something you do, is important as well.
Cluttering hardware?
My LG G3 was able to wirelessly charge before I sold it. You know what you need to do to a phone to be able to do that? Install a sticker underneath the back plate. Or change the backplate to one that has the sticker already installed.
There's not a lot of clutter to speak of.
I don't understand why some of these posts have to be in the vernacular of Apple vs Android fanboys. Each phone has their prospective strengths. Apple has a huge emphasis on the end-user experience, which makes their phone great to use. Android started slow on that front, but has made leaps and strides to bring it basically parallel to the iPhone.
There are quite a few features on Android that are super-convenient (Knock-On/Off is still something I wish the iPhone would pick up in the future, as it's much more convenient for checking your phone without actually needing to pick it up.), and it's definitely beat iOS to the punch on more than a few occasions (Notification center, responding to calls with texts, App-OS integration).
There's really no bad competitor on the market today unless you're that person who buys the cheap models of phones. Flagships generally have minimal issues.
Really? I own a Wii U but didn't even know that it did 1080p. I get a good chuckle out of every IGN posting comparing screenshots of various uber-gamer games like Call of Duty on the Sony and Microsoft consoles. There's not a hill of beans difference in any of them unless you get out your hand lens and start looking closely.
I think I got to my point of basically the absolute latest hardware not being necessary for a great product. Apple waited on LTE because of battery life. Had it gone with LTE on the 4S, you're looking at either less battery life or a thicker phone. I don't think a lot of people appreciate the trade-offs that go into making these devices. You can obviously pair a lot of hardware together, but at some point you hit a trade-off between cost, size, etc. When building my own PCs, I never bought THE latest processor because it was ridiculously expensive. Go down about four models in speed and it was quite affordable and still way faster than what I had.
I hate the iPhone 6 FWIW, just check my posts. I do not feel it is 2012 hardware though. I say that because 64-bit processors in phones are 2014 hardware. If the iPhone 6 didn't have the 64-bit processor, then yes, I'd say it could fit into 2012, quite well.
That's like saying: "to a fandroids specs are the only things that matter".
I could care less about wireless charging to many limitations; why clutter the phone up with hardware I really don't want. Having the option to not have something you don't want in exchange for something you do, is important as well.
That's fine. But don't be a hypocrite and leave out things that the iPhone has but you don't use. Unless you are telling me that you are using every single hardware feature, and every single byte available for storage.
That's a fairly snarky remark.
You mean like the headphone jack? Had the phone for a year, never plugged anything into the headphone jack...don't even know if it works.
The iphone may not have as many external interfaces as some android phones, but the cpu/memory/os combo beats the pants off the most of them.
I do not have the problem with the iPhone spec (perhaps the exception would be ram), but I just cant stand how ugly the phone is. the sticking camera lens, the bands and the bezels. in my opinion, every single iPhone looks better than 6/6+ in that regards - yes, I know, iPhone is thin, but because it is so ugly on the back, it pretty much requires a case to not only hide the bands but also protruding camera lens.
I am happy to use my iPhone 5s without a case, cause I love how the phone looks and the design is something to brag about. I cant say the same about iPhone 6/6+. Each time I look at iPhone 6/6+ it reminds me of some cheap knock off junk phone.
I am happy to use my iPhone 5s without a case, cause I love how the phone looks and the design is something to brag about. I cant say the same about iPhone 6/6+. Each time I look at iPhone 6/6+ it reminds me of some cheap knock off junk phone.
Having more non-invasive hardware options should never be a con:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-...TgY/Qs1kEAmnlxM/w1096-h822-no/Apple+Reply.tif
Idiot comparison creator is an idiot.
6.9 inches? How is the NFC dumb on the Nexus 5? Wireless charging a con? So many of the pros listed for the iPhone are useless, and they left out the pros of the Nexus.
The biggest thing they left out is that the Nexus 5 is over a year old, and cost half the price.
That was an example, wireless charging would never sway a phone purchase decision for me. As such that it isn't on the hardware means less stuff in the phone itself. Nfc or micro sd aren't on my radar either; which is why I haven't jumped on the iphone 6 or other android.
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Right, the cost is a pro, if you want a nexus 5.
